It's like the two "Roughriders" in the CFL whenever these two teams get together--drives the announcers nuts. Anyway...not too many PPs in this one, but a couple of guys are obviously quite intriguing, especially UTSU's WR Kevin Robinson, and NMSU's QB Chase Holbrook. The game was really close until about midway in the fourth quarter when NMSU's undersized, and woeful d-line just wore down and allowed UTSU's freshman tailback, Durban Spate (Sp?) to waltz all over them. The "northern" Aggies emerged on top 35-17.
SCOUTING SUMMARY:
College: Utah State Conference: Western Athletic Columnist: Brett Walker
Game Notes
Ben Calderwood 58 6' 2.0" 268 0.00 LB 2008: Leading tackler on the UTSU d-line, and a pretty active guy. He didn't get all that much done in this one, but displays quite a nice blend of power and finesse. Just enough size and talent to be in a camp, but he is definitely NOT linebacker material (why is he listed that way, Brett?) GRADE: Neutral
Paul Igboeli 31 6' 0.0" 210 0.00 LB 2010: Most impressive player on the field in this game. He is certainly not big enough for NFL LB, but I wonder if he can be an in-the-box safety and perhaps a dime back and ST warrior. Shows good range. Shows good pass coverage skills for an LB. Solid tackler. Was all over the place just making plays. Reminds me of JMU's Tony Lezotte--one of IAA's top safety prospects. GRADE: Positive
Kevin Robinson 6 6' 0.0" 192 0.00 WR 2008: Pretty explosive guy. Had an 85-yd KOR TD, and looks very quick as a return man. That may be his ticket to the next level. He is currently 4th in the NCAA in KOR average. As a wide receiver, he sits down nicely in a zone, is fearless crossing, shows good hands, and moves like a smaller man. I'll be really interested to hear what his timed speed turns out to be, because he seem to have the whole package. GRADE: Slightly positive
College: New Mexico State Conference: Western Athletic Columnist: Brett Walker
Game Notes
Chris Williams(2) 0' 0.0" 0 0.00 WR 2009: DNP...Out since mid-season with an injury, and it has really hurt the Aggies.
Chase Holbrook 12 6' 5.0" 240 0.00 QB 2009: A bit of a Dan Orlovsky type. A bit bow-legged. A bit injury prone. Stands tall in the pocket and has a classic delivery and a pretty quick release. Throws a nice spiral. Doesn't seem to want to go deep much, but shows he is OK on the deep post. Did not see him throw any deep outs...Lots of short stuff, flairs to the Rbs, short crossing routes, etc. today. Telegraphs. Not that good of an athlete. Could have Bledsoe issues in the pocket. Glad he has another year to prove himself, as his receiving corps (top 2 WRs) has been decimated this season, and it has really hurt his confidence, I think. Broke the NMSU passing yardage record in this one, and now has over 8000 yards for his 3-year career. GRADE: Neutral
OTHER NOTES:
UTSU: QB Leon Jackson III (Soph, I think) is a surprisingly GOOD passer, with decent escape ability. He is also the best P in the WAC with a 41.7 average. Brett, I was really intrigued by LOG Shawn Murphy...He hunts people up, keeps his legs moving in run blocking and FINISHES his blocks. A bit heavy-legged, but everything is run his way, and he opened up holes. Seals to the inside really well. I think he may deserve to be added.
NMSU: Senior LB Dante Floyd is another guy who deserves to be in the database probably. Team's leading tackler. Real aggressive. Far & away their best defensive player. True MLB. LOT Mike Martinez isn't too bad as a college LOT, but he would have to move inside. He has a guard's feet and body type. He plays to the whistle, has a lot of pass pro experience now. Decent balance. Hits 2 guys a lot.
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Calderwood is fixed. The only guy in your notes I agree with is Floyd. But I haven't been that impressed with him. Martinez looks to lumbering to me. Jackson, I believe is a SR. If he looked good in this game that's great, but I haven't seen him look anywhere close to being a prospect.
I'll keep an eye on this Murphy kid.
Did you notice Ryan Tonnemacher UTS G? They started him off at C, but I think they moved him back to G.
I'll keep an eye on this Murphy kid.
Did you notice Ryan Tonnemacher UTS G? They started him off at C, but I think they moved him back to G.
QUOTE (bwalker @ Nov 21 2007, 9:48:36 AM) 
Calderwood is fixed. The only guy in your notes I agree with is Floyd. But I haven't been that impressed with him. Martinez looks to lumbering to me. Jackson, I believe is a SR. If he looked good in this game that's great, but I haven't seen him look anywhere close to being a prospect.
I'll keep an eye on this Murphy kid.
Did you notice Ryan Tonnemacher UTS G? They started him off at C, but I think they moved him back to G.
I'll keep an eye on this Murphy kid.
Did you notice Ryan Tonnemacher UTS G? They started him off at C, but I think they moved him back to G.
Nope, didn't take note of Tonnemacher. He must not have played because I wrote down every senior O-lineman to pay attention to them.
Martinez does lumber a bit, but he is protecting the blind side in a passing offense, and I didn't see him get beaten much. I think he may have a shot as an OG prospect. I liked Murphy better though...
Jackson isn't a senior, is he?!? Really? If so, he needs a writuep. The kid can chuck it.
Jackson is a SR. I can see him as an athlete/punter. I haven't seen anything to impress me as a QB. Kinda like that QB out of Washington last year on the Cowboys now as a KR/ATH. I think his name was Isiash Steinbeck???
Having said that I'll do a PP on him.
Having said that I'll do a PP on him.
QUOTE (PatriotofMaine @ Nov 21 2007, 1:21:24 PM)
It's like the two "Roughriders" in the CFL whenever these two teams get together--drives the announcers nuts. Anyway...not too many PPs in this one, but a couple of guys are obviously quite intriguing, especially UTSU's WR Kevin Robinson, and NMSU's QB Chase Holbrook. The game was really close until about midway in the fourth quarter when NMSU's undersized, and woeful d-line just wore down and allowed UTSU's freshman tailback, Durban Spate (Sp?) to waltz all over them. The "northern" Aggies emerged on top 35-17.
SCOUTING SUMMARY:
College: Utah State Conference: Western Athletic Columnist: Brett Walker
Game Notes
Ben Calderwood 58 6' 2.0" 268 0.00 LB 2008: Leading tackler on the UTSU d-line, and a pretty active guy. He didn't get all that much done in this one, but displays quite a nice blend of power and finesse. Just enough size and talent to be in a camp, but he is definitely NOT linebacker material (why is he listed that way, Brett?) GRADE: Neutral
Paul Igboeli 31 6' 0.0" 210 0.00 LB 2010: Most impressive player on the field in this game. He is certainly not big enough for NFL LB, but I wonder if he can be an in-the-box safety and perhaps a dime back and ST warrior. Shows good range. Shows good pass coverage skills for an LB. Solid tackler. Was all over the place just making plays. Reminds me of JMU's Tony Lezotte--one of IAA's top safety prospects. GRADE: Positive
Kevin Robinson 6 6' 0.0" 192 0.00 WR 2008: Pretty explosive guy. Had an 85-yd KOR TD, and looks very quick as a return man. That may be his ticket to the next level. He is currently 4th in the NCAA in KOR average. As a wide receiver, he sits down nicely in a zone, is fearless crossing, shows good hands, and moves like a smaller man. I'll be really interested to hear what his timed speed turns out to be, because he seems to have the whole package. GRADE: Slightly positive
College: New Mexico State Conference: Western Athletic Columnist: Brett Walker
Game Notes
Chris Williams (2) 0' 0.0" 0 0.00 WR 2009: DNP...Out since mid-season with an injury, and it has really hurt the Aggies.
Chase Holbrook 12 6' 5.0" 240 0.00 QB 2009: A bit of a Dan Orlovsky type. A bit bow-legged. A bit injury prone. Stands tall in the pocket and has a classic delivery and a pretty quick release. Throws a nice spiral. Doesn't seem to want to go deep much, but shows he is OK on the deep post. Did not see him throw any deep outs...Lots of short stuff, flairs to the RBs, short crossing routes, etc. today. Telegraphs. Not that good of an athlete. Could have Bledsoe issues in the pocket. Glad he has another year to prove himself, as his receiving corps (top 2 WRs) has been decimated this season, and it has really hurt his confidence, I think. Broke the NMSU passing yardage record in this one, and now has over 8000 yards for his 3-year career. GRADE: Neutral
OTHER NOTES:
UTSU: QB Leon Jackson III (Soph, I think) is a surprisingly GOOD passer, with decent escape ability. He is also the best P in the WAC with a 41.7 average. Brett, I was really intrigued by LOG Shawn Murphy...He hunts people up, keeps his legs moving in run blocking and FINISHES his blocks. A bit heavy-legged, but everything is run his way, and he opened up holes. Seals to the inside really well. I think he may deserve to be added.
NMSU: Senior LB Dante Floyd is another guy who deserves to be in the database probably. Team's leading tackler. Real aggressive. Far & away their best defensive player. True MLB. LOT Mike Martinez isn't too bad as a college LOT, but he would have to move inside. He has a guard's feet and body type. He plays to the whistle, has a lot of pass pro experience now. Decent balance. Hits 2 guys a lot.
SCOUTING SUMMARY:
College: Utah State Conference: Western Athletic Columnist: Brett Walker
Game Notes
Ben Calderwood 58 6' 2.0" 268 0.00 LB 2008: Leading tackler on the UTSU d-line, and a pretty active guy. He didn't get all that much done in this one, but displays quite a nice blend of power and finesse. Just enough size and talent to be in a camp, but he is definitely NOT linebacker material (why is he listed that way, Brett?) GRADE: Neutral
Paul Igboeli 31 6' 0.0" 210 0.00 LB 2010: Most impressive player on the field in this game. He is certainly not big enough for NFL LB, but I wonder if he can be an in-the-box safety and perhaps a dime back and ST warrior. Shows good range. Shows good pass coverage skills for an LB. Solid tackler. Was all over the place just making plays. Reminds me of JMU's Tony Lezotte--one of IAA's top safety prospects. GRADE: Positive
Kevin Robinson 6 6' 0.0" 192 0.00 WR 2008: Pretty explosive guy. Had an 85-yd KOR TD, and looks very quick as a return man. That may be his ticket to the next level. He is currently 4th in the NCAA in KOR average. As a wide receiver, he sits down nicely in a zone, is fearless crossing, shows good hands, and moves like a smaller man. I'll be really interested to hear what his timed speed turns out to be, because he seems to have the whole package. GRADE: Slightly positive
College: New Mexico State Conference: Western Athletic Columnist: Brett Walker
Game Notes
Chris Williams (2) 0' 0.0" 0 0.00 WR 2009: DNP...Out since mid-season with an injury, and it has really hurt the Aggies.
Chase Holbrook 12 6' 5.0" 240 0.00 QB 2009: A bit of a Dan Orlovsky type. A bit bow-legged. A bit injury prone. Stands tall in the pocket and has a classic delivery and a pretty quick release. Throws a nice spiral. Doesn't seem to want to go deep much, but shows he is OK on the deep post. Did not see him throw any deep outs...Lots of short stuff, flairs to the RBs, short crossing routes, etc. today. Telegraphs. Not that good of an athlete. Could have Bledsoe issues in the pocket. Glad he has another year to prove himself, as his receiving corps (top 2 WRs) has been decimated this season, and it has really hurt his confidence, I think. Broke the NMSU passing yardage record in this one, and now has over 8000 yards for his 3-year career. GRADE: Neutral
OTHER NOTES:
UTSU: QB Leon Jackson III (Soph, I think) is a surprisingly GOOD passer, with decent escape ability. He is also the best P in the WAC with a 41.7 average. Brett, I was really intrigued by LOG Shawn Murphy...He hunts people up, keeps his legs moving in run blocking and FINISHES his blocks. A bit heavy-legged, but everything is run his way, and he opened up holes. Seals to the inside really well. I think he may deserve to be added.
NMSU: Senior LB Dante Floyd is another guy who deserves to be in the database probably. Team's leading tackler. Real aggressive. Far & away their best defensive player. True MLB. LOT Mike Martinez isn't too bad as a college LOT, but he would have to move inside. He has a guard's feet and body type. He plays to the whistle, has a lot of pass pro experience now. Decent balance. Hits 2 guys a lot.
Is NMSU's FB/TE Nick Cleaver still hurt? I think he has some Frank Wycheck in him and has a chance to stick as an UDFA.
Maurice Murray- Is expected to go mid day 2, what did you think of him?
Did La'Auli Fonoti play; he has been compared to Travis Laboy as a DE/OLB prospect?
Did TB Justine Buries play; he's like a poor man's L.V Whitworth?
UTSU
Leon Jackson III is at best about 4.77 in the 40 so Punting or QB in the CFL are his best bets.
Jeremy Maclin is the only player in the FBS ahead of Kevin Robinson is All-Purpose yards and his fastest 40 is about 4.46 hand timed he's around 4.52 electronic and put up a 4.53 at last years pro day.
Some scouts think he'll be a DB at the next level.FS #24 Antonio Taylor looked really good last year but got suspended for almost all of this year, any news on him?
Do you think Dale Murphy's kid, Shawn Murphy, could also play ROT while at Dixie State he ran in the 4.9s at just under 300 lbs?
What did you think of #79 DT E.J Reid? Some think he might have a chance as an OG at the next level.
Did ROG Pace Jorgensen play I knew he had back spasms earlier in the year?
QUOTE (bcdrama @ Nov 23 2007, 1:28:09 PM)
Is NMSU's FB/TE Nick Cleaver still hurt? I think he has some Frank Wycheck in him and has a chance to stick as an UDFA.
Maurice Murray- Is expected to go mid day 2, what did you think of him?
Did La'Auli Fonoti play; he has been compared to Travis Laboy as a DE/OLB prospect?
Did TB Justine Buries play; he's like a poor man's L.V Whitworth?
UTSU
Leon Jackson III is at best about 4.77 in the 40 so Punting or QB in the CFL are his best bets.
Jeremy Maclin is the only player in the FBS ahead of Kevin Robinson is All-Purpose yards and his fastest 40 is about 4.46 hand timed he's around 4.52 electronic and put up a 4.53 at last years pro day. Some scouts think he'll be a DB at the next level.
FS #24 Antonio Taylor looked really good last year but got suspended for almost all of this year, any news on him?
Do you think Dale Murphy's kid, Shawn Murphy, could also play ROT while at Dixie State he ran in the 4.9s at just under 300 lbs?
What did you think of #79 DT E.J Reid? Some think he might have a chance as an OG at the next level.
Did ROG Pace Jorgensen play I knew he had back spasms earlier in the year?
Maurice Murray- Is expected to go mid day 2, what did you think of him?
Did La'Auli Fonoti play; he has been compared to Travis Laboy as a DE/OLB prospect?
Did TB Justine Buries play; he's like a poor man's L.V Whitworth?
UTSU
Leon Jackson III is at best about 4.77 in the 40 so Punting or QB in the CFL are his best bets.
Jeremy Maclin is the only player in the FBS ahead of Kevin Robinson is All-Purpose yards and his fastest 40 is about 4.46 hand timed he's around 4.52 electronic and put up a 4.53 at last years pro day.
Some scouts think he'll be a DB at the next level.FS #24 Antonio Taylor looked really good last year but got suspended for almost all of this year, any news on him?
Do you think Dale Murphy's kid, Shawn Murphy, could also play ROT while at Dixie State he ran in the 4.9s at just under 300 lbs?
What did you think of #79 DT E.J Reid? Some think he might have a chance as an OG at the next level.
Did ROG Pace Jorgensen play I knew he had back spasms earlier in the year?
When I get a chance I'll double check on Maurice Murray. I haven't seen anything to make me think he's draftable. Good measurables and a play or two here or there, but nothing special. I'm not even sure if he is playing at this time. I'll check. Same with that FB/TE Cleaver.
QUOTE (bcdrama @ Nov 23 2007, 1:28:09 PM)
Is NMSU's FB/TE Nick Cleaver still hurt? I think he has some Frank Wycheck in him and has a chance to stick as an UDFA.
Maurice Murray- Is expected to go mid day 2, what did you think of him?
Did La'Auli Fonoti play; he has been compared to Travis Laboy as a DE/OLB prospect?
Did TB Justine Buries play; he's like a poor man's L.V Whitworth?
UTSU
Leon Jackson III is at best about 4.77 in the 40 so Punting or QB in the CFL are his best bets.
Jeremy Maclin is the only player in the FBS ahead of Kevin Robinson is All-Purpose yards and his fastest 40 is about 4.46 hand timed he's around 4.52 electronic and put up a 4.53 at last years pro day. Some scouts think he'll be a DB at the next level.
FS #24 Antonio Taylor looked really good last year but got suspended for almost all of this year, any news on him?
Do you think Dale Murphy's kid, Shawn Murphy, could also play ROT while at Dixie State he ran in the 4.9s at just under 300 lbs?
What did you think of #79 DT E.J Reid? Some think he might have a chance as an OG at the next level.
Did ROG Pace Jorgensen play I knew he had back spasms earlier in the year?
Maurice Murray- Is expected to go mid day 2, what did you think of him?
Did La'Auli Fonoti play; he has been compared to Travis Laboy as a DE/OLB prospect?
Did TB Justine Buries play; he's like a poor man's L.V Whitworth?
UTSU
Leon Jackson III is at best about 4.77 in the 40 so Punting or QB in the CFL are his best bets.
Jeremy Maclin is the only player in the FBS ahead of Kevin Robinson is All-Purpose yards and his fastest 40 is about 4.46 hand timed he's around 4.52 electronic and put up a 4.53 at last years pro day.
Some scouts think he'll be a DB at the next level.FS #24 Antonio Taylor looked really good last year but got suspended for almost all of this year, any news on him?
Do you think Dale Murphy's kid, Shawn Murphy, could also play ROT while at Dixie State he ran in the 4.9s at just under 300 lbs?
What did you think of #79 DT E.J Reid? Some think he might have a chance as an OG at the next level.
Did ROG Pace Jorgensen play I knew he had back spasms earlier in the year?
Don't know anything about guys who weren't playing...I was just "popping in" on this conference for a game...Something to break the boredom...lol...
Murray left no impression. Fonoti played but I didn't see any Travis Laboy there. Buries looked OK, had a few carries and did pretty well. Shawn Murphy was intriguing. Really gets after it. He looks like a natural LOG to me, but somebody might try him at ROT. He's got a mean streak.
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