thasavage1
Dec 13 2007, 6:18:13 AM
hey if there are any oregon here you all shouldn't be saddend by losing Dennis Dixon because Terrell pryor the #1 QB in the country just put you all at the top of a very short list of schools he is considering. Athletic wise this guy makes Dixon and Tebow look like JV IMO he is more gifted then vince young. i hope he chooses oregon it adds credibilty to the conference and ill get to watch SC whoop his butt every year. also you all landed Darius Banks who led the state in passing. I have seen this kid play and he is a major talent but a tad on the short side but has a major arm.
Hey USC and UCLA already have top ten classes and ASU is sure to pull some in with erickson at the helm. looks like the rich will be getting richer here on the left coast.
FatMike58
Dec 13 2007, 1:15:21 PM
He isn't going to Oregon.
thasavage1
Dec 13 2007, 7:39:27 PM
QUOTE (FatMike58 @ Dec 13 2007, 1:15:21 PM)

He isn't going to Oregon.
how dou you know he just named them as one of his favorites
FatMike58
Dec 13 2007, 11:31:13 PM
Because I know he won't go. He will end up at either tOSU, UF, or PSU and my bets on tOSU.
Broncosfan713
Dec 14 2007, 12:45:45 AM
Washington is also building a great recruiting class, and Cal even after a horrible season, is almost sure to have a top 25 class with Tedford at the helm. Pac-10 football is looking good.
thasavage1
Dec 14 2007, 1:05:37 AM
QUOTE (Broncosfan713 @ Dec 14 2007, 12:45:45 AM)

Washington is also building a great recruiting class, and Cal even after a horrible season, is almost sure to have a top 25 class with Tedford at the helm. Pac-10 football is looking good.
yeah washington will have alot of kids wanting to play with Locker contrary to popular belief willingham can recruit. Cal is stacked anyway they quietly recuit some of the best players every year. their freshman jahvid best has star written all over him. is longshore declaring this year? i haven't heard much about it.
thasavage1
Dec 14 2007, 1:54:22 AM
oh yeah and Arthur Brown is going to look good in that #55 jersey
thasavage1
Dec 18 2007, 1:31:05 PM
QUOTE (thasavage1 @ Dec 14 2007, 1:54:22 AM)

oh yeah and Arthur Brown is going to look good in that #55 jersey
Looks like Brown committed to the U. it will be good for CFB for the U and FSU to get back on their feet though.
Broncosfan713
Dec 19 2007, 4:31:35 PM
QUOTE (thasavage1 @ Dec 14 2007, 6:05:37 AM)

yeah washington will have alot of kids wanting to play with Locker contrary to popular belief willingham can recruit. Cal is stacked anyway they quietly recuit some of the best players every year. their freshman jahvid best has star written all over him. is longshore declaring this year? i haven't heard much about it.
Longshore declaring this year would be a terrible terrible mistake. I don't even know if he would be drafted.
thasavage1
Dec 19 2007, 8:32:18 PM
QUOTE (Broncosfan713 @ Dec 19 2007, 4:31:35 PM)

Longshore declaring this year would be a terrible terrible mistake. I don't even know if he would be drafted.
yeah i agree. hey to me it seemed like coaches in the pac 10 didn't prepare for injuries and it cost the conference as a whole. ucla,usc,oregon,and cal stand out to me. i mean i was really suprised at Tedford bellotti and carroll. Tedford lets kyle reed transfer telling him he would never start then longshore goes down and they had a frosh in who just lost his head in crunch time. When Dixon went down Bellotti called leafs number and tha kid looked like he never played in the spread offense in his life. USC was maybe hit by too many injuries but the lack of depth on the oline was cray for a powerhouse and keeping booty in the stanford game with broken fingers cost a title game shot though the rose bowl ain't to shabby. It seemed like this year was the first that the media was willing to accept the pac 10 as a rival for the SEC. do you think the pac 10 was caught off guard this year and dropped the ball or is it the any given saturday you can win or lose thing?
Broncosfan713
Dec 20 2007, 4:13:22 PM
There was a lot of talent in the Pac-10 this year, more so than any other year I have followed. Every team except maybe Stanford was a legitimate threat(although Stanford came out with wins against Cal and USC). It was a conference of parity and balance.
the injuries also suprised me a lot. Letting Kyle Reed transfer to San Jose State was a big loss but I don't blame him for doing it. USC had a lot of recent oline talent graduate and move onto the NFL, so that's probably their lack of depth. Brady Leaf was a good QB for Oregon, but just couldn't run the spread as effectively as Dixon. THe one that really suprised me was UCLA's QB situation. Olson and Cowan(both mediocre) went down and they didn't even have another scholarship QB on the roster.
A good year in Pac-10 football but it still isn't quite at the level of the SEC yet.
PackersPwnage
Dec 21 2007, 1:08:45 PM
USC owns the west in recruiting, period. In last year's recruiting class they got the entire 3 top rated recruits by ESPN in Joe McKnight, Chris Galippo, and Marc Tyler.
Broncosfan713
Dec 21 2007, 7:26:05 PM
USC dominates Pac-10 recruiting but as far as just west recruiting I think it is pretty even. This year UCLA was able to take away a lot of LA talent from USC even with a bad year and a coaching change. Cal also almost always takes a few away from USC each year. Washington was able to keep top local talent this year for this first time in awhile. The difference is that USC can recruit nationally and can compete for those top players anywhere in the country.
thasavage1
Dec 22 2007, 12:50:11 AM
Hey has anybody seen Matt Barkley of Mater Dei this kid looke better than Jimmy Clausen and Dayne Crist and he is only a junior. i saw his tapes from his sophmore year and i couldn't belive it. they say he is the best QB from mater dei and that says alot seeing they have two heisman winners
Broncosfan713
Dec 22 2007, 12:45:51 PM
We actually played him in passing league this year at the Nike Tournament. He is really good, but he really tries to force the ball sometimes and struggles with throwing long over the middle. However, that was just passing league I'm sure he's incredible in a real game.
PackersPwnage
Dec 22 2007, 2:09:08 PM
While it is true that schools like Cal, UCLA, and Oregon take away from USC, they still have most of the west to themselves. The only reason y a lot of players don't come to USC is because they fear lack of playing time, which is y Emmanuel Moody transferred to Florida, a very good school that has a hole at RB.
thasavage1
Dec 22 2007, 10:42:54 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Dec 22 2007, 2:09:08 PM)

While it is true that schools like Cal, UCLA, and Oregon take away from USC, they still have most of the west to themselves. The only reason y a lot of players don't come to USC is because they fear lack of playing time, which is y Emmanuel Moody transferred to Florida, a very good school that has a hole at RB.
yeah i agree with that it kind of becomes tough to recruit because now recruits don't want you recruiting anybody else at their position. also guys are talking to recruits since their childhoods. look at darrell scott i watched cstv and he pretty much said he is going to colorado because he has an uncle there and he has known one of the coaches for years, but he goes to st bonnies and i am becoming suspect of their running scheme it seems like they always have a kid goes for 3000 on the ground.
also jeff tedford better have his head on a swivel because i heard if terrel pryor goes to michigan ryan mallett will transfer and cal is a possible choice with arkansas the most likely. I think with a qb like mallet tedford could mold him into a heisman candidate
P.S. even though i hate the beer those coors light commercials with dennis green,jim mora are hillarious
PackersPwnage
Dec 23 2007, 12:41:13 PM
QUOTE (thasavage1 @ Dec 22 2007, 7:42:54 PM)

P.S. even though i hate the beer those coors light commercials with dennis green,jim mora are hillarious
Lol, agreed.
jerry14
Dec 26 2007, 8:01:11 PM
UCLA is beating USC in recruiting.... UCLA has always been a good recruiting scool under Dorrell and it will spill into this season.
Broncosfan713
Dec 26 2007, 11:39:46 PM
UCLA is maybe beating USC in thenumber of recruits, but by no means by the quality. USC is averaging over 4 stars per commit, and really can nab almost anyone they want in the LA area.
PackersPwnage
Dec 27 2007, 5:42:43 AM
QUOTE (Broncosfan713 @ Dec 26 2007, 8:39:46 PM)

UCLA is maybe beating USC in thenumber of recruits, but by no means by the quality. USC is averaging over 4 stars per commit, and really can nab almost anyone they want in the LA area.
Exactly, plus they can also get recruits from out of the area. A good example of that was the top recruit that they stole out of LSU's paws, Joe McKnight. UCLA can't do that.
Broncosfan713
Dec 27 2007, 2:20:24 PM
No one else can do that...haha
FatMike58
Dec 27 2007, 5:23:29 PM
If McKnight hadn't gone to USC he would of been at Ole Miss right now, not LSU.
PackersPwnage
Dec 28 2007, 11:00:47 AM
QUOTE (FatMike58 @ Dec 27 2007, 2:23:29 PM)

If McKnight hadn't gone to USC he would of been at Ole Miss right now, not LSU.
Yeah, I heard McKnight didn't like the recruiting approach that LSU was taking.
thasavage1
Dec 28 2007, 6:53:19 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Dec 28 2007, 11:00:47 AM)

Yeah, I heard McKnight didn't like the recruiting approach that LSU was taking.
Lsu is notorious for losing in state rbs look at mcknight,dunn,and faulk. not to mention other players like john david booty either manning boys or brock berlin. until recently they have never kept talent in state. they are nowhere near a traditionnal power like michigan or usc. look at miami they are coming off a 5-7 season and have one of the best recruiting classes in america
PackersPwnage
Dec 29 2007, 11:02:55 AM
QUOTE (thasavage1 @ Dec 28 2007, 3:53:19 PM)

Lsu is notorious for losing in state rbs look at mcknight,dunn,and faulk. not to mention other players like john david booty either manning boys or brock berlin. until recently they have never kept talent in state. they are nowhere near a traditionnal power like michigan or usc. look at miami they are coming off a 5-7 season and have one of the best recruiting classes in america
Miami always has a great recruiting class because of their prestige and location. Florida has an amazing amout of talent. Look at all the Florida schools. Miami and Florida State r traditional powerhouses, Florida is having a great stretch, USF is coming on, and UCF is doing pretty well. Those schools get the good Florida players because of their locations and the fact that they don't care much for their players' grades, so they let some players in who wouldn't have the grade qualifications to go to a school like USC.
bwalker
Dec 29 2007, 8:10:35 PM
Wow! The Rick Neuheisel hire is horrible! At Colorado he took a perennial top 5 team and ran it into the ground. Somehow he got the gig at Wash. and he didn't leave that program in great shape either. He definitely didn't improve it. What was UCLA thinking? He's a good recruiter, but he also pushes all the rules. If he brings the Ravens offense they are in trouble. What's the over/under on how long it takes UCLA to end up on probation? 2 or 3 years???
USC fans are laughing and pinching themselves because UCLA blew it!
FatMike58
Dec 29 2007, 11:40:59 PM
Neuheisel has only had one losing season as a head coach.
Not calling him "great" but he isn't that bad of a hire.
bwalker
Dec 30 2007, 12:04:16 AM
OK, so he's only had one losing year. He took over CU when they were top 5 and when he left they weren't even in the top 25. He didn't improve WU. I don't like the hire, JMHO.
Then you mix in the shady character issue and I don't see the logic. To let a man like Karl Dorrell go, who is a man of integrity for RN??? I mean, Dorrell wasn't a great coach, but he was a guy who ran a clean program. Now you bring in the "Slim Very Shady" of college coaches?? Doesn't make sense to me?? The coaching is half the battle, he's not an honorable type guy. There's a lot of hypocrisy going on by UCLAs AD and Chancellor right now.
thasavage1
Dec 30 2007, 2:16:26 AM
QUOTE (bwalker @ Dec 30 2007, 12:04:16 AM)

OK, so he's only had one losing year. He took over CU when they were top 5 and when he left they weren't even in the top 25. He didn't improve WU. I don't like the hire, JMHO.
Then you mix in the shady character issue and I don't see the logic. To let a man like Karl Dorrell go, who is a man of integrity for RN??? I mean, Dorrell wasn't a great coach, but he was a guy who ran a clean program. Now you bring in the "Slim Very Shady" of college coaches?? Doesn't make sense to me?? The coaching is half the battle, he's not an honorable type guy. There's a lot of hypocrisy going on by UCLAs AD and Chancellor right now.
Yeah CU never really recovered after him. at washington i think he kinda got a bum rap but gambling is a slippery slope plus he probably did stuff we didn't even know about. UCLA basically got him because they know he'll put some quick wins on the board. they should have made a play for Dennis Erickson last year. could you imagine him and pete carroll as cross town rivals! neuheisel will bring the wins but there is too much temptation in LaLa land for a guy like that
jerry14
Dec 30 2007, 3:13:47 AM
Schools care about wins not intergrity. I know Dorrell was an integrity man but he sucked... Plain and simple. Nice move in letting him go, I think Neuheisel will ooze out 2 or 3 more wins next season.
bwalker
Dec 30 2007, 7:22:54 PM
USC fans aren't fretting the hire of RN. When RN was at CU he never won a Big 12 Championship or beat Nebraska. No wonder why Pete Carroll is saying it was a great hire! LOL
thasavage1
Dec 30 2007, 11:42:36 PM
Hey what kind of offense does neuheisel run? does anybody know.
bwalker
Dec 31 2007, 11:58:03 AM
I think he runs a pro style offense more on the wide open side. More passing with no huddle or quick snap. I don't remember him running the spread. I could be wrong though.
PackersPwnage
Dec 31 2007, 1:05:13 PM
All I know is that he has to be better than Dorrell. If I were the athletics director of a college football program, I'd rather win than have integrity. Look at Oklahoma. A lot of people hate them because they run up the score, but they win. That's what brings in the money and recognition.
thasavage1
Dec 31 2007, 6:30:35 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Dec 31 2007, 1:05:13 PM)

All I know is that he has to be better than Dorrell. If I were the athletics director of a college football program, I'd rather win than have integrity. Look at Oklahoma. A lot of people hate them because they run up the score, but they win. That's what brings in the money and recognition.
yeah but look what happened to their QB and O lineman they got caught with their hands in the cookie jar and it cost them. if bomar were at QB the could have went to the NC last year. instead they lose to boise st. and remember what miami,alabama and auburn had to go through. now that the integrity of sports in general is under the microscope id just be very carefull
PackersPwnage
Jan 1 2008, 12:07:37 PM
Neuheisel will be more careful this time around. He probably knows that if he blows this one, he might not have another chance as a head coach. UCLA cares more about the integrity of their program more than winning when it comes to football, so it seems. Therefore Neuheisel will be warned against breaking the rules, and he's smart enough to follow that warning.
thasavage1
Jan 21 2008, 12:45:49 AM
Norm Chow is rumored to be running the offense at
UCLA im juiced because this gives more credibility to the conference and there are going to be some classic USC/UCLA games going on. i figure if UCLA can stay in the top 15 when we beat them at the end of the year it can only boost us.
Broncosfan713
Jan 21 2008, 1:45:50 AM
Keeping Dewayne Walker was a huge saving face move for Neuheisel. I look for UCLA to be competitive but not take over USC anytime soon.
PackersPwnage
Jan 21 2008, 2:30:13 PM
QUOTE (thasavage1 @ Jan 20 2008, 9:45:49 PM)

Norm Chow is rumored to be running the offense at
UCLA im juiced because this gives more credibility to the conference and there are going to be some classic USC/UCLA games going on. i figure if UCLA can stay in the top 15 when we beat them at the end of the year it can only boost us.

Do u have a link? I'd be very angry if UCLA got Chow, who is one of the best OCs in NCAAF.
nyyjones
Jan 21 2008, 7:49:24 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 21 2008, 2:30:13 PM)

Do u have a link? I'd be very angry if UCLA got Chow, who is one of the best OCs in NCAAF.
Yeah! That was a bit of one-ups-manship on Neuheisel's part. I'm wondering how potent an offense he and Chow can conjure there? A very interesting move, all the way around.
PackersPwnage
Jan 21 2008, 7:54:05 PM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 21 2008, 4:49:24 PM)

Yeah! That was a bit of one-ups-manship on Neuheisel's part. I'm wondering how potent an offense he and Chow can conjure there? A very interesting move, all the way around.
I was very upset when Chow left USC. I can't believe he'd turn his back on us.
nyyjones
Jan 21 2008, 8:02:32 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 21 2008, 2:30:13 PM)

Do u have a link? I'd be very angry if UCLA got Chow, who is one of the best OCs in NCAAF.
Well, if anyone knows how Carroll operates, it's Chow...could give UCLA a boost in recruiting in the area...and nationally too, especially with QBs who don't want to play in the ever prevalent spread offense, and would like to study under a known quantity.
If you think you're angry, just wait until VY gets yelled at the first time by Dinger, his new OC, a notorious yeller and stickler for perfection. I wonder how long it will be before the two butt heads.
PackersPwnage
Jan 21 2008, 8:26:01 PM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 21 2008, 5:02:32 PM)

Well, if anyone knows how Carroll operates, it's Chow...could give UCLA a boost in recruiting in the area...and nationally too, especially with QBs who don't want to play in the ever prevalent spread offense, and would like to study under a known quantity.
If you think you're angry, just wait until VY gets yelled at the first time by Dinger, his new OC, a notorious yeller and stickler for perfection. I wonder how long it will be before the two butt heads.
Young will get mad, but he isn't that good. He's gonna live off that Rose Bowl for the next 3 years before people start realizing he's not any good at passing.
thasavage1
Jan 23 2008, 11:50:07 PM
Matt Barkley Just committed to USC!!! this was kinda expected but you never fully know. this kid is national player of the year and he is a junior! he has graded out as the highest Cali QB since Carson Palmer. he has a excellent arm and has good scrambling capablities thats 4 number one high school QBs and a number two on one roster. well booty just graduated but thats still amazing. to all the trojan fans we are going to be kicking but for the next 6 years at least just because of this kid. imagine a jimmy clausen only better and plays D1 high school ball
nyyjones
Jan 24 2008, 1:13:25 AM
QUOTE (thasavage1 @ Jan 23 2008, 11:50:07 PM)

Matt Barkley Just committed to USC!!! this was kinda expected but you never fully know. this kid is national player of the year and he is a junior! he has graded out as the highest Cali QB since Carson Palmer. he has a excellent arm and has good scrambling capablities thats 4 number one high school QBs and a number two on one roster. well booty just graduated but thats still amazing. to all the trojan fans we are going to be kicking but for the next 6 years at least just because of this kid. imagine a jimmy clausen only better and plays D1 high school ball
Well, he is only a junior...so things can change...especially if USC is hit with NCAA sanctions stemming from something like this...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/foo...eposition_N.htmThis is turning into quite a soap opera, isn't it?
thasavage1
Jan 24 2008, 1:49:54 AM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 24 2008, 1:13:25 AM)

Well, he is only a junior...so things can change...especially if USC is hit with NCAA sanctions stemming from something like this...
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/foo...eposition_N.htmThis is turning into quite a soap opera, isn't it?
it won't affect barkley he is solid his dad is a trojan and he goes to mater dei high school. those allegations and that lawsuit are garbage there is no proof usc was involved in anyway so it won't hurt the program. this guy filed suit in october and just now gets ready for deposition?? and since when does a lawyer contact another lawyer and tell him his client needs to give a deposition? isn't that a court order? thid dude wants publicity for his book and nothing else just like when this story was "leaked" 2 years ago.
Broncosfan713
Jan 24 2008, 4:31:07 PM
We played Barkley in the NIKE passing league tournament and he really did not strike me as the number one player in the country. Pretty inaccurate and indecisive on throws longer than 20 yards. It was only passing league afterall but still, it's hard to believe that there's not one better player in the country than him.
thasavage1
Jan 24 2008, 5:35:33 PM
QUOTE (Broncosfan713 @ Jan 24 2008, 4:31:07 PM)

We played Barkley in the NIKE passing league tournament and he really did not strike me as the number one player in the country. Pretty inaccurate and indecisive on throws longer than 20 yards. It was only passing league afterall but still, it's hard to believe that there's not one better player in the country than him.
Ive never seen him in person but from the game tapes ive seen he is pretty good. i think he is better than dayne crist whom i think may start over jimmy clausen at ND. so you coach?. I coach the d line at a high school up in sac. we re a new school so we just now are having seniors but we got some talent. lasy season was my first coachng high school it was pretty cool. one of my best friends in college is a head coach in orlando, so its cool we get to talk game plans and stuff.
Broncosfan713
Jan 24 2008, 6:25:58 PM
We also played Crist a number of times, he can gun the ball deep, but there's something I really don't like about him. Barkley is definitely better than him.
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