Okay so what are some offseason moves the Raiders need to make. I am thinking the priority list goes like this

1.ATTITUDE

1a.O-Line
2.RB
3.D-Line
4.WR
5.O-Line again


We have to get the attitude back first. I don't know about anybody else, but in recent years the Raiders just haven't felt like the Raiders. I figured Warren Sapp would have given us our bite back, but it seems like his bite is gone. Even when we signed Moss I thought a little controversy would at least give the team a jolt. Now the bad boy has moved on and we have nothing to show for it. We need someone to become the figure head of the team.The basis of all great Raider teams have always been the Maulers up front like Jim Otto,Art Shell, and Gene Upshaw. Robert Gallery has began to reinvent himself so a little help in the form of Jake Long or Sam Baker could only help. If Michael Bush makes a full recovery he is a pro-bowl caliber player, but that rehab is taking longer than thought.Warren Sapp is only getting older so an anchor on the D-Line will also become a necessity.


What are you guys thought?

Savage,

I agree with your thoughts. What do you think of Schweigert? It seems as everytime I see the Raiders he's getting toasted. He's also missing tackles. What do you see in him? Keep, replace, or draft a new FS?

Specifically where on the o-line and d-line do you think they need help?

Schweigert is an enigma to me he seems lost at times and other times he just does not have the athletic ability to cover even mediocre NFL WRs. When they Raiders had him and Derrick Gibson I made a personal pledge to find out what info they were using to blackmail Al Davis for a roster spot. Michael Huff is playing ADEQUATE, but not the player i thought we were getting two years ago. Unfortunately this years safety crop is beginning to look like Kenny Phillips and everyone else.So unless we are in a position to draft him i think we need to try and make a trade. Truthfully with the current demand for QBs if we shop cade McKnown around i think a deal is possible.

The D-Line is another BIG hole in the team the first and second strings have only combined for 7 sacks the whole season. Warren Sapp is at the twilight of his career and I think a change should be made before he loses his luster.Cutting Quentin Moses was a set back for the organization it show confusion and lack of confidence in our scouting. Also the Tyler Brayton Experiment, is he a D-End,D-Tackle or Linebacker?, is over. I think those kind of players that look good on paper, but really don't have a position don't have a place in the NFL. Sedrick Ellis or Chris Long should be available to the Raiders and either is a welcomed upgrade.

Also i keep hearing alot of draft boards (including this one lol)Talk about Calais Cambell being the next Julius Peppers, but the you'd never know it from the box score. When Julius Peppers was at UNC you new Julius Peppers went there if you were a tar heels fan or not because he was constantly doing something to has a video on sportscenter or having a three sack game. Cambell on the other hand is the second best player,behind Phillips, on a defense that can't hold water.I'm thinking more Mario Williams than Dr Peppers

The Raiders can NOT draft a Defensive player. Their passing game is horrible. The running game is pulling its weight but this set of QB are not going to take us to the playoffs anytime soon. They need to get Jamarcus Russell in their to get his feet wet. The Defense is not playing to its full expectations coming out the 06 season but something has to be done about the Offense. The Raiders O-line is still not great The receiving corp is pretty bad Rushing is ok. The Raiders do has some bad Rush defense but that is not the reason they are losing. In the Broncos Chiefs Titans game they could have easily won if not for their awful offense. The defense was the only thing keeping them in that game. With that said i would look toward DeShaun Jackson or maybe even Sam baker. They could look to fill the D-line hole in the 2nd round but 1st round definatly needs to go to help this awful Offense. P.s cut Schweigert alredy this guy just plain sucks.

well see thats just the thing everybody praises the raider d but where were they when lenda white rushed for a buck 35 or when LT rejuvinated his seasn by putting 4 tds on the board. The rushing game is ok but ok isn't good enough. the offense has no gamebreakers and i don't see another calvin johnson coming out of this draft but the dlinemen are plentiful as is RBs. O line though is always hard to findand a gamble to draft

What does everyone think about the Raiders possibly landing Darren McFadden? If they keep losing, and JaMarcus goes through some growing pains, they could be picking high enough to land him. Would they make the pick?

I think DeSean Jackson is the right pick for them this year. A deep threat for JR and a playmaker on special teams.

I think mcfadden is a definate possibilty because the rams niners dolphins vikings falcons or the bungals ( I have been waiting so long to be able to call them that again) are looking for a running back. the jest might but i think they will be jumping in the QB pool. DeSean is definatley a play maker hopefully he does not fall into the Ted Ginn jr category.

Schweigert and Derrick Gibson did not need Polaroids of Davis, peanut butter, Thai stenographers and a Schnauzer, all the needed was to be 4.48 and 4.45 in the 40, 36 and 40 verticals, weigh 211 and 220, the Raiders scouting by stop watch does sometimes workout but in the secondary it has caught up to them. Chris Long has a nice ring and they might be able to trade down to about #14 and still get him. Campbell needs another year under Shannon but likely won't stay to get it, he is not Peppers he's more like a taller Jamaal Anderson, he's not as good against the run as Mario Williams. McCown might be a valuable chip to play he has real talent but needs coaching and experience.

I hope and pray that McFadden falls to the raiders. That would give them an every down back. Jackson is a better version of Ted Ginn Jr.

Top Hopefuls for Raiders based on who has a possibility of being there
1.McFadden
2.Jackson
3. Campbell
4. Baker

that is a good list jerry what do you think about mcfadden round 1 lawrence jackson round 2(if he makes it that far) and lavelle hawkins in round 3 . i think a draft along those lines could put us in the next level. also are people looking at steve slaton as an every down back because this year im actually having my doubts.

If we draft top 5, IMO we should take a serious look at McFadden or Dorsey. But if we draft around 10 or so, we need to address the OL with Gosder Cherilus.

Welcome to the site, why not DeSean Jackson?

To tell you the truth depending on where we draft, you're right. Why not DeSean Jackson?...OR Chris Long OR alotta guys we need.

Its hard to tell what spot well end up withunless we win out then we can expect maybe two to four more Ws which at 6 and 10 would put us at about 9-12 unless we have a "raider special" end of the season 3 game winning streak ang get rightoutside the playoffs in the dreaded 14-20 picks Desean is making a good case for himself, but with Al at the reigns you never know. I just talked to a Raider employee yesterday that said Al is using kiffin as his own personal puppet. Lane has yet to find his own identity as a head coach i mean the play calling is erratic to say the least. i really believe we hade better choices for a coach but time will tell

I agree with everything everybody has said on here, but i think if we have a chance to get Glenn Dorsey in the first round we need to. He could end up being more dominant than Sapp during his best years, and we could find a good reciever later on in the draft. Here is my dream draft for the Raiders:

1-Glenn Dorsey DT LSU
2- Kirk Barton OT OSU
3- Lavelle Hawkins WR Cal
4- Jordan Dizon OLB Colorado
5- Jordy Nelson WR KSU
6- King Dunlap OT/OG Auburn
7- D.J. Wolfe SS Oklahoma

Wolfe is a project player that could end up starting, if not we need to sign a new ss in FAs

good list man i agree on dorsey i just don't want to get my hopes up. he is number 1 on most peoples list but we would have to lose out to get him. sedrick ellis might be a more reasonable pick. I also had an eye on wolfe good late round pick. you don't think we need a RB though? mike hart or ray rice would be steals in round 2

Not bad but Wolfe is likely to go a little earlier than that, but if you get those guys they're good players and the kind you can build on.

Not bad but Wolfe is likely to go a little earlier than that, but if you get those guys they're good players and the kind you can build on.

changed my list... now that it looks like raiders are going to draft top 3 here

1.Jake Long
2.Chris Long
3.Calais Campbell

Glenn Dorsey is gone with the Phins
D-Mac gone to Pats

The Raiders O-line is starting to look like the Raiders O-line again. If we manage to draft Long he will make our team much better. we have always needed a pass rush DE Long is that and a great run stopper. he can basically do everything you want. Campbell has more questions and is raw but he is no doubt top 3 talent wise.

Round 2 (If pick Long)
1.Lawrence Jackson
2.James Hardy
3.Ray Rice

Round 2 (If pick 1 of the DE's)
1.Best Available O-line
2.James Hardy
3.Ray Rice

O-line is becoming the biggest problem for the Raiders now. I wont be to mad if the Raiders pass up on McFadden, Fargas and Jordan are both playing very solid Fargas had a monster game today vs the Chiefs. Bottem line is we need O-line and D-line 4th round go WR 5th go RB later add more depth at O-line and D-line

i was inclined to agree with you jerry but it looks like another "Raiders special" 2 more wins no playoffs no top three pick.i think if we pick at around 7 sed ellis would be nice. sam baker is looking kinda gimpy maybe he falls to the second round?

The Raiders Defense has fewer holes to fill. Russell will be a first year starter next year, so the offense is going to have its up and downs a ready. So, you fix the defense holes to keep the good close. Priorities are FS, SLB, DT, and DE. I think Chris Long would be a best pick possible for raiders. He is a great pass rusher and good against the run. Burgess and Him could cause problems for most offensive lines.

i would be fine with a DEnd i wrote earlier i think Tyler Brayton's time is up with this team. he y what do you think about kenny phillips at FS he is a beast and they say he has more upside than ed reed

First round we need to address o-line with either jake long or sam baker, if we cant get long and chris long is still available we go there, he is a beast and way better than campbell. in the second round if we take chris long we go offensive tackle.
1- Chris Long DE
2- Chris Williams OT
3- no pick
4- Jordy Nelson WR
5- Wesley Woodyard OLB
6- Dantrell Savage RB
7- Derek Lokey DT

Sedrick Ellis is an absolute beast. very underrated. I have watched him thru USC games since i am a USC fan he is a very very good DT. He is giving Dorsey a run for his money for best Dt. You really have to watch Ellis. If both Longs are gone Ellis is my new favorite pick for them. Baker has not done anything for Usc this season. he has been injured off and on the whole season. Might take a mighty fall draft day and if he falls far enough the Raiders could trade up for him. He probably wont last until Raiders 2nd pick only way will be to trade up. not a great senior year but will stay in 1st round by athletiscm .

Once again we witnessed the "Raider Special" today. I don't get excited when we get these kinds of wins because i lets me know that a team of underachievers are finally playing like how they should. We have a good team on paper but a W over denver as sweet is it is can only worsen are chances of landing a top draft pick. Justin Fargas had a big game I have doubts about him bing an every down back, but lets roll until the wheels fall of. The big easy jmarcus russell got his first PT today and looked pretty good. I like zach miller but i think we are in need of WR help desean jackson is lookinging really nice right about now

Raiders desperately need a go-to-WR

yeah especially after we gave up moss for nothing last year. but i am not impressed with any of the wide outs this year maybe a trade is in our future

Hey i have been flip flopping over what our pick should be. i think at our current pace we should end up 6 or 7. I know alot of people are saying desean jackson but the more i watch Sedrick ellis or trading up to grab dorsey seems like a need because the D-fense is having concerns. plus i think there will be great WR value in the second round. kenny phillips or chris long are also possibillities

Let's just say a lot.

Well i think they have talent i place to at least be playoff contenders they just need that certain spark. we had moss but we wasted him with bad coaching,worse supporting cast and horrible schemes. Now that we have a decent QB and the oline is approaching below average, it sounds bad but two years ago they were past horrible, we just need to get back to the old raiders way of spreading the field. on a side note Zach Miller has the potential to be a very special player i hope we use him right

There r players on the Raiders who I like. I really like their LB core, especially Morrison, and Asomugha is very good. Huff is also pretty good, and Burgess has been good for a long time. So there r a lot of players on their defense I like, but their offense leaves something to be desired. Terrible O-Line, bad receiving core, don't like JaMarcus, and an unstable RB situation.

RB is very stable. When you get 130 yards a game thats pretty stable. J-Russ had a good game vs the chargers and showed alot of promise. We have a TE in Miller. O-line is pretty bad. If we get Jake Long that should be greatly inproved. WR need some help. All we really need is WR and O-line on offense. in Defense we need a better S then Stweart. and a overhaul of everylinemen except Burgess. So Dt,DE,WR,O-line,S. We came along way.

anybody know what the free agent market is going to be looking like

Oakland is in pretty good shape at RB w/ Fargas; Jordan; Rhodes; and Michael Bush, the rookie from Louisville. Look for Jordan to be sent packing and Fargas is an UFA I believe but likes playing in Oakland. Bush is the sleeper here and Rhodes played well against SD the last game of the season.

I'm not sold on Russell but he had a fairly good game in Week 17. I just think he's going to be a sack machine like Rob Johnson b/c he is not a fleet of foot.

The line has gotten better since going to the zone and both tackles spots have to be upgraded.

TE is set but WR is a major concern. Porter has played his last game as a Raida.

The D-Line is a mess and now Sapp is retiring. Really thought he'd have a good year after osing 40 lbs this past off-season. They need a DT and DE.

The LB's aren't bad.

Look for Huff to ove to FS and for Oakland to trade/elease Stuart Scweigardt.

NOTE: The big question will be whether Monte Kiffin joins his son since Ryan was terminated yesterday. What a rough X-Mas for the Ryan family.

Those r still a lot of needs. Plus, if McFadden fell to u guys, I definitely think that u should pick him. He has amazing talent. He could be ur franchise RB for years to come.

Right now i believe Chris Long is the guy they want over anybody. He does exactly what they need. Draft Board goes like this.

#1.Chris Long
#2.Jake Long
#3.Sedrick Ellis
#4.Vernon Gholsten
#5.D-Mac

I like D-mac but he is not as good as AP. If the Raiders get D-mac they wont be improving anything. Sure they will get abig name but they will have to much money at RB. We will have to let go of Rhodes or Jordan and probably Fargas. Why would he want to stay as a backup when he can go for the big moey somewhere else. I cant stess enough the Raiders have the #6 rush attack in the country. they are only of a coupe yards for #3. So it pretty much the same they have an elite rush attack. How will McFadden improve that? You have to look to improve not just get the big name. We need help on both sides of the Line. I say we draft eithier Long in the 1st and then get the oppossite position in the 2nd. We dont have a 3rd so we will only be picking twice in day 1. We cant waste it at areas we dont need. WR can wait, It is not as important as other areas.

Needs
#1 T/DE
#2 DE/T
#3 DT
#4 S
#5 WR

Last Year we needed TE,QB,DT,DE,WR,S,T,G,RB

We got a TE in Miller in the 2nd last year

We got Russ for QB last year

We moved Gallery inside to G he has been solid.

And We greatly improved the RB with our rotation.

I think we have to take dorsey or Sed ellis if either falls to us its to hard to find elite DTs. i think there will be good value at the WR in the lower rounds this isn't an elite class for WR but it has a wide variety. I like the idea of huff moving to FS but the whole secondary needs to work on tackling. there were too many arm tackles during the SD. even if a runningback gets past the Dline and backers the DBs should at least be able to finish him off. Jay richardson has alot of potential at the DE spot so i think with him and burgess DE should be okay for now. but with sapp on the fence about retiring and terdell sands still inconsistent DT is a must

Sapp Retired!!! How bg of a blow will this be to the Raiders? Sapp was the only thing keeping them from drafting a Dt this year. Its pretty much locked they will go D-lin in the 1st. Maybe back to back grabbing an DE an DT. If Chris Long is there i think he is pretty much a lock.

1.He is Howie Longs son

2.He is a great player playing a position we greatly need

3.He racked up 16 sacks this year alone. Raiders got a total 27.

If Long is not there Sedrick Ellis is the pick.

Virginia's site says he has 14.

I think the Raiders will be better off with Ellis.

Alot of people think they will end up with Jake Long though

Jake Long does not fit the ZBS. He plays to mych like Gallery always getting beat off the edge lke Gallery. They play to similiar and that will be enough to scare away the Raiders. I will be happy with Long or Ellis. And i guess 14. Still alot for a DE. I think just because Howie Long played for the Raiders they will pick him over Ellis.

I think u guys need Jake Long more than Chris.

Jake Long does not fit the ZBS... He plays like Gallery amost exactly. Getting beat by everydecent Speed DE. Him and Gallery have the ame exct problems.

Yeah i agree i get that bust feeling from jake long also i want to see what mario henderson can do he was pretty good at FSU. I like CLong and Sed Ellis only knock on Ellis is that he is a bit undersized, but he has a great motor like amobi okoye last year Clong is a beast but i got to see his combine because the ACC was soft this year.

Jerry...have to disagree on a number of points.

First off, Elite LT's can play in any system and the Zone Blocking Sceme is designed to hide deficiencies at the guard spots and take advantage of smaller lineman that can pull and get on the edge.

Secondly, Oakland went to the Zone system b/c their line flat out sucked playing Shell's version of a 70's straight-up line technique. Once in place, Oakland wil go to a more modern system. Look at Kiffin and where he came from. USC had Latui, Baker and a few others that aren't prototypical Zone players.

Oakland also needs to move down and grab a lineman and possibly the Safety from Miami since Sweigart is gone......

deficiencies at the guard spots and take advantage of smaller lineman that can pull and get on the edge. Long is not a smaller T that can pull off to the edge. That is one of his bigest weaknesses.

Long as the same weaknesses as Gallery. Plays flat footed and gets beat off the edge by speed rushers. Thats why we moved him inside to G. Long is more suited to the traditional system. If he plays the ZBS it will be the same story all over again with Gallery.

Baker is the perfect fit for the ZBS. He is very quick on his feet and his an elite pass blocker has long arms . Elite LT CAN play any systembut the system will limit them or make them into great linemen. Gallry was doing good at RT in Turer offense i agree and when Shell stepped in his traditional line he sucked. But he still has not cut it in the ZBS. Main problem his short arms and slow foot work. Long does not have the short arms but he does have the flat feet. Long does great when heis in tight space also with Gallery. Same problems Same strengths Same result.

The Raiders are going to take either RB Darren McFadden or DT Sedric Ellis

Dont count out Chris Long, simply because he is Howie Longs son.

R u a Trojans fan? U seem 2 like a lot of USC players.