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unofan22
Houston trades down to #3 for Tennessee's 1st, 4th, 6th in 06 and 2nd and 4th in 07.
Jets trade down to#10 for Detroit's 1st and 2nd and 5th in 07.

RD1
1HOU-2TEN-RB ReggieBush USC-Chow convinces 2 pay price to reunite with Bush.
2NO-QB Matt Lienhart USC-They need him. Bye bye Brooks.
3HOUFromTEN-OT D'Brickshaw Fergusen Vir-Needed more than RB or QB.
4NYJ-2DET-QB Vince Young Tex-Millen makes ballzy but good decision.
5GB-DE Mario Williams NC St-Peppers' clone gives d a major boost.
6OAK-DT Hatoli Ngata Ore-Big DT to replace Sapp as top DT on team.
7SF-RB LenDale White USC-No Bush! Oh well lets take the other USC guy White.
8BUF-DE Mathias Kiwanuka BC-They need a DE across from Schobel.
9NYJFromDET-QB Jay Cutler Vander-Brickshaw's gone, Blaylocks back take a QB.
10AZ-RB DeAngelo Williams Memph-He's the RB they need 2 really spark that O!!
11STL-CB/S Jimmy Williams VTech-6'3 with 4.4 speed and very versatile.
12CLE-LB AJ Hawk OH St-He will terrorize QBs in the scheme.
13BAL-OT Winston Justice USC-Ogden is slowing and Brown is too.
14PHI-DE Tamba Hali Penn St-Cole or McDougle will start but not for too long.
15ATL-S Mike Huff Tex-They're happy to get their guy.
16MIA-QB Omar Jacobs BG-If Linehan stays, he'll turn him into Daunte #2.
17MIN-LB Chad Greenway Iowa-This LB will impove and complete their defense.
18DAL-WR Santonio Holmes OH St-A young Terry Glenn in the making.
19SD-WR Matin Nance Miami OH-With a 6'4 frame and 4.4 speed he's a target.
20KC-CB Tye Hill Clem-Could be there #2 CB.
21TB-OT John Scott Tex-You could swap this with Baltimore's pick too. Cut Steus
22NYG-WR Derek Hagan AZ St-He could be Toomer's replacment.
23CIN-TE Vernon Davis Mary-Explosive weapon to add to this offense.
24JAX-TE Leonard Pope UGA-Big upgrade over Brady and Wrightster.
25NE-S Darnell Bing USC-Harrison is getting older and he's better than Sanders.
26WSH-2DEN-WR Hank Baskett UNLV-Plaxico clone that is better.
27CHI-CB/WR-Charles Gordon Kan-NIckleback and 3rd wideout and returner.
28IND-RB Laurence Maroney Minn-Swapable with Min if Edge stays or taken by Min
29CAR-TE Mercades Lewis UCLA-Finnaly got a good TE since Walls left.
30DEN-S Ko Simpson S.Car-Young fast safety to replace Lynch if he retires.
31SEA-DT Rod Wright Tex-The guy they need alongside Tubbs.
32PIT-OLB Manny Lawson NC St-This guy will compete with Joey Porter for sacks.
RD2
1HOU-S Pat Watkins Fla St-6'4 with 4.5 speed can make plays.
2NO-CB Ashton Youboty OH St-Fast CB that could start across from Mckenzie
3TEN-2HOU-WR Chad Jackson Fla-Fast WR who could be there #2 WR.
4NYJ-OT Eric Winston Miami-They need some protection to avoid injuries.
5GB-RB DonTrell Moore UNLV-Good RB that could develop fast.
6OAK-DE Stanley McGlover Aub-Similar to Burgess will be a great player.
7SF-CB/WR Devin Hester Miami-He can add speed to both sides of the ball for SF.
8BUF-DT Jesse Malehona Tenn-They need a DT to fill the loss of Pat Williams.
9DET-2NYJ-OG Max Jean-Giles UGA-A run blocker that can keep Martin safe.
10AZ-DT Orien Harris Miami-A great DT to team up with Darnell Dockett.
11STL-TE Anthony Fasono ND-They could use an upgrade over Manumaleuna.
12CLE-NT Gabe Watson Mich-Gabe is a big tackle that can help there defense.
13BAL-RB Brian Calhoun Wisconsin-Lewis or Taylor or both will be lost to FA.
14PHI-OG/T Davin Joseph Okl-Runyan is getting older and is too expensive.
15ATL-WR Greg Lee Pitt-He can contribute as rookie or start over White or Jenkins.
16MIA-OT Daryn Colledge Boise St-They can use some protection for a new QB.
17MIN-RB Maurice Drew UCLA-Quick RB that can fight with Moore and Fason.
18DAL-ILB Kai Parhman Vir-He can be a great ILB in Parcell's defense.
19SD-ILB D'Qwell Jackson Mary-An ILB that can replace Godfrey who is getting old
20KC-QB Darrell Hackney UAB-5th best QB in draft to sit behind aging Green.
21TB-WR Mike Hass Oregon St-They need and upgrade over Hilliard at the #3 WR.
22NYG-OT Jeremy Trueblood BC-6'9 330lbs he is a big tackle that can protect Eli.
23CIN-OG Fred Matua USC-Bobbie Williams isn't very good but Matua is.
24JAX-CB Antonio Cromartie Fla St-St 6'3 he can matchup with tall WRs.
25NE-RB Joseph Addai LSU-A fine RB that can backup Dillon and take over for him.
26WSH-DT Claude Wroten LSU-Off field problems but a great player on field.
27CHI-LB Bobby Carpenter OH St-Urlacher, Briggs, and Carpenter uhoh 06D=85D
28IND-OG Charles Spencer Pitt-They need pass protectors.
29CAR-WR Jason Avant Mich-Fast WR with good hands plays like Kolbert.
30DEN-DT Brodrick Bunkley Fla St-A good DT that can help anchor their line.
31SEA-WR Demetrius Williams Ore-Good route runner with good hands.
32PIT-DE Kyle Williams LSU-With 4.8 speed he can make a good 34 DE.
Rd 3
1HOU-ILB Abdul Hodge Iowa- A great LB that can play in Houston.
2NO-HOU-OG Taitusi Lutui USC-Very big man that can run block and pass block.
3TEN-BUF-OT Marcus McNeil Aub-A big OT line up across from Mike Williams.
4NYJ-WR Todd Watkins BYU-Chrebet retired so they need a #3 guy.
5GB-OLB Ernie Sims Fla St-Fast LB that can bolster their defense with good tackling
6OAK-QB Drew Olson UCLA-Productive QB to fight Walter to be the future QB.
7SF-DE Pat Massey Mich-At 6'8 280 he can make a great 34 DE.
8BUF-CB Alan Zemaitis Penn St-Clements might be leaving for free agency.
9DET-OT Ryan O'Callaghan Cali-They need a big OT across from Backus.
10AZ-QB Reggie McNeal Tex A&M-Denny will try to mold him into Daunte.
11STL-OLB Spencer Havner UCLA.Could go higher but the Rams would take him.
12CLE-CB Richard Marshall Fres St.-He could start a cross from Baxter.
13BAL-NE-CB Will Blackmon BC-A Troy Brown type that will get more time at CB.
14PHI-RB Gerald Riggs Jr Tenn-They need an inside runner to compliment Brian.
15ATL-CB DeMario Minter UGA-Fast CB from Georgia to team up with Hall.
16MIA-S Greg Blue UGA-Great tackler that is fast will help stop the run.
17MIN-WR Clinton Soloman-A good WR to put pressure on Williamson.
18DAL-QB Brodie Croyle Ala-He will compete with Henson for Bledsoe's job.
19SD-QB Paul Pinegar Fres St-Until they trade Brees or Rivers he'll be #3.
20KC-WR Jovon Bouknight Wyo-Fast and quick WR to compete with Parker for #2.
21TB-OLB Demeco Ryans Ala-He can beat out Nece for the starting OLB position.
22NYG-SS Bernard Pollard Purdue-Hard hitting safety will help stop the run.
23CIN-DE Darryl Tapp Vtech-Big time pass rusher that they can use.
24JAX-RB Leon Washington Fla St-Former teamat Jones will vouch for him.
25NE-LB Pierre Woods Mich-He fits the system and McGinest isn't getting younger.
26WSH-CB/S Jayson Allen Tenn-This low is a steal for him.
27CHI-DE Chris Gocong Cal Poly-Had 23.5 sacks in 05 and 17.5 in 04 in divison 2.
28IND-OG Will Allen Tex-They need guards.
29CAR-DT Babitunde Oshinowo Stan-Big DT that can take over for Buckner.
30DEN-DE Elvis Dumervil Lou-His size won't keep him from getting to the QB.
31SEA-LB Tom Howard UTEP-They could ad him to beat out Hill for playing time.
32PIT-RB Jerome Harrison Wsh St-This a good place for him and a spot to pick him up.
bipolarboy
Why is Atlanta taking a WR in the 2nd? We have two young guys already who're developing, and we'll either re-sign Finneran or another vet. Atlanta doesn't use 4 WR sets b/c it means Alge Crumpler has to come out of the game.
draftguru
Your draft order is wrong. See this thread for the correct order: http://cdsdraft.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=3793

The talent drop from Vince Young to Jay Cutler is pretty big so I really don't see the Jets trading down to reach on a guy when Young would be available at their pick.

Cleveland would love to grab Hawk at #12 but he won't last that long.

I really don't see Jacobs cracking the first round. Second round probably but not first.

Martin Nance too high.

DeMeco Ryans too low.

Abdul Hodge too low.

Oshinowo too low.

Brodrick Bunkley too low.

Greg Lee too high.

DonTrell Moore too high.
Falcon32
The Packers are taking Hawk and if they did not he would not last till the 12th pick. I believe you are totally right though on the Texans and thats what they should do, I just do not think that is what they are going to do. And Im not sure if they do trade down they do it with Tennessee.
unofan22
QUOTE(draftguru @ Jan 17 2006, 03:50 PM)
Your draft order is wrong. See this thread for the correct order: http://cdsdraft.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=3793

The talent drop from Vince Young to Jay Cutler is pretty big so I really don't see the Jets trading down to reach on a guy when Young would be available at their pick.

Cleveland would love to grab Hawk at #12 but he won't last that long.

I really don't see Jacobs cracking the first round. Second round probably but not first.

Martin Nance too high.

DeMeco Ryans too low.

Abdul Hodge too low.

Oshinowo too low.

Brodrick Bunkley too low.

Greg Lee too high.

DonTrell Moore too high.

Did you come up with that order. New England made it past the wild card so they can't be the 1st play off team to have a pick. Washingon also is with the wild card teams on your board they made to the divisonals remember. The draft goes by play off brach and then by record. Brodrick Bunkley in my eyes will be a 3rd or 2nd rounder and Nance will be a 1st with his height and speed. With the Jets trade down they can adress their needs on the O-Line and still the 3rd best QB. With the Texans trading down to Tenness they don't have to drop to far and they still get the guy they need most. If anything the price will be higher and I do thin Fisher and chow would be willing to pay it for Bush and then they cna trade Brown or Henry for a 3rd to get some picks back. I slo think Millen could really like Young if he is vailable and is worth trading up for to keep his job. Moore is a steal in the 2nd, he would be a 1st rounder but the talent level is too deep at RB. On lots of draft board Jacobs goes in the 1st round and depending on his combine he should crack the 1st round. With the talent I have drafted above Oshinowo at his position he could easily fall that far. Ryans is overrated and Hodge did drop a little too far all though it could be possible.
Greg Lee is definatley too high. He is in the higher level of the top 10 WRs. It jsut depends on the team that likes him the most.


As far as ATL drafting a WR I think they need to not for a #4 but for a #1. Jenkins has developed very slow. Finneran is garbage and White seems like he needs more time although I think he is better than Jenkins.

And if the Packers have a chance to get Super Mario, I'm sure thery woud tke him over Hawk. Plus i have them takin Sims in round 3 where they could also take him in round 2.
scar988
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15ATL-WR Greg Lee Pitt-He can contribute as rookie or start over White or Jenkins.

WE DONT NEED A WR! We just don't. if we got one it would be a 7th roudner with potential to be a #3. but Jenkins and White are our starters. Greg Lee is a joke and we wouldn't want him and he deifnately wouldn't be any more than the #5 behind Jenkins, Roddy, Finn and Pathon and he would sit on the bench. you don't draft a 2nd roudner to sit on the bench. we woudl get Daryn Colledge there.
draftguru
QUOTE(unofan22 @ Jan 17 2006, 03:43 PM)
Did you come up with that order. New England made it past the wild card so they can't be the 1st play off team to have a pick. Washingon also is with the wild card teams  on your board they made to the divisonals remember. The draft goes by play off brach and then by record. Brodrick Bunkley in my eyes will be a 3rd or 2nd rounder and Nance will be a 1st with his height and speed. With the Jets trade down they can adress their needs on the O-Line and still the 3rd best QB. With the Texans trading down to Tenness they don't have to drop to far and they still get the guy they need most. If anything the price will be higher and I do thin Fisher and chow would be willing to pay it for Bush and then they cna trade Brown or Henry for a 3rd to get some picks back. I slo think Millen could really like Young if he is vailable and is worth trading up for to keep his job. Moore is a steal in the 2nd, he would be a 1st rounder but the talent level is too deep at RB. On lots of draft board Jacobs goes in the 1st round and depending on his combine he should crack the 1st round. With the talent I have drafted above Oshinowo at his position he could easily fall that far. Ryans is overrated and Hodge did drop a little too far all though it could be possible.
Greg Lee is definatley too high. He is in the higher level of the top 10 WRs. It jsut depends on the team that likes him the most.


As far as ATL drafting a WR I think they need to not for a #4 but for a #1. Jenkins has developed very slow. Finneran is garbage and White seems like he needs more time although I think he is better than Jenkins.

And if the Packers have a chance to get Super Mario, I'm sure thery woud tke him over Hawk. Plus i have them takin Sims in round 3 where they could also take him in round 2.

Your understanding of how the draft order is set is not exactly right.

The NFL Draft selection order is determined according to the following rules:

-The teams are placed in order from worst winning percentage selecting first to best winning percentage selecting last. The last two spots are reserved for the Super Bowl winner and loser with the 31st pick going to the loser and the 32nd pick going to the winner.

-If non-playoff teams tie for the same winning percentage the first tie breaker is strength of schedule. The team that has the weaker strength of schedule selects before the team with the harder strength of schedule. The next tie breaker is divisional and conference records with the team with the weaker record selecting first. In the event that the teams are still tied a coin flip will determine the selection order.

-If playoff teams tie for the same winning percentage the first tie breaker is how far they advanced in the playoffs. The team that is knocked out first selects first. If the teams are knocked out in the same round of the playoffs then you follow the non-playoff team order of tie breakers.

-If a playoff team and a non-playoff team tie for the same winning percentage the non-playoff team selects before the playoff team.

-In subsequent rounds teams with identical winning percentages rotate their order due to a set pattern. In the first round the team with the weakest strength of schedule selects first in the group. In the second round the team with the weakest strength of schedule selects last in the group with identical records and every other team with the same winning percentage moves up one spot. Each subsequent round the team that selected first in the group the previous round moves to the last spot in the group and each team moves up one spot.


The draft order in the thread I linked is the correct draft order as of today.


Here is an example to show you how it works-

Kansas City, New England, and Washington all finished the season with identical 10-6 records. Kansas City did not make the playoffs while Washington and New England did. So Kansas City selects before both New England and Washington. Washington and New England were both knocked out in the same round of the playoffs meaning you have to consult non-playoff team tie breakers. Since New England's strength of schedule was .508 and Washington's was .539 New England selects before Washington. Then since Washington traded its first round choice to Denver Denver now owns the rights to the 22nd pick in the draft.
scar988
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As far as ATL drafting a WR I think they need to not for a #4 but for a #1. Jenkins has developed very slow. Finneran is garbage and White seems like he needs more time although I think he is better than Jenkins.

simply put you are wrong. Roddy whtie developed a lot faster than Jenkins did and Jenkins and White are the starters. basically no matter what. actually do your research. we won't draft yet another WR without even giving the first 2 a chance. Our WR's look liek this next year:
X - White/Pathon
Z - Jenkins/Finneran
the bold one is the starter
unofan22
QUOTE(scar988 @ Jan 18 2006, 01:00 AM)
QUOTE

As far as ATL drafting a WR I think they need to not for a #4 but for a #1. Jenkins has developed very slow. Finneran is garbage and White seems like he needs more time although I think he is better than Jenkins.

simply put you are wrong. Roddy whtie developed a lot faster than Jenkins did and Jenkins and White are the starters. basically no matter what. actually do your research. we won't draft yet another WR without even giving the first 2 a chance. Our WR's look liek this next year:
X - White/Pathon
Z - Jenkins/Finneran
the bold one is the starter

Pathon is a joke and hasn't done anything since he left the Colt's and Finneran is just a guy to use over the middle too keep Jenkins healthy win he should be the one going over the middle. I definately see White as there best WR and there starter but Jenkins has been vey dissapointing. The worst part is even if they had 4 great WRs Vick would still screw it up. I like him but last year was very dissapointin they might as well convert him to RB becasue he sure isn't thowing the ball.
scar988
QUOTE(unofan22 @ Jan 18 2006, 04:13 AM)
Pathon is a joke and hasn't done anything since he left the Colt's and Finneran is just a guy to use over the middle too keep Jenkins healthy win he should be the one going over the middle. I definately see White as there best WR and there starter but Jenkins has been vey dissapointing. The worst part is even if they had 4 great WRs Vick would still screw it up. I like him but last year was very dissapointin they might as well convert him to RB becasue he sure isn't thowing the ball.

Pathon is the #4. he had an expanded role later in the season. and both Jenkisn and finneran go over the middle. so that really shows you don't watch Falcosn games. there are 2 WR starters and Jenkisn was anythign but disappointing. Jenkins did what he was supposed to do this season and worked his ass off and had a better year than Dez white did in 2004. and will have aroun 700 yards next year with the passing game gettign expanded. Roddy shoudl have aroudn 1000. and if you actaully watched the Falcons you would know that Jenkins, Finneran and Crumpler are all in on 3rd downs and goalline situations. And that Jab at Vick is just plain retarded. QB's have to get chemistry with their receivers. Vick has only had 7 total games iwht both Roddy and Jenkins starting and Finn at the #3. Continuity breeds chemistry. and the fact is you made a terrible pick. it won't happen AT ALL.
kreece1231
There is no way that the Texans will trade away the first pick, THEY NEED IT TOO BAD!!!! Yes, D'Brickishaw is a great player, but Bush is a type of player that comes every 5-10 years. He is an absolutely amazing athlete. His offensive presence should help the texans, along with some possible off-season deals and Kubiak's new coaching style.
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