Who's gonna start at runningback you think?

Dayne for me

My boy Mike Bell.

.....is messing with my fantasy football team! I have both Tatum and Dayne.

My votes for Dayne too, I'm hoping he can resurrect his football career. The race right now seems to be between Tatum, Ron, and Mike. If Shanahan believes Tatum could carry the load for a whole season then I could see him as the starter.

I'm 100% convinced it will be Mike Bell. I've liked him as a prospect for over 2 years now, and ADavis can definitely attest to that. He's got everything that the Broncos are looking for in a starter.

I will say this: The Broncos can easily have the most productive RB by Committee that we have ever seen in the NFL. With Bell as the first and second down back, also a great receiver, then you have the speed guy in Tatum Bell, and Ron Dayne can come in during short yardage and goal line situations. 1 think that is for sure, Tom Coughlin changed Ron Dayne's life. Ever since that training camp in NY last year, Dayne has been in phenomenal shape and has really learned to move up and down the field North to South.

Scary talent.

P.S. Holy Sh*t did you guys see Jay Cutler?

I think it will be Mike Bell. On the thread where we projected our all-rookie team, I mentioned him as my sleeper pick long before anyone even knew he was on the Bronco roster. He's a perfect fit for the type of offense Denver runs. He's very much like Terrell Davis, except that Mike Bell is probably a bit stronger and has better balance. (TD might have been a touch faster on a straight line, but Mike Bell is just as quick.)

(Keep an eye on Tony Scheffler too. He might beat out the two guys ahead of him and be the top Denver TE when all is said and done this year.)

Like I said, Mike Bell

Broncos fans...

top needs for this offseason...?

This has been a need for many drafts we just have failed to address it, DT and DE!!! This year, barring a superstar RB or S falling we are going to draft a DT or DE. Maybe even the first 2 picks. The other needs like I said are RB, S, OL depth, and WR.

BF, what do you think of the new mock... Michael Bush as a complete surprise pick... I know Shanahan has had success with low-round backs, but no one expected them to go QB last year, and HB is a need (plus there are no real DL of value in this projection)...

Thoughts?

Good free agent signing...

Now we gotta have a good draft!

OG Cooper Carlisle? UFA? Will you be re-signing him? I'm interested in him for Seattle.
Good player? Benefits from system? Any answers would be appreciated....

Sam, what's the deal with Big Daddy Wilkinson? Did he report yet? Do you like the move? I wonder if he has anything left in the tank.

I wouldn't mind seeing Reggie Nelson plucked at 21 if he was there and a DE like Tim Crowder in round 2. Grab a DT in early third and a RT that fits our system later round 3.

Carlisle is a good player, a solid starter, but the Broncos won't be resigning him as we haev Chris Kuper or Montrae Holland to fill his spot.

Dave: Big Daddy is currently rumored to have been involved in another surgery, no one really knows whats going on with him or the current state of the trade.

Wilkinson Trade has been voided.

heres the story http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/DEN/10100410

see the thing about Wilkerson is that he never reports to TC or any offseason workout session. last year Saban let him get away with not showing up for offseason workouts. and he can't be traded unless he reports to camp with his new team. so I think he either plays for Miami or retires

Will Walker get his wish? What's happening up there in Denver? This used to be a place where players wanted to play.

More Bronco news...starting LT Matt Lepis has retired.

Broncos TE, Daniel Graham arrested for suspicion of criminal mischief and harassment.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008...raham-arrested/

Just hope that this offseason isn't as bad as last year's.

Lepsis retiring really hurts, and nyyjones people wanted to play in Denver when we were winning. Last season was our first losing season since 1999, the year after John Elway retired.

Denver has to look at these 3 players at 12 ands only these three! One will be there hopefully if not trade down. Kenny Phillips, Ryan Clady, and Keith Rivers. I dont like Conner. Laur may stay in school. Sedrick Ellis should be gone as well as Gholston. Now with Malcolm Jenkins not entering it means the Saints could very well go with Kenny which sucks.

I think people wanted to play with you when you had John Elway. Since he's left, Shanahan has proved to be remarkably inept in the talent evaluation area, and the Broncos may have overspent on more over-the-hill players than Dan Snyder.

I remember making a post some time back, Broncosfan713, that if I were running that team, instead of bringing in these old DTs, I would have started the young ones they have, who I think could pan out, if given some experience. I for one, am hoping your team improves, because I think a strong conference schedule sets you up better for the playoffs. However, your team is, IMO, quite aways from being good again.

Here are my observations of the Broncos:

Offense:

OL - It all starts up front, for all teams. And on your Oline you can start at LT, with Lepsis' retirement. The rest of your line is young, and for the most part, ordinary. I think OC is a weakness too.

WR & TE - Marshall is a definite keeper, big time. A real talent. Stokley must come back and be effective, but he's really best in the slot, not across from a No1, so you need another reliable WR. TE is okay...not great, but not a weakness either.

RB & FB - Other than Henry, who will be 30 in Oct, you have some good young backs. Overall, a team strength.

QB - I like Cutler, but like all young QBs, he still needs another year or two, but there's little you can do about that. The bigger need is a better OL in front of him, and a WR across from Marshall so Stokley can move to the slot.

Defense:

DL - Again, it all starts up front. I really like Dumervil, but you need a better, DE across from him big time. Marcus Thomas only needs more experience, IMO, to become a really good DT. I am not that high on Burton, and Mallard is too small for a DT. You need another DT.

LB - You need a MLB...period. DJ had a good year...statistically. However, he did not call the defenses very well, and is just not a natural MLB. He needs to move back outside where you had a big hole without him there. A MLB will really help that D.

DBs - Your starting corners are set, and good, the strength of your D. Your safeties are perhaps the biggest weakness, other than the DL.

ST - Punting is a big problem. And how much longer will Elam, who I've always like play? You need to get someone for the return game too.

All in all, you really need to have a good draft this year, or the Broncs could be in for a big slide. If you have a bust draft, it will take several more to catch up, and by then some of the good players you have now will be getting old. To maintain continuity and keep the bridge between veterans going, you must have a good draft. I would stop trying to hit the home run in FA, although I might target one or two players, but not at the cost of my future payroll, or on anymore old players who have seen there better days some time ago.

Now, that's how I see your team. How I see your front office situation is a bit different. I don't think Shanahan is a great talent evaluator. Overall, there aren't enough lower round players, or UDFAs making a real impact on your team that the better teams have. Shanahan made a good call on Cutler, IMO. But once he gets past the 1st round, his picks become questionable, IMO. He did hit on Thomas, but everyone knew the only thing that kept him from being a 1st rounder, were his off field issues. I believe the Broncos would be better served with a real GM, one that's adept at talent evaluation, and for Shanahan to stick to his real strength, which is coaching. IMO, he has too much on his plate to be truly effective in both areas. He should have some input, but the final personnel decisions need to be put in someone else's hands.

Just some observations from a Chargers fan...good luck next year, Broncosfan713.

Prospective 1st round picks for the Broncs according to The Denver Post.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_8070699

Thanks man, I appreciate your evaluations and extend a good luck back to the Bolts for next season.

You are 100% right on the evaluations of the lines, both are absolutely wretched and holding back the team. At oline, we have a couple of nice players but definitely no go to guys anymore especially if Nalen retires this offseason. Last draft we did take a left tackle from Notre Dame named Ryan Harris, I heard very little from him this last season but he does project as a classic Broncos linemen with quick feet and the ability to zone block. Our entire draft last year was on the dline(finally we spent some picks there). We took Jarvis Moss in the first round who unfortunately we were not able to see at all this season as he struggled with several injuries. Crowder looked somewhat decent this year but looks like his potential is much smaller than Moss's. Thomas is very raw and needs more experience/training.

This draft is extremely important. We have some solid talent but there are too many holes holding us back to make any kind of impact. A tackle is crucial in this draft(offensive and defensive), and hopefully Harris will come in and play well. We also are in dire need of a safety. Lynch is in his last year and Ferguson lacks the speed to play the free effectively(not to mention he's pretty old as well). Abdullah looks good sometimes, but is not a solid enough tackler at the moment to really be relied upon. If Kenny Phillips is available, we will most likely take him to shore up the safeties. We need a serviceable MLB so that DJ can move back over to OLB and become the star we all know he can be there.

Shanahan does make a lot of personnel decisions, but we do have a GM named Ted Sundberg who is supposed to have the most clout. Shanny is a good talent evaluator, but tries to get too cute sometimes with his selections/signings. Shanahan is actually very good on the 2nd day and with UDFA. Both Dumervil and Marshall(probably our 2 best players) were taken in the 4th round. We also have had back to back UDFA runningbacks lead the team in rushing(Mike Bell and Selvin Young). He has however, and this is were our team has gone directly south, done very poorly in the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds. the Broncos have had more 1st round busts than any team around. George Foster, Willie Middlebrooks, Ashley Lelie, I could go on and on, and even worse the 2nd round where only a few impact players have been taken since Elway was here. Shanny needs to stop trying to be cute and take the best player available and the positions of need.

The Broncos are 1 draft and 2 seasons away from being a good team again. Until then, the Chargers are in charge of this division. Hopefully we can get back to the days of a proud competitive AFC West. Good luck next season nyyjones.

I had forgotten about Jarvis Moss. I do like him. One thing that could really help your DBs, is a better pass rush, so his return, and perhaps another pass rushing DE later in the draft for the rotation/backup could really help. I do think you guys will take the S from Miami in the 1st, although he had a down year this year. He does have talent, and would be an upgrade there. Take care...talk to you later, Broncosfan713.

Bucs, Broncs again talking trade… Tampa Bay is reportedly talking to Denver about a possible deal that would land see WR Javon Walker move to the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers could offer draft picks for Walker, who spent most of last year nursing a knee problem, but the Broncos are believed to be looking for a veteran defensive tackle.

Would that be Chris Hovan from Tampa?

Would that be Chris Hovan from Tampa?

Would rather have Draft Picks lol

The Broncos, Miami Dolphins, Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints and Tampa Bay Buccaneers are all said to be interested in Shawn Rogers from Detroit. The Broncs are also said to be among the teams pursuing NY Jets DT Dewayne Robertson.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008...n-lions-rogers/

The Broncos sign Keary Colbert

With Thomas' drug bust yesterday, DT again looks like a big need in Ponyland. He was a gamble to begin with, and now we see why. Where have you gone Maurice Clarrett?

I heard he was last seen with Amy Crac/ um Winehouse!

BREAKING NEWS:
Brandon Marshall has severed an artery, vein and nerve along with tendons to 5 muscles in his arm after slipping and falling in a resort while vacationing with his parents, it will take up to 3 months for him to recover from his arm surgery.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3310438

LOl stop posting this everywhere I saw this like 2 or 3 Nights ago lol

Hahaha I am going to post it again, suck on that Brent...

Dont make me send Stripe After you HAHA! Enough Said!

Don't make me get White Goodman to slay Stripe again!!!!

Stripe will live forever Don't start with him!

OUCH THATS GOTTA HURT

http://www.gazette.com/sports/bailey_34612...outouvides.html

Not as bad as signing Kwame Harris!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Signing Kwame Harris is better then signing nobody!

It is actually just wasting money for a Huge Bust, that could have been used elsewhere. Al Davis could bring Art Shell back to play O-line and he would be a better signing than Harris.

Your wrong jerry14 i tell you wrong!!! Tom Cable and Kiffy played a HUGE role in the signing ofHarris and we can only keep him for 1 year for 3 mill, If he is a bust we let him go, If he is good then we restructure his contract. Harris might actually make something of himself in the ZBS he is athletic enough and his problems lie mentally. Tom Cable is an offensive line genius who cut our sacks down to half last season and whose O-line was a HUGE reason we ranked #6 in rushing. SO SUCK IT JERRY14!

hey broncos fans what do you all think of jay cutlers comments about marshall? champ bailey said phillip rivers hadn't earned the right to talk trash too jay now does jay have the right to publicly trash a teammate like that? and do you think shanahan knew before hand

I love Jay's Comments. See Savage the difference is Cutler is speaking about his own team mate and taking a leadership role. He is taking control of the team, and Brandon has admitted he needs to grow up. River's talk was just to trash talk and defame other players, Cutler is letting Marshall and everyone on the team know we need to gel we can;t have this stuff! We can;t be the Bengals, We need everyone to step up! Cutler wanted to learn some of the new passing game with Marshall, and now he has to wait. So there is a clear difference between the two Qb's. Cutler wants to get things rolling and he wants people to know they need to step up. River's was just talking **** because he has a big ego and he has crapped in the playoffs for a good ass team. Cutler does not nearly have the same talent, so Rivers currently is not a Great QB and the type of player who people respect, and should be talking trash until he does something with the talent. Cutler doesnt trash talk other players on other Teams. He keeps his comments about his own players in house. CONTINUE TO STEP UP CUTLER THE CHOSEN ONE!

I love Cutler taking a leadership role and calling Marshall out. Marshall and Cutler are the future and if both aren't at their absolute best, the Broncos will have a rough stretch of years...

Projected Denver Depth Chart for Training Camp

Depth Chart
QB: Jay Cutler, Pat Ramsey, Darrell Hackney
HB: Travis Henry, Selvin Young, Ryan Torain, Andre Hall, Anthony Alridge
FB: Cecil Sapp, Peyton Hillis, Mike Bell
WR: Brandon Marshall, Samie Parker, Eddie Royal, Taylor Jacobs, Rod Smith, Marquay McDaniel
WR: Keary Colbert, Darrell Jackson, Brandon Stokley, Glenn Martinez, Carlton Brewster. Lorne Sam
TE: Daniel Graham, Tony Scheffler, Nate Jackson
LT: Ryan Clady, Ryan Harris, Mitch Erickson
LG: Ben Hamilton, Chris Kuper, Isaac Snell
C: Casey Weigmann, Tom Nalen,
RG: Montrae Holland, Korey Lichtensteiger
RT: Erik Pears, PJ ALexander. Tyler Polumbus

DE: John Engelberger, Jarvis Moss, Tim Crowder, Larry Birdine
DT: Marcus Thomas, Kenny Peterson, Carlton Powell
DT: Dewayne Robertson, Alvin McKinley, Josh Mallard, Steven Harris
DE: Elvis Dumervil, Ebenezer Ekuban, Paul Carrington
OLB: D.J. Williams, Jamie Winborn, Louis Green
MLB: Niko Koutouvides, Spencer Larsen, Jordan Beck
OLB: Boss Bailey, Nate Webster, Wesley Woodyard
CB: Champ Bailey, Karl Paymah, Christian Morton
SS: John Lynch, Marlon McCree, Josh Barrett, Roderick Rogers, Marviel Underwood
FS: Hamza Abdullah, Marquand Manuel
CB: Dre Bly, Dominique Foxworth. Jack Williams

K: Matt Prater, Garrett Hartley
P: Paul Paulescu, Brett Kern
KR: Andre Hall, Anthony Alridge
PR: Eddie Royal, Glenn Martinez
LS: Mike Leach