Darren should have a "bulk edit" ready soon which will allow us to update all heights, weights and speeds after the combine information is available. This bulk edit will allow us to go in BY CONFERENCE and we can make all the changes to all of the PPs or PPPs in our respective conferences on one page. This will be far easier for us than cycling though the current PP or PPP Edit function and doing them one at a time.

Please check here for that information.

Darren,

Can you post your progress on the bulk edit here, and let me know if I've left out any operational details of this new function that the guys all should know about?

TIA....

As official reports have come in on measureables I have been updating the players profiles so although numbers haven't been posted here yet lots of numbers have been added to the database and I mean a lot.

Good work Andrew,

Adam should have quite a bit of stuff for us soon, and I'm taping all the NFL Total Access Combine coverage, so I'll also be throwing in some solid data.

I dont understand why it is so difficult to find out these official times....

Ive been watching the combine coverage and NFL Network's unofficial reported times are never correct... Then, all they show is the top 5's.... There is no source on the internet or TV that shows the times for every prospect... Im beginning to think that there isnt an "official" time, and that scouts just time them for themselves....

Jerome Mathis was timed "unofficially" at 4.33 and 4.31...and yet on NFL.com there is an article stating that he really ran in the 4.25 range, the fastest in combine history....

Does anyone know where Airese Currie ran? Or if he even did at all?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/8235750

Gil Brandt reported that Mathis' time was between 4.25-4.29...

Thanks for those numbers....

Yeah, its a mystery to me why NFL.com cant just release all the official results, and instead we have to go on a scavenger hunt to find them....I wanted to add speeds for some of my PPs, but its so difficult to find the data...

Any body have the officials for the LBs?

LBs did not get much coverage on ESPN. Rob, I suspect NFL.com will keep publishing those gradually over time, so we should probably use those for our final updates. Can you keep making threads like this for each position as they become available to you?

Awesome Rob...Make this a sticky thread, K?

Down at the bottom of each thread you have "moderation options"...I'll get it...that makes it a thread that is permanently "stuck" to the top of the forum.

Wow. Thanks much, Rob. I dunno where you're getting all this from, but it's been a big help. Quick question...if you don't have a number for a particular agility test, is it simply because they didn't participate?? I would think so, since everything else on these lists seems to be right on the money.

Stanford Routt, Baby!!!!

Source: ESPN.com- Todd McShay, Scouts, Inc.

"Justin Miller wasn't quite as fast as expected, but he solidified himself as a late-first-round prospect with his 4.44 speed, as did Carlos Rogers with a strong showing of 4.48. The top two cornerbacks in this year's class -- Antrel Rolle and Adam Jones -- both elected not to run or work out. Rolle left the combine early to get back to Miami in preparation for his pro-timing workout Thursday. The only other cornerbacks who opted not to run were Bryant McFadden (own choice) and Corey Webster (turf toe)."

Cornerbacks
Prospect, School Ht. Wt. Bench 40
Ronald Bartell Jr., Howard 6012 211 4.37
Brandon Browner, Oregon State 6034 221 13 4.60
Nick Collins, Bethune-Cookman 5111 206 4.39
Markus Curry, Michigan 5107 181 4.63
Travis Daniels, LSU 6005 194 4.59
Abraham Elimimian, Hawaii 5095 190 4.68
Dustin Fox, Ohio State 5107 191 7 4.49
Domonique Foxworth, Maryland 5111 184 4.40
Eric Green, Virginia Tech 5113 198 4.55
Kelvin Hayden, Illinois 5103 197 17 4.48
Ellis Hobbs, Iowa State 5090 192 4.50
Alphonso Hodge, Miami (Ohio) 5106 203 4.47
Daven Holly, Cincinnati 5103 192 15 4.41
Marlin Jackson, Michigan 6005 198 4.59
Derrick Johnson, Washington 5107 197 4.47
Adam Jones, West Virginia 5094 187
Eric King, Wake Forest 5084 189 12 4.50
Bryant McFadden, Florida State 5116 193
Chris McKenzie, Arizona State 5084 185 4.37
Justin Miller, Clemson 5096 201 4.44
Karl Paymah, Washington State 6000 204 28 4.31
Antonio Perkins, Oklahoma 5106 190 4.47
Lamont Reid, North Carolina 5112 195 15 4.53
Carlos Rogers, Auburn 6003 196 4.48
Antrel Rolle, Miami 6001 201 15
Stanford Routt, Houston 6013 193 4.36
Scott Starks, Wisconsin 5084 172 13 4.41
Fabian Washington, Nebraska 5104 188 18 4.25
Corey Webster, LSU 6001 199 9
Aric Williams, Oregon State 5114 187 8 4.62
Cedrick Williams, Kansas State 5096 168 13 4.51
Darrent Williams, Oklahoma State 5085 176 16 4.29
Stanley Wilson, Stanford 5116 185 14 4.40
Jerron Wishom, Louisiana Tech 5116 193 18 4.55

This is an excerpt from ESPN insider's coverage of all the combine results... I will use ESPN's results for my own projects and records because I have easy access to it....The reason why I am pointing it out to everyone else is that it

A) gives insight into Justin Miller's performance, which is hard to find because the NFL Network did not televise the combine while his group was working out...

and

B) shows the discrepancies about these 40 times. There are so many watches that it is really hard to change a view about a guy that much unless the time was completely horrible...NFL.com reported that Carlos Rogers ran a 4.31. ESPN is saying that it was actually a 4.48? What? And there is no trend- ESPN's times are not slower then the rest... for example: Derrick Johnson is listed as running a 4.56 by ESPN but was said to run a 4.65 by the NFL Network...Darryl Blackstock ran a 4.66 according to ESPN but was said to run a 4.7ish by other sources.... When all is said and done, I really don't think we should put too much stock into how fast the times were, because in reality, we really don't know and never actually will. The NFL loves speed, but "poor" 40 times did not hurt guys like Shawn Andrews, Kevin Jones, and Michael Clayton in the draft last year, and Jones and Clayton ended up being two of the most productive rookies in the NFL.

Stanford is a lot bigger and has been more productive overall--regardless of stats...Still, they are both on the new preliminary Top 100.

More Officials for LBs:Liam Ezekiel, ILB, Northeastern 6001 249 4.79
Alfred Fincher, ILB, Connecticut 6013 238 4.67
Mike Goolsby, ILB, Notre Dame 6030 249 4.87
Boomer Grigsby, ILB, Illinois State 5116 249 4.67
Marcus Lawrence, ILB, South Carolina 6021 243 4.64
Robert McCune, ILB, Louisville 6000 245 34 4.50
Lance Mitchell, ILB, Oklahoma 6021 247 4.81
Kirk Morrison, ILB, San Diego State 6010 235 25
Martin Patterson, ILB, Texas Christian 6014 243 5.00
Jonathan Pollard, ILB, Oregon State 6010 247 4.67
Adam Seward, ILB, UNLV 6022 248 33 4.62
Lofa Tatupu, ILB, USC 5117 238 23 4.79
Odell Thurman, ILB, Georgia 6001 233 25 4.62
Jordan Beck, OLB, Cal Poly State 4.61
Darryl Blackstock, OLB, Virginia 6025 247 4.66
Michael Boley, OLB, S. Mississippi 6026 236 4.63
Kevin Burnett, OLB, Tennessee 6027 239
Ryan Claridge, OLB, UNLV 6020 254
Roger Cooper, OLB, Montana State 6023 239 4.69
Channing Crowder, OLB, Florida 6022 252
Clifford Dukes, OLB, Michigan State 6034 268 28 4.97
Jamar Enzor, OLB, Cincinnati 6004 243 4.72
Matt Grootegoed, OLB, USC 5106 218
Tyjuan Hagler, OLB, Cincinnati 5115 236 35 4.62
Marques Harris, OLB, Southern Utah 6011 231 22 4.78
Leroy Hill, OLB, Clemson 6010 229 4.63
Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas 6032 242 4.54
Jared Newberry, OLB, Stanford 6011 254
Kenneth Pettway, OLB, Grambling St. 6030 236 4.75
Brady Poppinga, OLB, Brigham Young 6031 259 26 4.60
Barrett Rudd, OLB, Nebraska 6024 247 25 4.69
Derek Wake, OLB, Penn State 6026 236 20 4.60
Rian Wallace, OLB, Temple 6022 241 10
Demarcus Ware, OLB, Troy 6040 251 4.56
Cornelius Wortham, OLB, Alabama 6013 236 22 4.76

Note- I got these from a friend who works for the Colts and he indicated that even some "official times" seemed very different from what he saw. These are best of the two times not an average, if anyone has the other 40 I'd like to see them.

Hmmmm...interesting comment from the Colts' scout....Thanks for the post Bill.

Awesome info, Rob!! Thanks for posting it. Everybody..let's use the average of these two official 40s and get them updated.

Looks like Sensabaugh will definitely needed to be added back into our top 100, huh Rob? Francisco is already off it...it will be real hard for him to come back from running in the 4.8s...I wonder if he was hurt or sick or something...those are very disappointing times for him. Brimmer is history too....what a shame.

Yeah definitely fastest of the two times. Since the player is obviously fast enough to run that time that is what his 40 time is.

I have to agree. Once a player runs a time, he's proved his ability to reach that speed.

Sweet info. I personally dont think Roth or James could work as LBs. Both are great athletes, but I think they are pure pass rush DEs. I thought McGruder was bigger than that? Merriman put up 25, good strength. Surprise Clifford Dukes put up 28, nice!

Yes...very impressive. Owens will make a team as a KR specialist...even if he's not drafted the guy is incredibly quick and slippery.

Both Gibson and Brown from UGA slower than advertized!