A few height surprises from this morning's height/weigh-ins:

Abdul Hodge measured in at only 5'11.8"
Chad Greenway was 6'2.1"
Daniel Bullocks was slightly bigger than expected at 6'0.5"
Michael Robinson was 6'1" even

We will have notes this evening from this afternoon's first practice session, so stay tuned!

The NFL Channel is covering the Senior Practices. I found about about it too late. I saw some of the highlights with Mike Mayock but you ended up with his evaluations rather than any real take on the players. Today was the North practice (hard to tell with guys from Clemson, Vanderbilt and Virginia TEch).

D'Brickshaw Ferguson had a nice pass block on Kiwi. He was listed at 6'5" 297 but a lot more defined than most NFL tackles. Impressive.

Mayock loves the Vanderbilt QB but there wasn't much action to watch.

The North coach, Jeff Fiser, clearly has some interest in these guys.

Ty Hill of Clemson made a nice interception but at 5'9", 179, may not meet everybody's requirements for a CB. There were a couple of big receivers in Stovall of Notre Dame and Avant of Michigan but they didn't get much chance to show their stuff either.

The three DE's, Hali, Kiwi and Tapp looked like the strength of North team.

Tomorrow the South practice with Gruden will be shown.

I just finished up watching the NFL Network's 30 minute Sr. Bowl wrap-up. Good stuff, but I too would have liked to have seen a lot more action. They spent too much time with the camera on Barkann and Mayock. They could have put some practice clips in the background while those two were talking.

I've got the DVR going for the coverage from ESPN and NFL Network tomorrow... should be able to see a lot more.

Mayock was only on for a half hour but he's already annoying me. If he says that Jay Cutler is "his guy" one more time...

ESPN will cover the Senior Bowl from 1:30-2:30pm Central Time. Just a heads up for all that need to know.

Chow,



Greg

Today's notes (mostly from the South practice session): Ohio State C Nick Mangold has been really impressive so far. He stoned OU's DT Dusty Dvoracek in the one-on-one drills and has been showing great hand usage.

WRs Derek Hagan and Martin Nance have not been as consistent catching the ball as folks would like, and questions have been raised about Hank Baskett's ability to separate on a consistent basis against NFL-caliber DBs.

Michael Robinson has been up and down with his accuracy, and unlike former Arkansas QB Matt Jones has NOT been working out at all at WR. Mistake...

Some are saying all three junior TEs, Davis, Pope, Fasano are ahead of UCLA's Marcedes Lewis on many boards. IMHO, that is NUTS! He has great hands and the best frame of any TE in the draft. He is not a great blocker as of yet, but that could change. Mel Kiper even was quoted as saying that he likes Byrd as much as Lewis, but Byrd has been a bit inconsistent, up yesterday, and down today where he struggled catching the ball and was late off the snap a couple of times.
Joe Klopfenstein has looked pretty good, but there are still questions about his blocking.

Brodie Croyle has done alright so far, but everybody is waiting to look at his decision-making in the game atmosphere on Saturday. Hackney has impressed with the deep ball and accuracy, but there is still a buzz about him measuring in at only 511.3. Jay Cutler continues to impress in every phase of the game.

Jesse Mahelona has been perhaps the most impressive DT on the South squad. Gets low and DRIVES people!

Kiper reportedly said that Eric Winston could go as low as the 4th round. But he looked good in the drills. Neutralized the bull rush in one-on-ones quite well. Short arms, but uses his hands well to make up for it.

LSU DE Kyle Williams has been impressive with his all-out hustle.

People are raving about UTEP LB Thomas Howard's physique and measurables, but no one was really talking about his play--(as expected here at CDS).

Apparently Domonique Byrd almost prompted laughter when got up for measurements. He was described as short and soft. Reports are that he does possess some very nice hands though.


As for Jesse Mahelona, he gets low because he starts low (he's 6 feet even). I think that more and more teams will start to embrace the shorter DT because of their automatic advantage in getting leverage.

Just watched the Senior Bowl Practice and here are my thoughts.

1) NICK MANGOLD - impressive , great hands and technique. MOVING UP>

2) ERIC WINSTON - very stout at the point. Needs to maintain that level all week to solidify a 1st Round Grade.

3) DARYL TAPP - gets good push on his Bull Rush's. Drove TrueBlood back several times.

4) JESSE MEHALONA - plays low , huge legs , powerful drive.Also has surprising motor and athleticism.

5) BABATUNDE OSHINOWE - great initial push , shows good ability to shed and disengage.

6) KYLE WILLIAMS- as usual , big motor , uses hands well to get off blocks.

7) DARYL HACKNEY - big arm , major buzz about height.

8) BRODIE CROYLE - poor accuracy

9) MICHAEL ROBINSON - bright kid that is not putting it all together and could use some reps at WR. Did field a few punts , which is a good start.

10)GABE WATSON - diehard effort , good surge, but couldn't seperate from blockers.

Did anybody do anymore HT/WT updating since I did about half of it yesterday?

I agree on Byrd. He reminds me of a poor man's Jermaine Wiggins.

Lewis, on the other hand, is a huge guy with 4.5 speed who is a modern TE that can really stretch the seams.

yea...it was funny that right after Kiper dumped on Winston and pumped Byrd, Winston destroyed Mark Anderson in one-on-ones, and Byrd came of the ball late in 9-on-7s and missed a block...lol.

I agree with everybody's comments on Mangold. It seemed like every time he was up in the 1on1 drills he drove the defender into the ground. I also agree with you Greg on Tapp. He plays with superb leverage for his size. I'm in agreement also on Byrd. He is a roly-poly.

I still believe that Manny Lawson will be the biggest winner at the Senior Bowl (at least defensively). He GREW when he weighed in, as opposed to everybody else. He plays with awesome balance, body control, and feet. He looked great on the hoop drill.

Here is the report from Today's North Practice session directly from our on-the-scene reporter in Mobile:

Jay Cutler struggled early as he did most of yesterday. He showed pretty good arm strength but was high on a lot of passes. He seemed more in rythym towards the end of practice and made some nice throws.

Michael Robinson has been playing QB exclusively. He has shown good arm strength and reasonable accuracy, though many of his throws were towards the wrong side of the receiver's body.

The players that stood out the most to me was Washington State running back Jerome Harrison. He showed good burst, change of direction and vision. Running Backs are often the most difficult to evaluate in these controlled situations since the tackling is not live but he was more impressive than any others.

Oregon's Terrence Whitehead had a fumble yesterday and got blown up in one on one blocking drills with the linebackers

Jason Avant has been solid. Maurice Stovall dropped a perfectly thrown ball from Michael Robinson which went right through his hands.

Anwar Phillips struggled in coverage on several occasions.

Daniel Bullocks looks solid and made an interception and broke up another pass.

Abdul Hodge and Greenway were strong in the short yardage run defense

D'Qwell Jackson, LB, Maryland looked very good in the pass rushing drills

An addendum to the above:

At the weigh in D'Brickshaw Ferguson was one of the most impressive looking specimens. Solid, unlike many of the other lineman

At practice some OL coaches thought he was playing a little high

Setterstrom had a solid practice

TE Dominique Byrd of USC had some nice receptions up the middle of the field

Gabe Watson looked strong inside as well.

Any Word on Garrett Mills from Tulsa?

I believe they brought him in as a fullback and only measured out at a little over 6 ft and 236 lbs....

I really think Oklahoma's Travis Wilson is a forgotten player by many simply because the first half of the season, Bomar couldnt get him the ball and when the offense started clicking he was hurt...but dont forget this is the guy that was the 3rd receiver last year on that team ahead of 3rd round pick Brandon Jones.

It's pretty funny to read the different reviews... I watched the ESPN coverage today and also caught the NFL Network Wrap-up tonight. I also read reviews from a lot of scouts on a lot of different sites and everyone seems to say different things...

A bit more from yesterday...

Punter John Torp from Colorado was wildy inconsistent for the second straight day. He showed a powerful leg and boomed some tremendous kicks down the field (with the wind). His consistency was another story. He rarely hit two balls solidly in a row and he was wobbling many balls off the side of his foot. If he can develop a more consistent drop to allow him to strike the ball solidly he certainly has the leg strength to be successful.

The South receivers showed flashes of brilliance but not as much consistency as you would like to see. Auburn has a trio of receivers in the game and both Aromashodu and Obomanu made outstanding catches, including many in traffic. It appears only a lack of concentration was the issue but they need to clean up the consistency.

The player that jumped out most for the South was a running back. Remembering our warning that the lack of full tackling makes it harder to judge DeAngelo Williams was by far the best running back on the field. He showed great ability to cut back and terrific vision in finding the hole. His acceleration through the hole separated him from the other backs.

UCLA TE Marcedes Lewis looked strong and showed good hands.

Notes and quotes from NFL Total Access's noon Senior Bowl Recap show:

Montavious Stanley (not at SB--injury) was listed as the 7th best DT in the country by Mike Mayock.

DeAngelo Williams's only question mark remains his pass pro. At just 5'8.5", 208 this is no shocker.

Bord Bunkley is definitely NOT a DT. He is not even a 3-4 DE. He must play a 4-3 DE, 3-tech, and could even be considered an OLB hybrid......lol

Kiwi got used badly by D'Brick in the one-on-one pass pro drills and really needs to step it up today.

Winston (unlike Kiper's horrendous 4th-round talk nonsense yesterday) is clearly the 3rd best OT, and did a nice job in one-on-ones.

Jonathan Scott is listed by Mayock as #4. (D'Brick, Justice, Winston, Scott).

Jean-Gilles (as expected) shows very well in the running game, but has struggled in space and is being described by some as a poor man's Shawn Andrews.

Darrell Hackney reportedly guaranteed he would measure in over 6'. When he didn't, he gave a nice, fluid, confident interview talking about his other attributes, especially his high delivery. NFL scouts are not going to take the high delivery that much into account, though. Still, he has been very impressive with his deep ball and his accuracy overall has been more than adequate. Mayock compares him to David Garrard.

Then there was an interesting debate between Mayock and Pat Kirwan about who is better--Leinart or Cutler. Mayock is sold on Cutler, and Kirwan on Leinart. They both made good points. Mayock on Leinart's talented environment and limited athleticism. Kirwan on Cutler's non-impressive performances in the practices to date. Kirwan likes Croyle's body of work so far in Mobile, and says he is moving into the 2nd round.

Mayock's top LBs are:

Hawk, Greenway, Sims, McIntosh, D'Qwell, Ryans, and Thomas Howard. No one has yet mentioned Spencer Havner...?

They showed some nice WR-CB one-on-ones:

Anwar Phillips was burned badly by Travis Wilson, but Mayock says he has been pretty intriguing so far this week anyway.

Demetrius Williams made a nice catch (with a slight push-off) on Darrell Hunter, and Mayock says he is his #1 receiver in the country even though not many are talking that way.

David Pittman (who Bill STILL needs to put in our database) did a very nice job on Derek Hagans.

Mayock's (and ours) #1 CB, Tye Hill, has been the most impressive CB at the Senior Bowl, and he did a nice job with Martin Nance, who (again) dropped a catchable ball.

Kelly Jennings has stood out as one of the better and more technically-sound CBs.

T.J. Williams has been inconsistent--very good and the very bad.

Hackney has been struggling with timing some, but he hit Aromoshadu with a nice TD pass in the corner of the endzone.

Garrett Mills--will be converted to a pass-catching FB, but who does that much?

Vickers is the best overall FB prospect. Solid in pass pro. Great lead blocking.

Chris Spielman was pointing out that D'Brick is not yet totally sound technically, and he agrees with Steve Martin of CDS in saying that the elite tackles--LTs that are taken in the top 5 must be able to just pulverize guys at the LOS on running plays, and D'Brick doesn't yet do that. Kiper still says he's going 4th to the Jets--raves about his black belt.

Andre Hall (RB, S. Florida) has looked solid catching the ball and returning some kicks. Second-day, part timer at this point.

Croyle, says Mel, has gone from a 4th-5th rounder if he had a ho hum Senior Bowl week to a possible 2nd rounder.

Manny Lawson--playing better than Kiwi. Kiwi is still being destroyed by D'Brick. I'd like to see them show him against somebody else. Well, they did show Colledge against him once, and Daryn got the better of him there also. Mel says Kiwi could go as late as #22 to the second of Denver's 2 first round slots. No way, I say. The Pats would grab him in a heartbeat to replace Willie McGinest.

Jerrious Norwood (Miss St, RB) has looked better than expected.

Stephen Gostkowski (K, Memphis) has done well.

Abdul Hodge has been doing a very nice job in the running game, but reportedly is struggling in pass drops and with catching the football.

Jason Avant and Derek Hagan are falling--not catching the ball consistently.

O'Callaghan is rising. Could be the first pure ROT off the boards.

No "pizzazz" chemistry between any of the QBs and WRs yet.

Trueblood beaten by Hali one-on-one.

Watson did OK against Mangold in one-on-one, and no one else has even done OK so far. Mangold could go early 2nd-late first!

Charles Spencer looks very good in pass pro. Stoned Dvoracek, but they are putting him back at OG. He looks like a pro ROT at minimum to me. Former defensive lineman...run blocker, solid pass blocker...mean streak....why waste him inside???

That has been my problem with Bunkley all year. He too often becomes obsessed with getting in the backfield no matter what the play is or what his responsibilities are. He seems to feel that if he gets penetration he is being the best DT he can be. A good offensive coordinator will quickly realize that and easily take advantage of Bunkley on the other side of the line. He needs to play in a system that just allows him to pin his ears back and push to play up to his potential.

The only things I have heard about Havner so far Steve have been negative. Again reports persist that he had severe problems at the point of attack and looks lost on many plays. He is definitely looking like a third rounder in many people's eyes and could even go second day if his workout numbers aren't where they should be.

Heres my thoughts on today.

Havner will be picked in the 50-60 range I think.

Ferguson looks amazing, just dominating Kiwi(who we are serverly overrating and have been all year)

I dont think Cutler looks that good, top 10? Im not there yet.

Hackney and Shockley have looked like garbage.

Kelly Jennings has stood out as the best corner there.

Chad Greenway continues to impress.

Lawson is going to be the shocker of the draft. I think hes going in the teens to a team. Tweeners are so sexy right now and Manny is looking like an incredible piece of work.

Nick Mangold might be the first interior lineman taken. He has absolutely dominated his man.

Avant, Hagan, Baskett have all looked unimpressive. The junior WR should crowd the first round.

D Williams looks good, as does Andre Hall and Jerious Norwood.

QBs and WRs look bad at this point, RBs and DEs look good.

I am just now reviewing film on today's practice but two things I am sure ,
D'Brick is amazing and Spencer Havner should at the very least be at the bottom of round 2.

Where did you see film on Spencer, Greg? Man, I've been looking and haven't seen him yet at all. TIA...

I am refering to Total Accesses coverage and they showed Havner multiple times being coached by Mike Singletary. I just dont think Havner warrants a First Round Grade. He has not taken it up to the next level at practice.

Yeah, I saw that last night. Singletary was pointing out how Havner was indecisive on a goal-line play...

Ok...Havner dropped down on the Top 100, Chad Jackson raised, Stovall added, and Martin nance (who's been pretty awful this weak) has been dropped altogether.

All player movement has been edited on the Value Board.
All Conf USA & WAC players in the Senior Bowl have had their measurements edited in the database.

What's the consensus on Charles Spencer? I think he should move back to Guard. RT at best . I read earlier posts on Spencer , but I think most teams would look for Spencer inside.

Are we projecting Colledge as OT only or do you think after his practices , teams will consider Colledge at OG also. He had a great week at both positions.

I also think Sinorice Moss should be considered as a Low 2.

The other player I think is a little high is Whitworth. Any comments?

OK...I caught the tailend of Singletary working with Havner, but did not hear the critique.

Albert Toeaina is not getting it done and will have to move inside to guard to have any shot...Kameron Wimbley abused him badly one-on-one twice in a row.

Wimbley has impressed and Mayock is talking possibly late first.

Jesse Mahelona looked good against teammate Cody Douglass, but not so good against Max Jean-Gilles who is rising. J-G also handled Kyle Williams pretty well.

Eric Winston did a nice job against Mark Anderson, but they say his week has been less than spectacular--a bit inconsitent.

Jonathan Scott did pretty well against Wimbley.

Maurice Stovall was "running away with the day" showing me better separation quickness than I thought he had, and finally putting it together with his hands this week.

Sinorice Moss beat Kelly Jennings deep.

Robinson was running some pass patterns today! GOOD FOR HIM!!!

David Pittman (DB-Northwestern State-LA) has really made a name for himself this week.

At the close of the half-hour program they talked about some of the not-so-big-name guys who have impressed. They were: Darren Colledge, Brian Iwuh (who looks like he can plat SS or OLB) and Manny Lawson. (I'm not sure how Lawson is not a "big name", but that is what they said...lol.)

P.S. Hackney had one very nice completion on air, and they complemented him on a "beautiful ball" on that play.

That's great work!

I would like to know where we think Sinorice Moss should be in the top 100 and MORE IMPORTANTLY who we should replace when we include him.

I'm hesitant to lower a guy like Whitworth this week with all the SB hype who is NOT there and not able to make any impression either way...but I'm listening...

They are saying Spencer will be a guard. I still disagree. I think he is a guy who can be successful at 4 of 5 OL spots, and he has much better feet than your average OG, but that is what they are saying at the SB...move him inside.

They are saying Colledge came into this week with a lot of folks projecting him inside, but he has played so well at OT that they are re-assessing that judgement. He is doing GREAT!!! Take the time to congratulate him, OK guys?

Here's another scout's take on Spencer Havner during the first three days of practice:



Spencer Havner
Weigh-In Notes: Slender with minimal tone.

Monday Practice Notes: Not as comfortable dropping back in pass protection, but showed an ability to slink through traffic to make tackles in the running game.

Tuesday Practice Notes: Displayed terrific football intelligence and the ability to diagnose the action. Tough as nails and worked to throw his pad into the fray. Does not display great range on the field.

Wednesday Practice Notes: Did a great job quarterbacking the defense and making the calls. Scraped well in the box and forcefully moved up field in run defense. Showed a bad tendency of over-running plays and taking himself out of the action.

That gels pretty well with what I have been trying to say all year. He does INDEED have rare football intelligence, and the toughness to just make plays.

We shall see how he does on game day this Saturday. That is where Spencer shines, and I suspect he will surpise a few people at the combine with his speed. He is not a "wow you" specimen, he is just a darn good football player. I'd take a guy like that in a heartbeat over a "wow" guy like a Thomas Howard or a Terna Nande, who look great until the whistles start blowing.

Don't forget also, that he has a great frame, room to grow, and is coachable. I great LB coach will make this guy an absolute KILLER at the next level. I've been sold for a long time, obviously. But then, I've watched him intently for two+ years as well, and I know what a difference maker he can be despite practice perfomances or workout numbers.

Oh...and I really don't agree with the "not rangy" stuff. He is one of the best passing game LBs in the country specifically BECAUSE he ranges so well, has that height, and great ball-hawking instincts to give TEs or crossing receivers fits. Let's not forget we are talking about a LB here with 13 CAREER INTERCEPTIONS, and many, many more batted balls to his credit.

I asked where Sinorice Moss was in our top 20 back on January 17th prior to the Senior Bowl. I also have him easily ranked as the best WR coming out of the ACC (although that is not saying much). I have him as borderline top 10 right now at the WR position. Depending on your system and what you want he is top 10 or top 15. His lack of size limits his demand a little bit but he is a solid player that somehow flew under the radar for most people despite playing at Miami and having a Pro Bowl older brother.

A couple of guys I like Moss more than in the top 10 are:
Martin Nance
Greg Lee

Guys I like more not in top 10:
Brandon Williams
Travis Wilson is close to Moss

I wouldn't mind seeing Moss put right at #10(right on the border) for WR and somewhere around 75 for top 100.

Another guy that is supposedly having a great Senior Bowl is Chad Greenway. The reason I bring this up is it gives me an opportunity to toot my own horn. Back on October 7th in the mid season top 100 list I said I like Greenway better than Hodge and I guaranteed Greenway would go higher than Hodge who at the time was ranked higher on the top 100. Hodge is now #31 and Greenway is #13 on the top 100 list.

Today's North team (Titans staff) practice notes and comments:

Tye Hill is the best CB at the Senior Bowl and may have had the catch of the week on an awesone endzone interception leap vs. Stovall. He beat Stovall 2 out of 3 times in one-on-one situations. Amazing, considering the size disparity. MK says he has had the best week of any player at the SB (wow!) but that he is no more than a mid-to-late second (We have him slotted right, and have had for a long time.)

David Pittman's name keeps coming up as a guy to watch. He's not very big (510.8, 177--about Allante Harrison's size--hrumph...), but he shows a great burst on the ball.

MK says that Michael Huff may end up at CB in the NFL, and if he does he ranks him now as the top CB, with Williams, Youboty, Cromartie and Jonathan Joseph (So. Carolina)(!!!) 1-5...no mention of Hill, Richard Marshall, Zemaitis...weird stuff...

Anwar Phillips stock has dropped a lot. He has looked stiff, and we all know he was not the big, physical enforced-type like Alan Zemaitis to begin with...4'5th rounder...

Charles Spencer was the topic de jure among O-linemen. He has played every snap inside at guard this week (dumb, IMHO) but everyone is jumping on his bandwagon and saying he could go late first now. (How long has he been on our top 100? Since September-something??) I think that's a little high, but he is the most versatile of the elite O-linemen this year. I think he can play left tackle--his feet are that good. They talked about how great his feet are, but then proceeded to say he will play inside (??) WHY!? 330 pounds, very strong, nasty disposition (former DT) This guy would be my left tackle and I'd get a big back and pound it, then run play action...because he is also great in pass pro...but that's just me...old style again...lol.

Just a comment, of the cuff here, but according to the announcers, when you listen to them there must be 50 NFL teams now, because there are 50 first round picks in Mobile this week.

Jerome Harrison (RB) has not been great, but not bad either. He has struggled catching the football and will be (IMHO) a 4-5th guy because of that.

Stovall--despite all the recent buzz, he still gets abused by the better cover corners, is not a crisp route guy, and dropped a couple today. MK is saying possible late first. I am saying, whoa...let's wait a little on that, now...

Travis Wilson (OK WR) has been impressive most of the week, but had a drop in 11-on-11 today, but he beat Will Blackmon (BC CW/WR) who has seen time only at CB and has not elevated his stock.

Babatunde Oshinowo (Stanford DT) has been doing well. Fills a gap like Watson, but has a bit more pass rush wiggle. They are saying 3-4th. I'm saying guaranteed 3rd.

Daniel Bullocks picked off a Charlie Whitehurst pass in 11-on-11s and has looked very good in coverage all week. May wind up in the late 3rd-early 4th. Definitely at least a 100-120 guy (at worst) if we were ranking that many.

Jeremy Trueblood (massive BC OT) has been a little up and down, but they love his size and size potential and he plays hard. He only really struggles with the really short DEs because of their leverage advantage and he will be a solid 2-early 3rd guy (and we agree.)

All the rage is still about Dominique Byrd still, if you listen to Kiper, especially. He has caught the ball well, granted. But where is the mauler in the running game for a guy that short? Need that to be an elite TE, and he ain't got it. MK is saying he is in the mix with the other top 4 TEs (Davis, Pope, Lewis, Fasano)...I just don't see it. Sorry...

Interesting Mel Kiper quote on if Reggie Bush, as expected, goes to the Texans: "Reggie Bush is not the guy who will be the focal point of that running game." Ummm...why the heck would you take him first overall, then?? I know he can do other things, but if I draft him #1 he will touch the ball 25 times minimum even if it's in a variety of ways. If we are alluding that this won't happen, Houston better trade down and get a high 2nd for moving a couple to 3-4 spots.

This is where I have the Pos. Ranks right now (hasn't been posted yet -- waiting until after the game).

# Name Sch
1 Santonio Holmes Ohio State
2 Demetrius Williams Oregon
3 Derek Hagan Arizona State
4 Mike Hass Oregon State
5 Chad Jackson Florida
6 Maurice Stovall Notre Dame
7 Sinorice Moss Miami-FL
8 Jason Avant Michigan
9 Greg Lee Pittsburgh
10 Brandon Marshall Central Florida
11 Travis Wilson Oklahoma
12 Hank Baskett New Mexico
13 Martin Nance Miami (OH)
14 Jonathan Orr Wisconsin
15 Jovon Bouknight Wyoming
16 Brandon Williams Wisconsin
17 Devin Hester Miami-FL
18 Todd Watkins Brigham Young
19 Cory Rodgers TCU
20 Clinton Solomon Iowa

I would like to drop Hagan down to #5, pushing Hass and Jackson up some more. Hagan has not shown well in the SR Bowl practices, but I'll wait until the game is done to get a better idea.

How much does Williams weigh?? He looked skinny as a rail. I'd hate to see him go over the middle and get crushed by an NFL sized MLB.

If you meant Demetrius Williams, he's 6'2 185.
He is very skinny and I don't think he can bulk up any.
He's still a great wideout.

January 26th Review, adding my thoughts.

Dominique Byrd is getting alot of credit today. Hes made a number of good plays and showed tremendous awareness on one play to avoid a defender. Prolly a 2nd rounder.

Travis Wilson has been the most impressive WR to this point, but he did drop 1 pass that I saw.

Cutler continues to look good, but there isnt any pressure on him. Is he the Lions guy?

Mike Bell looked good out of the backfield and showed a very good burst through the line.

Martin Nance is still trash. Waste of talent whos missed numerous balls.

Jerome Harrison catching out of the backfield has been shaky at best.

Will Blackmon is looking lost at corner and is letting his guy get the best of him.

All the wide receivers just arent impressing. Hagan, Avant and company just arent standing out.

Gabe Watson shouldnt be a first rounder. Hes looked sloppy, unfocused, and undisciplined. He shouldnt be touched before pick 35.

I did mean Demetrius. I know he's talented, but he lacks any body density at all. That would really scare me.

Been saying it since August. Blackmon is overrated as a corner.

Hey wb, did you have to post that pic of Demetrius Williams' legs? Now I'll keep thinking Todd Pinkston every time I see his name.

In the top 100 , what about swapping Rodrigue Wright for Max Jean - Gilles?

We all know that Mike Mayock is a Jay Cutler fan and has said that he is the #1 QB available this year. Now Chris Mortenson is also coming out saying that Jay Cutler is hybrid of Leinart and Young and will be the 1st drafted.

Also saying that the Titans would strongly consider Cutler at the #3 spot.

Another interesting thought was that some personnel people were purposely trying to downgrade Cutler , but it won't work because "the secret is out".

Vanderbilt is in Tennessee, so the Titans have probably been able to scout him more heavily than some other teams. Wonder if this could happen?

Yeah I read the Mortenson article. I'm not buying it for a second. Cutler is good don't get me wrong, but c'mon. Cutler's agent was saying he is "special like Favre and Elway", which is what an agent is supposed to do. But then Mort starts talking about how the Favre comparison is uncanny, and that he agrees with Culter's agent. ROTFFLMAO. Let's get serious here people (I'm talking to you Mortenson). There are 3 first round QBs in this draft, and Cutler is the only one there. So he is milking it for all its worth. Mortenson was also talking about some "west coast scout" in his article. That was the other person whose quotes Mort was leaning heavily on. Talking about how "the secret is out" and all this. Sounds to me like the 49ers just want Cutler to get taken ahead of Williams.

So let me just say my piece about this. I know there is still lots of evaluation to do before we issue our final CDS grades, but none of the top 3 QBs in this draft are going to get a 9.0 or higher from me. None of them are lead pipe lock franchise signal callers.

I dont like Leinarts attitude, arm strength, or mobility, but isnt he a franchise signal caller?

There is just too much hype for these guys coming into this process. Leinart is expected to come in and be Jesus right away, and Young is expected to make people forget Randall Cunningham. The media buzz about these 3 top players is just too much for these guys to live up to. I think all will be good, but all will dissapoint.

Cutler, dosent have a lot to live up to, only his high picking so he might be in a good situation like Big Ben.

Late minute notes from yesterday's South Practice:

They are still raving about Thomas Howard's 4.45 speed, but (as I expected) no one is raving about his on-field performance.

Kelly Jennings has really done well this week (CB, Miami FL) great feet, great break on the ball, but not blazing speed.

DeAngelo has been described as a possible new LT...he has quite possibly solidified a spot as the #2 HB off the boards...possibly a top 10 guy now.

Darrell Hackney, says MK, does not have as strong an arm as David Garrard (I'd like to see that proved). He has been wild high a lot this week, but he looked good today. Just as MK was making those comments he threw a beautiful ball for a completion to Sinorice Moss.

Texas CB Cedric Griifn needs to "trust his skills more." They said he does not have great closing and finishing ability. Then he was shown picking off Hackney and then knocked down another pass later in the 11-on-11s.

Both DE-OLB high-target tweeners, Wimbley and Lawson have risen their stock this week, but neither has proven what their position should be, and neither has the DeMarcus Ware-type tweener magic surrounding him. Of the two, Lawson appears more likely to stay at DE.

Marcedes Lewis dominated the earlier practice session catching the ball and came into this week saying that he wanted to prove his physicality as a blocker in these practice sessions. He has done pretty well as a blocker, but can still get bigger and stronger for that purpose. He did drop a tough but cathable low liner a bit later in the 11-on-11s.

Sinorice could possibly be the 2nd WR off the boards they are sating now. (I personally doubt it, as this business is always a "what have you done lately" thing, and right now "lately" is the SB practices...) He is only a shade over 5'7", but Santana's good success in the NFL this year is negating some of that concern. Anybody have Santana's HT handy??

Brodie Croyle continues to throw well. He completed a very nice flat pass to Sinorice for a TD. He is showing that despite the injuries he still has enough mobility to scramble. They talked about the tailend of the year when his offensive line was decimated and excused a lot of his late-season problems there (and rightly so, IMHO...) They are saying if his medical all checks out at the combine and he workouts well he could wind up in the second round.

Shockley threw a nice TD in the flat to Andre Hall who has been pretty good all week in his own right. They Shcokley is a better QB prospect for sure than Michael Robinson, but he will still be in the developmental-QB category needing 3-4 years to fully develop if he makes a team. Shockley threw another nice completion to Aromashadu later in the session.

Hank baskett made a couple of VERY nice grabs in the session one for a high-flying jump ball TD over a DB and the other a tough slightly-wide ball on a crossing pattern that he was able to bring in.

Elvis Dumervil (as I have always said) is not a big-time NFL DE prospect. He has not regained his early-season form at these practices and looks beatup and tired out. He is being regarded as no better than a 4th rounder.

Anthony Mix and Ben Obamanu (SP?) are getting mixed reviews. The third Auburn WR--Aromashadu, has looked the best of the three.

Addai dropped two more catchable ball today, and has not elevated his standing this week with his hands, that's for sure.

This has been the poorest WR/HB hands week of any recent SB practice week. QBs are delivering, but receivers are not making enough grabs.

Position Observations from the Senior Bowl:

Improved their Stock:

QB
1) Brodie Croyle , Charlie Whitehurst , Micheal Robinson (as a potential RB / WR)

RB
DeAngelo Williams , Jerome Harrison , Jerius Norwood

FB
Laurence Vickers , Garrett Mills

TE
Marcedes Lewis, Joel Klofenstein ,

WR
Sinorice Moss , Demitrius Williams , Devin Aroushmadu , Maurice Stovall ,

OT
Charles Spencer , Daryn Colledge , Eric Winston , D'Brickashaw Ferguson

OG
Max Jean-Gilles , Taitusi Lutui

C
Nick Mangold

DE
Tamba Hali , Manny Lawson , Mark Anderson , Kamerion Wimbley, Daryl Tapp

DT
Broderick Bunkley , Gabe Watson , Jesse Mahelona ,Babatunde Oshinowo , Kyle Williams ,

LBChad Greenway , Abdul Hodge , Freddie Roach , Gerrius Wilkinson , Brian Iwuh

CB
Tye Hill , Kelly Jennings , Cedric Griffin , David Pittman ,

S
Daniel Bullocks , Jahmile Addea , Roman Harper , Anthony Smith, Pat Watkins

Hurt their Stock:

QB
Daryl Hackney , D.J. Shockley , Micheal Robinson

RB
Joseph Addai (slightly based on drops)

FB
nuetral

TE
T.J. Williams

WR
Derek Hagan , Martin Nance

OT
Albert Toeiana

OG
Davin Joseph

C
Ryan Cook , Marvin Philip

DE
Mathias Kiwanuka , Elvis Dumervil

DT
Dusty Dvoracek

LB
DeMeco Ryans , Spencer Havner, Clint Ingram

CB
Anwar Phillips , Will Blackmon

S
nuetral

Do you mean Broderick Bunkley? He is 6-3 300 pounds, he is an attacking, penetrating defensive tacke for a team that uses the 43 defense. You aren't the sharpest tack on the bulletin board if you think he is an outside linebacker. I haven't seen too many 300 pound outside linebackers have you?

OLB hybrid? You just made that up didn't you. LOL

Do you mean Brodrick Bunkley?