Most Texans fans have tunnel vision right now with David Carr and his apparent lack of ability to consistently move our offense. I however still see glaring needs at the interior line spots and too many injured oline that is truly causing the problem. But patience is wearing thin and IF CARR CAN'T GET IT TOGETHER SOON well I guess we will look for a QB in the draft. If that is the case I would like to se them wait until the 2nd or 3rd (wherever he will be projected on draft day) and take either Kevin Kolb or Troy Smith. Just my 2 cents.

Oh and Demeco Ryans is an absolute beast.

Yes, injuries have hurt your O-Line this year...

and yes, agree on Ryans- beast. DROY probably. And Andre Johnson is also a beast- pro bowl?

I don't know, give Carr a year with a real O-line, then judge, no?

Can you give me a list of needs in order right now for these Texans? Thanks BigB...

I am not judging Carr right now just been frustrated that is all. I actually understand the situation better than most around here.

Ok Needs......What isn't a need?

1a FS
1b CB
2 C
3 RG
4 RB
5 WLB
6 DT

What do you think of the latest mock, Big B? Fit the needs or can't pass on Peterson...???

I have not decided yet. I guess I am satisfied. Really, I want to see the Texans pick later in the draft. If that happens Peterson may not be an option, and even if he is I am not sure if Kubiak will want to take him. McCauley is ok i guess, hopefully he is not another Philip Buchanon, and I don't know enough about the kid from USC to form an opinion yet. Is he a better prospect than Dan Mozes?

Well, since about 3:30pm yeserday I feel like I have been punched in the stomach repeatedly non stop for over 24 hours now. This loss has got to be the worst one that I have ever felt. This one is defitnantly going to linger for a long time. I can't even think straight right now.

Mario Williams looking more and more like a mistake

David Carr isn't as bad as the Texans make him look. They did lose the run game this year, Domanick Davis is a stud when he's on the field. Mario Williams could be really good and that team was a lot worse on defense than they were on offense. Although I wouldn't have passed up on Reggie Bush of all players because Houston still could have done with Reggie what the Saints are doing with him. However, with a new coach coming in and needing a bigger spark on defense, I do understand the Mario Williams pick. Especially when the reports are that Super Mario could be like Julius Peppers, who is a ridiculous player. I was impressed with the Texans' draft though, and while they will have another high pick, there are reasons to be optimistic about the team.

I don't think they should let Carr go. They need to add some veteran defensive players this off season (Adalius Thomas, Lance Briggs, Asante Samuel are apparantly free agents) to that team and help out the offensive line, things could get a lot better for Houston. They've lost some close games this year and have won some big ones (sweeping Jacksonville).

First off if you are registered sign in so I know who i am talking to. Second, you can't even say that for at the very least the end of nxt season. Third Mario has been battling a bad foot injury since week 6 or 7. 4th don't verbal vomit here in this forum something you heard in the media, decide for yourself and come at me with something a little less vague.

I think at this point most fans are just numb. All I know is that we have too many holes on this team and we still may not improve much more next season. I think the thing that ticks me off most is the false gold that we were sold By Charlie Casserly. He ruined this team for at least one more season and he is not even here anymore.

bigbrewster,
i agree with you that Carr is not as bad as the texans make him look. i dont think we can pass on Peterson, i know Davis will be back, but he can get banged up very easily. They must have a RB to try to take pressure off of Carr, assuming he is still here(which according to todays chronicle he wont be). i dont know any decent free agent QBs this year, plummer with old coach again?
i think the team needs are
1 Peterson-a big power back to be change of pace with Davis.
2 FS
3 CB
4 OL (see how some young guys develop and others return from injury)
5 DL
6 LB
they must adress atleast 1 hole via free agency and upgrade another.
Texans fans dont necessarily expect a playoff contender or even an 8-8 but they must be in games in 4th quarters and be competitive.
i would not have drafted the way texans did but i CAN see their logic, the part i didnt agree on is Mario had 4.5 sacks in ACC play last year(that suxs for an overall #1).

Cassrely is the worst thing to happen to Houston Football. I know an old lady in India that is better than him. and also, what team lets a guy make draft or any other decisions when he is about to leave???????? the texans deserve a few 2-14, 1-15 seasons for that, the fans dont.

The reason why I have not put RB as my #1 priority is that I am not convinced that the Texans do. I do not want to have another giant let down like last year.
Your comments about any players college stats are moot at this point. These kids are all in the NFL now and Mario Williams will be a great DE within the next few years. I thought that the Texans should draft Bush and I know plenty of people that wanted Vince, but the fact is that who we picked in that draft would have made little to no difference in the overall results of the season. No one knows how a player will perform on a different team wit different talent around them, and different plays being called for them. And like I said before this team was ruined way before the 2006 draft. And there are still several glaring holes that need to be filled.

Lets throw this out, what if the Texans went out and grabbed as much defensive talent as they could get their hands on and mix in an O-lineman
for the next 3 years in the draft and became the 2nd coming of the Ravens defense of a few years back? Or the Bears defense? How would this city respond?

the reason i want AD if he is available is b/c davis is fragile(well so is AD kinda), but they are different runners also. most good teams have 2 backs now. i am not a fan of the other 2 rbs on the team.
i agree stats dont mean anything but i didnt think mario was worth the first overall. he is a workout warrior, great in the wt room and running, but i never saw thoes results on the field in college.
the problem with the texans started b4 they ever played a game. the supplemental draft resulted in mabye 2 good player(maybe). i know aaron glenn and i think mabye 1 OL(not sure?). Charlie Casserly is the biggest mistake in franchise history. How anyone can have is resume (atleast at houston). if he worked at a regular job somewhere he would be fired long ago.
that said, i dont care how texans win 10-12 games a year like thoes teams, the city will support them. Winning cures all. well see what this new staff does in terms of drafting and free agency.

Merry Christmas,

I have recieved the best present a guy could ask for, a win against the team that we were 0-9 coming into the game. If they can pull out the Cleveland game , I will feel better and not want to puke every morning from that gut punch I recieved a few weeks ago.

Twas a very nice win for the Texans.

This is a really important game for the Teans this week. I know that the fans will feel alot better about the season and we will have something to grow on come next season. The players need it too. They need to see the hard work that they put in amount to something. Unfortunately for David Carr, the media has really been pushing the "get him out no mater what story" and if there are any "on the fence" people they have likely been pulled to the dark side. Personally, all I want is the best guy for our team behind center. No matter who it is.

Go Texans, Beat Browns!!!!

Well,
It is done and we won. I am happy about that. After Chris Taylor ran so well yesterday I am wondering if the Texans are going to select a RB now. I have a feeling that they will not. And I am actually ok with that. If Dom Davis does not come back then seeing Ron Dayne , Chris Taylor , and Wali Lundy in the backfield is fine with me.

So that leaves us with needs at FS, CB, OLB, DT, Oline, and at least a project QB. I really want to see Laron Landry now. Picking 8 would be a good spot to take him and there would be a lot of happy people here if happened. I would also like to see Chris Houston on our team if he declares. Those are the 2 guys I wouyld really love for the Texans to get their hands on. Add Kevin Kolb into the mix and look out. An interior lineman at least is a must for the oline so that has to be a priority in the draft. We will see soon enough. I am real glad that we are picking where we are so there will be some actual wondering on who we will take instead of one or the other talk for 4 months.

I think eighth overall is a good spot to take a young safety, and they could look for Landry OR Michael Griffin of Texas OR Reggie Nelson of Florida (should he declare)... Trading down for one is an option too, because all three won't go top ten...

man o man.....i can see us taking ap, but i hope we dont...chris taylor will be our back...i wonder if kubiak knew that all along, but didnt play him and says it was b/c he fumbled????huh????anyway....what if we could trade our number one pick at 8 for the patriots 2 first rounders? will they take that? then we could get a good cb/s and ol.....o well.......if not i say either landry, nelson, or levi brown at 8....in the second either merriweather, kalil, or dl, and the 3rd the best available player i guess.....

I doubt the Pats would trade up, they usually trade down and acquire more picks. It's always possible, but I think you're best bet would be to trade down with another team. What's the story with Charles Spencer? Did I hear it correctly that the injury may sideline him NEXT year too? Is he the LT this team has been searching for since the Tony Boselli debacle? Or do they still need to address LT?

no one knows for sure they havent said about spencer........some think it may be career ending due to his weight and position.....but i doubt it......he may not be as good as he was potentially so i think we may end up getting levi brown...that way spencer can switch to rt and levi could be the lt......our oline is horrid so taking ap would be pointless esp b/c daminack williams will most likely be returning plus we have 3 decent backs in lundy dayne and taylor so i dont think ap is the way to go.....i think we shold try a trade with grren bay if ap is there at 8 since green bay would prolly want him instead of lynch....plus theyd be risking him not being there at 16........but if we go levi brown our fs and cb situation still ould suck....so its really a matter of what happens in fa......

Well, the latest that I have heard is Amobi Okoye is a possibility for Houston. I am not sure about that myself but our radio guy here locally has alot of NFL/scouting ties into the league (his dad is an oline coach in the NFL, steelers new oline coach) He does not think either safety at 8, so we will see how it plays out.

What's the situation at DT? Travis Johnson's been a huge bust, no?

ya the only real player that can start for any other team on dl is mario williams and maybe jason babin............our dl sux but we cant keep reaching for dl in the 1st.......we need a franchise lt now that spec got hurt......i still say get levi brown in the 1st......then go from there.....i also hope that troy smith falls to the 3rd and we snag him up...ithink if the run game improves and we have him it will good.....he would be ideal with the bootlegs and scrambles that kubiack likes......

He looks like one. I did not understand that pick when it happened and makes less sense now especially after seeing what Jamaal Brown has done with the saints at LT and our lack of tackle for the existence of the team. TJ didn't fit the scheme at the time and he just doesn't have the work ethic which was his knock comin out of college. Also Seth Payne is probably gone so our DT postion and Nose positions are both open. But, Thomas Johnson or Anthony Maddox could take over one of the spots. They actually played well. Rick Smith has the eye for talent, so again I am excited to see what he can do with the full offseason. Also no reaching regardless of position has basically been said by Rick Smith so BPA all the way.

I want to hear from some of the FANS on what we should do in this years draft?

i like a number of players in the 1st......peterson, levi brown, landry and nelson, plus if quinn falls i think he'd be a good fit too....

in the second things get tricky...i like bush, kalil, meriweather or griffin, and rufus alexander

in the third it all depneds on the draft and who we got prior to this round....i hope/wish troy smith is there when we pick in the third...plus hunt, and more oline.....and eric weddle or someone of that nature.....thoughts?

Why did you make another texans forum? just put this stuff in there and we can all talk about it. There is no point in having 2 forums talking about the same thing. If it's all right we should have a mderator move this stuff into the Texans forum and then erase this one.

It would be nice to get a low budget, hard nosed FA to come here.

But with the 8th pick they need to :

A)Peterson - all star BR for 6-8 yrs(his running style will not allow him to be productive over 8 yrs. Stoops has already runned him to death in that hell hole of a town called Norman, Ok).

B)Levi Brown - this team needs to still build both lines and he is in my opinion the best OT in the draft, very solid player.

C)Trade down for more picks, not too far down but enough to still get a quality player in the draft and get some more picks. This team has quite a few holes to fill.

and please no troy smith in any round.

THANK GOD CASSERLY IS GONE, NOW THE TEXANS HAVE A CHANCE TO SUCCEED!!!

I think there is almost no chance the Texans will have the opportunity to take AP. He will likely be gone at 3 to Cleveland. Peterson is a total long shot for us at 8 and we cannot afford to trade up. Too many holes so, not an option.

Levi Brown is a player that I would not mind but not at 8. Personally, the options that I see sitting there at 8 gives the huge possibilit of us trading down. I would prefer this since we need so much we will likely get a targeted player in the 13 to 15 range and be sitting there with at least 1 extra pick, possibly 2.

As far as the remaining rounds, it will all depend on who we take in the 1st. Rick Smith has repeatedly stated that we will draft BPA, so really there is no telling who we actually pick.

I think the most pressing question is Who will David Carr be traded to, and for how high of a pick? I don't know which team but I bet it will be a conditional 4th that would turn into a 3rd. JMO

i could see the texans trading down a few spots and still getting levi brown, not too far but 3-5 picks down. also after aquiring extra picks they can use them to trade up in lower rounds also which is important. peterson will NOT be there at *. lets just hope Levi is and take him. I could also see the texans taking a DL or a CB who is head and shoulders above, and noone is at this point. A decent DL,OLB or CB will be available at the top of the 2nd.

I hope the texans are smart enough not to trade for Plummer. Denver must cut him at some point, just wait it out. Almost same deal with Texans, if/when Plummer is a Texan they will not keep him and Carr. Its a waiting game to see who cuts whom first.
Please do not trade the 8th pick to denver for whoever they include, its a horrible trade for the Texans.

Thank god for no Casserly!! On the Casserly note, why is he still on tv talking about the nfl draft. there might not be a worse gm in the past 10 yrs. he clearly sux 80%+ of the time. What credibility does he have, hes worse than any other GM in any sport that i have seen in recent memory.

After Levi brown didnt do so well at the combine. we should trade down into the 20's and get ryan kalil...there is talk that 2 big fa linemen one from chargers and one from the bengals have agreed to contracts and the teams interested in them the most were the texans, browns, and cowgirls....we may have signed linemen already....either way kalil is better than brown and i think spencer will be back. we need fs help. i like meriweather in the second. and hunt in the 3rd. that will make huge strides for our team.

Aamazingandre, yeah almost anything will we do will be better for our team now that casserly is gone. But, Levi is a RT/LT and Kalil is a C. I didnt get to see Levi but i saw the 40 time and bench press and i really dont care how he did in thoes. How did he do in the position drills??
How do you know that Spencer will be back??
Do you know what OL we may be talking to b/c i think its still illegal to contact FA until anoter week or so(atleast thats what i thought). Thanks

What to do with the 8th pick??
Peterson will be gone.
draft Landry at S.
draft Brown at OT.
Draft Branch/Okoye at DT.

the texans will have some options at 8. I would love to trade down 3-6 spots and pick up a 2nd or 3rd. any of the above options would be great, this team has about 16 holes to fill.

Peterson won't be there. I agree with you 100%. The decision they will need to make will be Landry, Brown, Branch, or Okoye. All fit in, so they can't screw this decision up... at least I hope not...

Well, with the release of Eric Moulds today, the Texans ma also have Ted Ginn on their radar or some other wideout maybe in the 2nd. I am not suprised by the release and I expect to see at least 2 more players released in the next few days. Thoughts?

Add Seth Payne DT and Zach Weigart RT to that list of cut players today.

Interesting. Anthony Gonzalez or Steve Smith in rd. 2 would make sense.

the Houston radio station also talked about getting a WR in round 2 but i dont agree with this at all. is a #2 WR needed, yes in a big way. but is it more needed then a S, #2 CB, OLB, DT, DE, OL, i dont think so. you cant use a day 1 pick on a WR, too many other needs. get a avg, somewhat cheap FA WR. all 3 first day picks must start from day 1, and maybe a starter from the 2nd day. i dont think you take a wr in day 1, but yes in day 2, if good value.

Well according to the Chronicle this morning the #2 wr job is Kevin Walter's position to lose. Kubiak apparently likes the way he plays, so they may not take a wr on the 1st day anyway.

i dont see us taking a wr on day one......the way it sounds we are trying to trade carr and a pick or 2 for clevelands 3.....so we can get ap......i HATE that idea. we need all of our picks and then some.....too much talent in this draft to just go after one guy. plus if we get 3 then we get johnson imo....better than ap and probably there at 3......

amazingandre, i agree with you, its a horrible idea to trade up. we need all the pics we can get and more. this team has 16 open starting spots on the roster. we need a minimum of 4 starters from the draft and 3 more from FA to even compete next year. to get to a #3 pick will require the texans to give up way too much in terms of picks. its not easy to move up in top 10, jsut ask falcons and giants. again today the houston radio station, 610, talked about a WR in round 2. i dont understand the fascination of wanting a #2 WR so bad. yeah some teams that are in a positions for that, fine, but this team is no where near ready to draft a #2 wr on day 1.

The Texans are talking to Jeff Garcia but so is Oakland so we'll see which way he goes. I know that most of the time players will just go for the money but there is little chance that I would go for the money in Oakland considering how bad off their franchise is.

no Garcia, no plummer, no other FAs. not a good thing so far.

Anyone have any info on Charles Spencer? It really effects who they will take in rd. 1. I think if he's healthy they go with Landry- if not- Levi Brown...

gpngc, yeah thats a good point. also, i just heard on the radio that the texans signed Ahman Green for 4 yr 24mill(6mill guaranteed). thats a lot to pay a 30 yr old RB whos had 2 straight inj. seasons. and a quote from the texans, not exact but, "we are gona hitch our O behind Ahaman and ride him." wow thats a strong statment. i dont think he can carry a O anymore, maybe 3 yrs ago, but not now. he can be decent at best, but well see.

Johnson goes long-term with Houston

Len Pasquarelli, of ESPN.com, reports Houston Texans WR Andre Johnson has signed a six-year contract extension with the team. The deal is worth $60 million and includes $15 million in guarantees. It is believed the new contract created more than $6 million in new 2007 cap room.

So no one has info on Spencer? I was tempted to give them Landry in the latest mock draft...

i havent heard anything either way on Spencer here in Houston.

Rick Smith said last week that he was coming along, whatever that means. They still may take Brown at 8. It will totally depend on where he is on their big board come draft day. At this point I am just happy that we have a more than capable GM running the show. I have all the cofdence that our team will make the right picks on draft day, not to mention the FA signings. Who knows Ken Hamlin could get signed and that would clear up a few things.

They signed Clark a LB. He led Raiders in tackles a couple of years. Last yr was a backup in Nawleans, started career in Jville. anyone seen him play. Middle? OLB?
can he start next to DRyans?