How bout those illegal spying patriots using a camera man to capture the Jets defensive signals. I am sure a lot of teams have done it but maybe LT was right. The Patriots are a classless team led by their classless coach. They should trade for Merriman another cheater and they already have Rodney one cheater maybe he was influenced by the classless organization. But really I find this funny I really do. I am sure every team has done it but the patriots got caught.

So basically you're calling out the best team in the NFL for being "classless" because they do the exact same thing that, by your admission, every other team in the NFL does? Give it a rest Brent. The Patriots are as classy an organization as they come in the NFL, and their coach is intelligent enough to take advantage of the other teams mistakes. Later on in the game, if you'll notice, the defensive coordinator was having 2 players hold towels up over his head so as to obstruct the vision of the camera men. Look, if you aren't prepared for anything in the NFL, it's your own fault. Remember, this entire game centers around the concept of "war simulation." And if you want to call some soldier out there on the battlefield a "cheater" because he used whatever means available to his advantage, well then, I suppose you've never been on a battlefield, huh?

Nothing against the Pats but i heard that they spoke with Former jet tim dwight and were trying to "sign" him. Or just use him against the jets

I WAS MOCKING SPORTSWRITERS ASTENBACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUH!!!!!!!!!!!! I love the Pats they always find a way too win and i have always liked them since the first years of Ty Law my second favorite AFC team. THATS WHY I SAID IT IS FUNNY TO ME AND I AM SURE EVERY TEAM DOES IT THEY JUST GOT CAUGHT!!!!!!! DUH. Some people LMAO

Despite what the "investigation" that the NFL conducts proves or doesn't prove, I'm not mad at New England for this sort of thing. It's a strategic advantage, and coaches have been stealing signals long before handheld cameras were even invented.

Oh of course like how UCLA knew when ever the QB at USC threw up the hang ten sign the Receiver would check to a fly.

In baseball as well as football the onus is on you to protect your signs, when it comes to that, "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin.

I love this. I thought it was great lol. Do anything to win. Thats me.

well done on this topic so far. This is the only site where fans can talk sensibly. Just looking through various fan boards, people are getting far too carried away. People are suggesting stripping the pats of their 3 championships, taking all their draft picks, taking away 20 million of their cap salary. Most fans are just being idiots about it.

THE PATROITS ARE CHEATERS. THEY HAVE THE EVIDENCE AGAINST THEM, THEY FOUND THEM GUILTY. THEY HAVE BEEN SUSPECTED BEFORE, THEY ARE CHEATERS. THATS MOST LIKELY HOW THEY WON THEIR SUPERBOWLS. THATS HOW THEY TOOK A NO-NAME TEAM AND MADE IT LOOK GOOD. LOOK AT THE PLAYERS THAT HAVE LEFT NEW ENGLAND, THEY HAVE SUCKED SINCE LEAVING.


JUST FACE IT THE PATRIOTS ARE CHEATERS, THAT FINALY GOT CAUGHT AFTER BEING SUSPECTED 6 TIMES IN THE LAST 5 YEARS.

THEY ARE PLANNING ON TAKING AWAY THEIR DRAFT PICKS AND 15 MILLION IN CAP MONEY.
I CANT WAIT UNTIL GOODELL COMES OUT WITH THE PUNISHMENT SO YOU BANDWAGON PATRIOTS FANS SHUT UP. HALF OF YOU PATRIOT FANS STARTED LIKING THEM AFTER THEY WON THEIR FIRST SUPERBOWL. THEY ARE GUILTY

Kind of like when the Jets brought in Reche Caldwell?...and Gus Scott?...O yea...and Tim Dwight played for the Patriots in 2005...and then went to the Jets the next year.