Post anything Jets draft related here.

I think they have played better than expected, but thats also because everyone expects them to stink.

I could see them pulling out 6-7 wins, they gotta get younger.

How is the 3-4 defense looking?

Based on the early returns, I think a lot of teams are kicking themselves for not considering Mangini as a head coach themselves. Doing a much better job, IMO, than most of the more publicized and supposedly "well respected" coaches that ended up in various cities between last year and this year. I also like the job Childress is doing in Minnesota. Two good coaches, IMO.

I gotta say, from what I've seen, I'm fairly impressed with Pennington. With his banged up shoulders, it's really impressive that he's still able to hit his marks. I can honestly say that I wrote him off after last years injury, but when healthy, this guy still has the arm to take over a game.

Actually, LionsFan, it's not really his arm that he "takes over games" with. It's his natural leadership and cerebral abilities, that to me, seperate him from QBs who have way better arms. In fact, his arm has never been anything to write about, except that it's always been weak compared to most NFL QBs. But, as Yogi use to say, "The game is 90% half mental," and that is where I believe Pennington shines way more than most QBs. He has a "natural feel" for the game, and although his arm isn't great, he has great touch, and throws an extemely catchable ball almost every single time. I too thought his career was over, and although I'm not a Jets fan, I'm glad he's back and doing well.

I think Pennington has a great arm. I don't think he's ever been known as the "howitzer-type" but he definitely puts the ball on the numbers with precision every time, and he has been known for his excellent completion percentages. That to me is a great arm, hit your guys where they don't have to fight for the ball. And yeah, he's also very good at reading defenses and picking defenses apart from the line of scrimmage. As long as they aren't asking him to throw 25+ yard passes, he may still have some life left in that career of his.

Pennington? Great arm?

the only issue with Pennington and it's always been this way is his health, he's a very good QB even without good arm strengh. I've been a big supporter of arm strengh in QBs but accuracy is far more important. Brees is a good example of this

If you don't think Pennington's arm strength isn't an issue than you're being naive. It affects the team's offensive game plan and it allows defenses to beat the crap out of our WRs short and dare Pennington to go long.

Pennington is a game-manager that usually keeps the Jets in ball-games, but the Jets will never go far in the playoffs partly due to Pennington'ss physical limitatations.

And Brees has a better arm than Pennington...

Pennington is going to have to play well the next few weeks or else Clemens could get a look. His accuracy and decision-making, his two strengths, weren't there vs the Browns.

I know it's November- but help me out- Jets BIGGEST needs? I'm not trying to poke fun, but they seem like they could use upgrades at a LOT of positions...

Kerry Rhodes is a beast, BTW...

No Jets fans after the biggest win in the Mangini era?????

Coach of the year?

NEEDS:

NT
DE
OLB
RB
RT
CB
FS
FB

Mangini's super and Rhodes is a pro-bowler.

Thanks, GGI....

Do you think they'll stick with the 4-3 base for next year, or will Mangini try to get the personnel to run a 3-4?

RT? Clement has been solid, no? And Adrian Jones is a servicable backup, right?

FS? Erik Coleman's okay there, no? With Eric Smith for depth?

Just wondering...

Oh the Jets are going to stick with the 3-4. Eventually once, we mast the 3-4 I'm sure we'll see some 4-3 looks mixed in but from here on out we're a 3-4 team.

Clement is a JAG. A better run-blocker than pass-protector as the Jets are forced to leave TE Chris Baker in to block a lot. They really want to utilize Baker in the passing game so more so I can see them going RT first day or through Free Agency. Jones hasn't done much to impress Mangini.

Coleman had his first good game last week, but earlier in the year he was benched in favor of Derrick Strait who ended up being cut so...
And Smith is one of Mangini's boys but he is an atrocious tackler...

What do you make of the HB situation...

They have a bunch of mediocre/unspectacular backs, but no one who can carry the whole load (a true #1)...

Does Mangini think he can build a strong team without a true #1 big-time HB, and rather a commitee of role players? (Before Dillion and Maroney, the Pats won a couple of SB's without a marquee back- and the Jets ARE 5-4 right now...)

Or do you think they'll go after a big-time guy in FA or the draft?

My take: I don't see how you spend a 4th rounder on Barlow and they go out and use your first rounder on a HB... I think Mangini is going to use the Pats approach, and not go after a star for the backfield (Adrian Peterson, Marshawn Lynch).

Right-o. I call it the Vikings approach...Their main concern was surrounding the RB with the talent he needed to be able to succeed, spending big bucks on the best G in the game and one of the best blocking FBs in Richardson. And then, they signed a backup RB for lesser, who is now one of the better backs in the league. Jets won't spend that type of money but my point is I believe the Jets' focus will be surround the RB position with more help rather than upgrading the RB position. I see the Jets upgrading the RT position and finding a compliment RB to Washington such as local boy Brian leonard(who can also serve as our blocking FB) or Tony Hunt. Barlow seems to be playing better as he's becoming familiar with the offense, but his role is not secure. The Jets would save upwards of 2 million cutting Barlow and if Cedric Houston can ever learn to pick up a blitz, he would be ok as a cheaper replacement(to go along with Washington and the drafted RB).

So I believe you're right, I don't see the Jets spending a first round pick on Petersen/Lynch.

In Free Agency, look for the Jets to raid the Patriots. Asante Samuel has a very good chance of coming to NY to play for his ex- DB coach and defensive coordinator. Daniel Graham, Patrick Pass- any Patriots players- have a solid shot of coming to New York.

I'm sure like many other teams, the Jets would LOVE to get Adalius Thomas, but I'm not sure the Jets could win that bidding war.

As mentioned above, if a better FA RT is out there, they'll address that. Leonard Davis? Mike Gandy?

The Jets will continue to bring in DL and try to strike gold like they've done with the likes of Bobby Hamilton, Kimo von Oelhoffen, CJ Mosley, Kenyonta Marshall, Moore...Any big bodies that are FAs(Terdell Sands?) or get cut the Jets will look at...

And also, the Jets have been scouring the waiver wire for a ture blocking fullback since our OC Schottenheimer came from an offense that depended on great lead blocking from Lorenzo Neal.

The Jets will have some cap-room and I fully expect them to be active as Mangini continues to put his stamp on this team.

And don't count out Washington as a featured back. The Jets gave him a 2nd round grade after his junior year, but didn't have a good year his senior year because he couldn't participate in the offseason workout program because he needed to get a job and support his family. The Jets realized he had talent, and stuck with the kid despite the down year. And learning from Curtis Martin is sure helping in his development...

no way they have to make the playoffs and that won't happen, Sean Payton is coach of the year so far BTW

they are headed in the right direction though, the AFC East will be a very tough divison next year. NE is always good, NYJ is rising fast, MIA will also be good

Nick,

Our traffic usually doesn't boom big time until January.

PLAYOFFS!? Beat the 2-13 Raiders and you're in!

Kerry Rhodes= biggest pro bowl snub.

Eric Mangini= Coach of the year.

Any Jets fans around? What is the feeling for the draft? They can do a lot with three picks from #25-37. Will they look for some personnel to better fit their 3-4 defense? How about a big back to team up with Leon Washington? Another WR? Even a TE? RT? CB?

OL/DL first round...

Belichick's took players that played along the lines with the first picks in his first 5 drafts with the Patriots.

What exactly are we looking at here, GGI?

OLB: Bryan Thomas
MLB: Jonathan Vilma
MLB: Eric Barton
OLB: Victor Hobson
DE: Kimo Von Olhoffen
NT: Dewyane Robertson
DE: Shaun Ellis

Is this correct? And with that, what are we looking for? Robertson to move to DE and a need at NT? A DE upgrade of Kimo? MLB depth? An upgrade at OLB for Victor Hobson?

When I look at it, I think CB might be your greatest need. Miller's strictly a nickel/KR, Dyson always gets hurt, and Hank Poteat is well... ...Hank Poteat. David Barrett and Drew Coleman aren't exactly quality starters either... Mangini will just Belichick it (remember Randall Gay) and go with a bunch of scrubs at CB because he has an awesome safety and comes up with great schemes for his DB's?

As for offense, RT seems like a need with Anthony Clement as a FA. Brandon Moore and Pete Kendall are solid at the OG spots, though, right?

Brian Leonard fits in so well it's scary- he's better than Askew and Hodgins- both of whom are free agents.

A TE is possible, no? Posciack will return but Sean Ryan and Chris Baker aren't exactly a threatening 1-2 punch.

And WR... Cotchery is a legit #2, I guess Coles is a decent#1, Brad Smith for gimmicks, Tim Dwight if he's healthy is an OK slot guy I guess (although he is Tim Dwight), I wouldn't be against grabbing a WR high, even Rd. 1 if you like Meachem, Sidney Rice, etc....

And with all that said the problem with your team is at QB. Pop-gun Pennington will never lead the Jets to a Super Bowl. I hope Kellen Clemens can... If not- QB is a need as well.

At least you have the Mangenius!

What are your thoughts on all this?

Here's a post I made at a Jet site I mod at which examines trends in the Patriots' drafting strategy in order to try to predict what Mangini will do...

"Here's a look at the Patriots' draft history...

2000
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
2 46 Adrian Klemm G Hawaii
3 76 J.R. Redmond FB Arizona State
4 127 Greg Randall T Michigan State
5 141 Dave Stachelski TE Boise State
5 161 Jeff Marriott G Missouri
6 187 Antwan Harris DB Virginia
6 199 Tom Brady QB Michigan
6 201 David Nugent DE Purdue
7 226 Casey Tisdale DE New Mexico
7 239 Patrick Pass FB Georgia

2001
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 6 Richard Seymour DE Georgia
2 48 Matt Light T Purdue
3 86 Brock Williams CB Notre Dame
4 96 Kenyatta Jones T South Florida
4 119 Jabari Holloway TE Notre Dame
5 163 Hakim Akbar OLB Washington
6 180 Arther Love TE South Carolina State
6 200 Leonard Myers CB Miami
7 216 Owen Pochman K Brigham Young
7 239 T.J. Turner OLB Michigan State

2002
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 21 Daniel Graham TE Colorado
2 65 Deion Branch WR Louisville
4 117 Rohan Davey QB Louisiana State
4 126 Jarvis Green DE Louisiana State
7 237 Antwoine Womack RB Virginia
7 253 David Givens WR Notre Dame

2003
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 13 Ty Warren DE Texas A&M
2 36 Eugene Wilson FS Illinois
2 45 Bethel Johnson WR Texas A&M
4 117 Dan Klecko DT Temple
4 120 Asante Samuel CB Central Florida
5 164 Dan Koppen C Boston College
6 201 Kliff Kingsbury QB Texas Tech
7 234 Spencer Nead FB Brigham Young
7 239 Tully Banta-Cain OLB California
7 243 Ethan Kelley NT Baylor

2004
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 21 Vince Wilfork DT Miami
1 32 Ben Watson TE Georgia
2 63 Marquise Hill DE Louisiana State
3 95 Guss Scott FS Florida
4 113 Dexter Reid SS North Carolina
4 128 Cedric Cobbs RB Arkansas
5 164 P.K. Sam WR Florida State
7 233 Christian Morton CB Illinois

2005
Rd Sel# Player Pos. School
1 32 Logan Mankins G Fresno State
3 84 Ellis Hobbs CB Iowa State
3 100 Nick Kaczur T Toledo
4 133 James Sanders SS Fresno State
5 170 Ryan Claridge OLB Nevada-Las Vegas
7 230 Matt Cassel QB Southern California
7 255 Andy Stokes TE William Penn

2006
Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School
1 21 Maroney, Laurence RB 6-0 216 Minnesota
2 36 Jackson, Chad WR 6-1 212 Florida
3 86 Thomas, Dave TE 6-3 239 Texas
4 106 Mills, Garrett TE 6-1 227 Tulsa
4 118 Gostkowski, Stephen K 6-2 210 Memphis
5 136 O'Callaghan, Ryan G 6-7 343 California
6 191 Mincey, Jeremy DE 6-4 258 Florida
6 205 Stevenson, Dan G 6-5 297 Notre Dame
6 206 Smith, Le Kevin DT 6-3 315 Nebraska
7 229 Andrews, Willie CB 5-9 182 Baylor

Draft day trades:
2000: New England traded its seventh-round choice (No. 212) to San Francisco for the 49ers' 2001 sixth-round draft choice. San Francisco selected Tim Rattay, QB, Louisiana Tech.

2001:
-8. -- Detroit Lions traded their second-round (No. 48) selection to New England for the Patriots second- (No. 50) and sixth-round (No. 173) selections. New England selected Matt Light, G, Purdue. Detroit selected Dominic Raiola, C, Nebraska and Jason Glenn, LB, Texas A&M.

-13. -- New England Patriots traded their third-round (No. 69) selection to Minnesota for the Vikings third- (No. 86) and fourth-round (No. 119) selections. Minnesota selected Eric Kelly, DB, Kentucky. New England selected Brock Williams, DB, Notre Dame and Jabari Holloway, TE, Notre Dame.

-15. -- San Diego Chargers traded their fourth-round (No. 96) selection to New England for the Patriots fourth- (No. 112) and fifth-round (No. 139) selections. New England selected Kenyatta Jones, G, South Florida. San Diego selected Carlos Polk, LB, Nebraska and Zeke Moreno, LB, Southern California.

-17. -- New England Patriots traded their fifth-round (No. 149) selection to Detroit for the Lions sixth- (No. 180) and seventh-round (No. 216) selections. Detroit selected Mike McMahon, QB, Rutgers. New England selected Arther Love, TE, South Carolina State and Owen Pochman, K, Brigham Young.

-18. -- New England Patriots traded their sixth-round (No. 170) selection to Jacksonville for the Jaguars 2002 fifth-round selection. Jacksonville selected Chad Ward, G, Washington.

2002:
- 6. Washington traded its first-round (No. 21) selection to New England for the Patriots first- (No. 32), third- (No. 96) and seventh-round (No. 234) choices. New England selected Daniel Graham, te, Colorado. Washington selected Patrick Ramsey, qb, Tulane, traded (No. 96) to Baltimore and selected Greg Scott, de, Hampton.

-2. Denver traded its fourth-round (No. 117) choice to New England for the Patriots fourth- (No.131) and fifth-round (No. 144) choices. New England selected Rohan Davey, qb, LSU. Denver selected Sam Brandon, db, UNLV and Herb Haygood, wr, Michigan State.

-4. New England traded its fifth-round (No. 168) choice to Dallas for the Cowboys seventh-round (No. 237) and 2003 fifth round choices. Dallas selected Ralph Hunter, db, Virginia Union. New England selected Antwoine Womack, rb, Virginia.

2005:
-Raiders get: New England's sixth-round pick (No. 175) and selected DT Antajj Hawthorne.
Patriots get: Oakland's seventh-round pick (No. 230), which they used to select QB Matt Cassel, and its fifth-round pick in 2006.

-Packers get: New England's sixth-round pick (No. 195), which they used to select WR Craig Bragg, and seventh-round pick (No. 246), which it used to select G Will Whitticker.
Patriots get: Green Bay's sixth-round pick (No. 175), which it quickly traded.

-Lions get: New England's fifth-round pick (No. 145) and selected QB Dan Orlovsky, and a sixth-round pick (No. 206), which Detroit used to select DE Jonathan Goddard.
Patriots get: Detroit's fourth-round pick in 2006.

-Ravens get: New England's second-round pick (No. 64 overall) and selected T Adam Terry.
Patriots get: Baltimore's third-round pick (No. 84), which they used to select CB Ellis Hobbs, sixth-round pick (No. 195), which they later traded, and a third-round pick in the 2006 draft.

2006:
Patriots Get
# 2nd round, No. 36: Chad Jackson, WR, Florida
Packers Get
# 2nd round, No. 52: Greg Jennings, WR, Western Michigan
# 3rd round, No. 75: Jason Spitz, C, Louisville

*Info from CNNSI and ESPN.*

I didn't complete all my research because it was getting tedious but there are some trends here.

#1- Belichick's first 5 years with Patriots he chose guys who play along the line with his first pick in the draft.
#2- Belichick isn't afraid to trade up if he is really in love with a player, but overall, he seems more inclined to trade DOWN- ESPECIALLY 2nd day(where its even more of a crapshoot)
#3- Belichick also traded picks in the 2nd day for future picks that were a round higher(to compensate for the year difference)

It's been only one year but Mangini has already done some of these things:
1)2 first rounders- 2 offensive linemen
2)Traded down out of the 2nd and 3rd round picks.
3)Got a 2nd in the following year(this year) while trading down in the 2nd round.

Am I reaching on some of the trends? Maybe. But I thought examining the Patriots' track record with drafts would be a good tool to look at in trying to predict what Mangini will do"

The Jets went 2 OL in last years draft, traded down out of several picks, while accumulating a future pick(this year) So I think I'm onto something...

As far as DL goes, an upgrade over Kimo is a must. He's done. Robertson was playing at a borderline pro-bowl level in some games at the end of the season. He's gotten a bad rap for people who have only watched him early, but Jet fans are very happy with his progress and think that's his long-term position.

OL side, yeah, Clement is moreso a backup. Moore and Kendall can start another year but they're definately upgradable guyas. Guys that can play OG and RT like Blalock and Sears will get looks.

And of course, Leonard is a very good option.

Chris Baker's a very good TE. he was kept in-line to block most of the year because the Jets emphasized keeping Penny upright but he's a very underrated TE. Our WRs are fine but if the absolute best player available in Round 1 is a WR, I wouldn't be totally against it because Coles is getting his @$$ beat out there and won't be around much longer.

Most importantly, when doing Jet mock, really emphasize character with the guys the Jets pick. Look for guys who are extremely intelligent- film junkies with great character and leadership skills. Guys who just live and die football.

In condraft's latest mock, you guys have Moss. As a Gator fan, I love Moss but because he has off-field issues, I don't see him being an option for the Jets.

Good job GGI.

One point when talking about Belichick is that he also trusts certain college coaches. Two being Urban Meyer and Pat Hill of Fresno. He reached for Logan Mankins on the recommendation of Pat Hill in the late first round. that decision smells like a rose. I don't know if Mangini has those close ties with college coaches like BB.

Great stuff, GGI. Really informative, well-thought-out. Again, great stuff.

-Belichick loves his TE's- he's drafted 8 since 2000!

-While I love the research, and definitely see where you're coming from, Mangini is NOT Bill Belichick.

-I think the Jarvis Moss point is a valid one. My team (Seattle) has been drafting only high-character guys since Tim Ruskell came into power. I can definitely see, with last years draft class, that the Jets are implementing a similar strategy in terms of guys who love football and don't have off-field issues. With that said, I still think Mangini would go after a great talent with some off-the-field history, given the prospect proves himself during the interview process. To that end, when I look at the mock draft, I think Moss to the Jets is something that is NOT likely to occur for the reasons you stated plus the fact that the Steelers, Cowboys, or Patriots would probably take him before 25 if his off-the-field concerns don't scare teams away.

Again, great stuff GGI.

THOMAS JONES TIME!

As a Patriot follower, I still can't bring myself to dislike the JETS. Division rival--always in the playoff hunt--- see each other twice a year---Still, I think that my feeling for the JETS is because way back when I predicted that the Patriots would draft Curtis Martin rb Pittsburgh in the third round. Martin played in the opener for Pitt (which I saw on tv) and ran for 200+ yards and 2 touchdowns. In game two he was injured in the 1st half and did not return for the rest of the season. Off a gut feeling and seeing one game, I projected that this prospect ranked #161 (5th-6th round) would be the Patriots pick in round #3 That was one of my first "I had it" and I have since always been a huge Curtis Martin fan. With that said, let me give you a day one scenario for the JETS. 1) pick #25===Lawrence Timmons olb florida state 2) pick #37===Sidney Rice wr South Carolina 3) pick#59===Eric Wright cb UNLV 4) pick #88===Turk Mcbride dt Tennessee. That's how I see it at this timee and I hope I have been fair with filling what I see are some areas of concern.---thanks for listening---Rich from Neport

1-6 right now... Maybe they'll be able to get McFadden...

As much as the Jets had success last year(especially on the road), this year is a different kettle of fish---and this fish smells bad. I think that the Jets have been victimized for inexperience by the head coach as well as the all out blame for exposing videogate which has backfired completely and made the Patriots a stronger team and exposed the Jets to every other coach in the league who had been using those videotaping methods. In addition, Mangini does not seem to have the confidence of his players who I believe think he is a grandstander trying to make a huge name for himself. His indecision over replacing Chad Pennington has further eroded the locker room support and I would not be surprised to see this as a HUGE failure costing Mangini his job within a year. Bill Belichick had pleaded with Mangini to wait for a head coaching job because he didn't feel that Eric was ready at that time--not enough dues paid or maybe not the right situation--one which Belichick himself accepted then refused. My concern would be that after videogate---can anyone trust him---or will that forever be his legacy---tried to expose his ex-coach--broke the "silent" code among coaches--and can't get a job because of his ambition--thanks for listening--rich from newport

It's all on Mangini this year. I don't blame Chad for sucking- the man's had two shoulder surgeries. He has been physically limited for years. But when the coach says all spots are up for competition and then anoints Pennington starter right off the bat beginning of the season and sticks by him to a fault, there's a problem. Clemens will take his lumps but the Jets franchise will not move forward until Pennington is removed as starter. And the 3-4 defense is a joke. It was a joke last year but the Jets had a weak schedule and I don't know- just lucky. Sutton needs to be fired and the Jets either have to do some serious player overhaul on that side of the ball or we have to go back to the 4-3.

I know this is being asked alot, but I wanted to get you guys take on it. Why is Chad "INT" Pennington still starting for the Jets?

Is it because Mangini hasn't got the balls to make the big decision and pull him? Or is it that he's seen Clemens in practice and knows that he sucks so badly that he's even worse than Chad?

He doesn't want to make Chad look like the scapegoat and he may fear he will lose the locker room if he benches Chad since he's so well-liked. Clemens is taking 1st team snaps this week apparently so...that's good.

...and speaking of which, Mangini has named Clemens his starter this week.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3085552

What do the Jets fans think about this? And everyone else? Is this the best way to win today, or are the Jets looking at next season? Will Chad ever start in the NFL again? Should this change have been made sooner?

Once again, a Patriot fan will answer the question!!!---Eric Mangini was at least two(2) years away from even being considered for a head coaching position in the NFL. However, THE JETS JETS JETS thought that the Mangini/Belichick association meant more than just a handshake at mid=field after the game. MANGINI IS NOT MANGENIOUS but is an excellent defensive co-ordinator who became a HEAD COACH TOO SOON. He is going to live with videogate the rest of his career and my personal opinion is for him to go to the collegiate ranks before attempting to return to the pros!!!---thanks for listening ---rich from newport

Wow.. David Harris had 24 tackles against the Redskins (20 solo). Was this just a fluke game? Or is this guy for real..?

Jets fans love it. Pennington was a liability and Clemens gives the Jets the best chance to win now and in the future. Pennington will be traded in the off-season to a team like the Bears, Vikings, or Chiefs and compete for a starting job. And yes, it should have been made sooner.

"Mangenius" was a bit much but he did a phenomenal job in his first season. I've been really impressed with his drafting. D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Nick Mangold, Kellen Clemens, Brad Smith, Leon Washington, Darrelle Revis, and David Harris- the Jets have established a solid core in two drafts. The problem is rookies cannot be counted on to make that much of an immediate impact and Mangini has tried to duplicate Belicheck's "penny-pinching" ways to a fault(Pete Kendall Saga) The Jets also have been burned because they haven't opened up their wallets in free agency. Also, Mangini is starting to transition to the 3-4, but his stubbornness in using it when he has 4-3 personnel has killed the Jets this year. Lastly, he's got to lighten up a little bit because I think he wears his players out too much in training camp and the players don't really like playing for him. He's trying to copy the Patriots' way of building when in reality, the Patriots got a lot of breaks in their team building process.

Viedogate is already over..

And Mangini won't fit at college- doesn't have the people skills to be a solid recruiter.

No, because he had like 18 tackles the previous week. Vilma's a goner at the end of the season. Harris is for real.

I've been arguing with my friend that Darren McFadden should and will become a Jet after this season. Anyone have any thoughts?

What a steal David Harris has turned out to be. I wish the Lions would have pulled the trigger on him instead of Drew Stanton.

If ever the term "football player" was used, he is the shining example of it. They guy just knows the game in and out.....

Hmm. boy genius D-Coordinator lacking in people skills, has some initial success, forces his system on talent that might not fit it and struggles down the road, who dies that remind me of... Belichek in his 1st job in Cleveland, am I the onlyn one who sees this?!!?!

Bill that's a great point... I never thought of that...

I think he is. I thought he was a great pick. I actually think the Jets' past two drafts have been among the best in the league. They're a team with a lot of potential at a few positions. Clemens has looked good in his first 2 starts. He has a way to go, but I like what I see so far. He's quite the upgrade over Chad, Jets needed a guy like Clemens for about 5 years. I love the WR's and Chris Baker is becoming a really good TE. Revis was a fantastic pick and I'm glad they traded up for him. They have a good line, and TJ has a couple more years in him. I'd love for them to get McFadden but I think they'll go defense.

I agree that the drafting has improved lately and Clemens has looked good, but to quote a former Jets coach, "Lets Put Away the Annointing Oils." he might be the answer but Jay Schroeder drew comparisons to Elway for about 2 years, I'd advise getting a 2nd tier QB in the middle rounds, and going D-Line and O-Line early.

You are 1-8 with a very difficult schedule remaining--The draft picks that you shout about --I agree with--D'brick, D Harris, but most important was Nick Mangold--Bill Belichick said that he was the best prospect in the entire draft--AND I will include Bill Belichick's BPA from another draft Jonathan Vilma--but he wants out of NY--You have drafted as well as you could BUT BUT BUT--you have not taken that draft material and molded it into a TEAM--TOO MANY INDIVIDUALS--WITH THE BIGGEST ONE BEING MANGENIOUS--The JETS JETS JETS do not have a snowball's chance this season and NEED NEED NEED a coaching change--But as long as Mangini is your Head Coach then the Patriots will play above the call of duty every time they play--twice a year--thanks for listening--rich from newport

Congrats on the win today Jets! Thanks for the help.

Jets fans...

What do you all think about giving Byron Leftwich a shot? He'd be cheap...

It has been reported that Brian Urlacher's agents told the Bears that if they don't rework his contract by the opening of FA that he wants to be traded.

Would you guys want Urlacher for Vilma straight up?