PackersPwnage
Jan 5 2008, 12:21:26 PM
We have very few needs. This should be our list of priorities, IMO:
1. CB-Harris and Woodson r great, but they're both old.
2. RB-Grant could very well be a fluke. I don't trust him to be the RB of the future.
3. OLB-To replace Brady Poppinga.
After that, I don't see anymore needs. This is a very solid team.
packfan36450
Jan 5 2008, 1:07:17 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 5 2008, 11:21:26 AM)

We have very few needs. This should be our list of priorities, IMO:
1. CB-Harris and Woodson r great, but they're both old.
2. RB-Grant could very well be a fluke. I don't trust him to be the RB of the future.
3. S-I don't like Rouse, but I do like Bigbie. However, many people don't like Bigbie either.
4. OLB-To replace Brad Poppinga.
After that, I don't see anymore needs. This is a very solid team.
First, its Bigby and Brady Poppinga not Brad haha. But I do agree on all the positions just not safety. Rouse is good and is a ballhawk and will team up with collins to form a respectable saftey tandem. Bigby has got to go. OLB is a need because poppinga sucks. Grant is good, and maybe Mendenhall in the first would be a good fit. CB I dont see as a need because Will Blackmon and uhhh i forgot his name right now but he's the kick returner too now have shown pretty good abilities in their rare playing time. Also, maybe some o line cuz colledge sucks.
gpngc
Jan 5 2008, 9:03:21 PM
Hey guys...
Wolfpack
Jan 5 2008, 9:53:47 PM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 5 2008, 6:07:17 PM)

First, its Bigby and Brady Poppinga not Brad haha. But I do agree on all the positions just not safety. Rouse is good and is a ballhawk and will team up with collins to form a respectable saftey tandem. Bigby has got to go. OLB is a need because poppinga sucks. Grant is good, and maybe Mendenhall in the first would be a good fit. CB I dont see as a need because Will Blackmon and uhhh i forgot his name right now but he's the kick returner too now have shown pretty good abilities in their rare playing time. Also, maybe some o line cuz colledge sucks.
I think colledge might be able to be a good LT. He has done any thing bad while at LT. Now LG is different and unless the Packers NEED him there he shouldn't be there. The other CB, I think your talking about is Williams (I don't know his first name.) I think the needs are a future RT because we don't have one. I think the future O-line is Colledge, Barbre (who the coaches say has the best talent at G but needs to learn more before he gets time, I think he will start next year.), Well or Spitz at C, Spitz or Coston at RG, and we don't have the RT (yet). Also I think Poppinga is playing a lot better than he didn't last year. I think in the group of Grant, Jackson and Wynn at least of of them will be good and the packers don't need to draft one.
I think the biggest needs are (Future) RT, maybe CB, depth at S, depth at TE, and DE (add another Kampman with Kampman and they have something Great)
gpngc
Jan 6 2008, 3:35:58 PM
QUOTE (gpngc @ Jan 5 2008, 9:03:21 PM)

Hey guys...

Come on. Let's talk...
PackersPwnage
Jan 6 2008, 6:43:32 PM
The KR that u guys r talking about is Tramon Williams. He looks pretty good right now, but I'm not confident in him. He didn't have a very good college career at LA Tech, and he wasn't even drafted. The Packers seem to have a lot of confidence in him though, as they signed him after the Texans released him. But it's not a good sign to me when the Texans release u... lol
PackersPwnage
Jan 6 2008, 6:47:55 PM
QUOTE (Wolfpack @ Jan 5 2008, 6:53:47 PM)

I think colledge might be able to be a good LT. He has done any thing bad while at LT. Now LG is different and unless the Packers NEED him there he shouldn't be there. The other CB, I think your talking about is Williams (I don't know his first name.) I think the needs are a future RT because we don't have one. I think the future O-line is Colledge, Barbre (who the coaches say has the best talent at G but needs to learn more before he gets time, I think he will start next year.), Well or Spitz at C, Spitz or Coston at RG, and we don't have the RT (yet). Also I think Poppinga is playing a lot better than he didn't last year. I think in the group of Grant, Jackson and Wynn at least of of them will be good and the packers don't need to draft one.
I think the biggest needs are (Future) RT, maybe CB, depth at S, depth at TE, and DE (add another Kampman with Kampman and they have something Great)
Depth at TE is not a major concern for any team, and neither is depth at S. For both of those positions, it's not important to have good ones after the starters. DE is a position where we do have depth, with Kampman, KGB, and Cullen Jenkins. I don't think that we need a RT for the future bcuz Tausher is not that old(30), and Tony Moll is that RT of the future.
PackersPwnage
Jan 6 2008, 6:53:38 PM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 5 2008, 10:07:17 AM)

First, its Bigby and Brady Poppinga not Brad haha. But I do agree on all the positions just not safety. Rouse is good and is a ballhawk and will team up with collins to form a respectable saftey tandem. Bigby has got to go. OLB is a need because poppinga sucks. Grant is good, and maybe Mendenhall in the first would be a good fit. CB I dont see as a need because Will Blackmon and uhhh i forgot his name right now but he's the kick returner too now have shown pretty good abilities in their rare playing time. Also, maybe some o line cuz colledge sucks.
Again, Tramon is ok but not that good. Plus, once Harris and Woodson retire, Tramon won't be enough by himself. Blackmon isn't any good. Personally, I like Jarrett Bush better than both Tramon and Blackmon. I take back the need for a safety, remembering Collins. I don't know y u don't like Bigby. He's only in his 3rd year, but he has 3 FF and 5 ints this year. He has a very good stat line. I like the GB interior lineman. Wells has been very good, Spitz looks fine, and Colledge looks good enough. Plus, they're all young.
packfan36450
Jan 6 2008, 7:22:05 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 6 2008, 5:53:38 PM)

Again, Tramon is ok but not that good. Plus, once Harris and Woodson retire, Tramon won't be enough by himself. Blackmon isn't any good. Personally, I like Jarrett Bush better than both Tramon and Blackmon. I take back the need for a safety, remembering Collins. I don't know y u don't like Bigby. He's only in his 3rd year, but he has 3 FF and 5 ints this year. He has a very good stat line. I like the GB interior lineman. Wells has been very good, Spitz looks fine, and Colledge looks good enough. Plus, they're all young.
Bigbi, did you see the Broncos game? He sucked so much i dont want to talk about it. Jarret Bush?? Please be joking. He is worse than Ahmad Carroll. Colledge sucks, hes just horrible. Spitz is Okay, nothing special. Moll is alright in his limited playing time i guess. and ya his name is Tramon, i forgot so thank you.
packfan36450
Jan 6 2008, 7:23:34 PM
QUOTE (gpngc @ Jan 6 2008, 2:35:58 PM)

Come on. Let's talk...

You want to talk now, but you won't next week after the Pack kill the Seahawks 35-17 in Lambeau buddy. No hard feelings though, we can still be pals.
PackersPwnage
Jan 6 2008, 7:42:39 PM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 6 2008, 4:23:34 PM)

You want to talk now, but you won't next week after the Pack kill the Seahawks 35-17 in Lambeau buddy. No hard feelings though, we can still be pals.
Lol, agreed. Sorry Seahawks. Holmgren and Hasselbeck won't beat their former team.
packfan36450
Jan 6 2008, 7:50:45 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 6 2008, 6:42:39 PM)

Lol, agreed. Sorry Seahawks. Holmgren and Hasselbeck won't beat their former team.
It's actually kind of funny that Gp thinks his team has a chance. Poor guy. Hey packpwnage. Are you going up to Lambeau for the Super Bowl Parade after they crush the Pats. I'm thinkin about headin up there.
PackersPwnage
Jan 6 2008, 7:58:41 PM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 6 2008, 4:50:45 PM)

It's actually kind of funny that Gp thinks his team has a chance. Poor guy. Hey packpwnage. Are you going up to Lambeau for the Super Bowl Parade after they crush the Pats. I'm thinkin about headin up there.
Lol, I'll think about going up there if they win the Super Bowl. It'll be pretty hard to get thru the Pats though.
big_mack80
Jan 6 2008, 11:27:35 PM
Hey everyone...I am new at this so bare with me but I am a sports fan and know a thing or two about football.
For all of the players mentioned in this thread, they are young. I mean Harris and Woodson are slowing and need to be replace probably in the next 2 years, but there are three up and coming young guys behind them. Tramon Williams, Jarrett Bush, and Will Blackmon...I haven't seen any of them make the number of penalties that Ahmad Carroll did. And while none of them are near as good as Woodson or Harris, as evident in the Dallas game. they are young and growing. Bush has shown some improvement over the year but is inconsistent, Williams was a no name at the begining of the year but has grown a lot in one year and I think the sky is the limit for him. Blackmon is the same...he was entering his second year having almost no experience, but he has shown a lot of improvement. He and Williams are both exceptionally athletic and are starting to learn the game, if Harris and Woodson can stick around another 2 years while these guys learn the ropes, I like the future at CB... but this years draft is STACKED at the CB position I mean as stacked as I have ever seeen...I would say that there are as many as 12 corners that are first round talents and another 5-8 that will be day one picks. I think Malcom and Mike Jenkins are both out of our position but Aqib Talib looks very promising, Antione Cason, Dominique Rodgers Cromartie, Terrell Thomas, Charles Godrey, Jack Ikeguawna, Leodis McKelvin all look promising, and of all of our needs I think this is the one that is at the top
Safey isn't a huge concern. If Collins can pass the curve and turn into the playmaker that he has shown so often then it is all set. Bigby is a player. He has given up a lot of plays but that is expected for a first year starter like he is, give him another year before you throw him out on the curb. Rouse provides a great back up. He is not only a ball hawk playmaking safety, but he is as physical as Bigby...Collins needs to perform this year but I give bigby and rouse another year to stay consistentcy...Unless Kenny Phillips drops to our laps, safety shouldn't be something we need to adress in the draft
O Line does concern me though...the tackles are slowing down with injuries so that needs to be watched, and the constant flux on the inside isn't reassuring...Wells is locked, but the guards are moving to much. College seemed to take a step back, as did spitz..I thought Coston looked the best but he got injured..Moll will move outside where he belongs eventually Barbre is a guy that i reallly like and I think he is the future at guard...best case scenario is we need some depth worst case is that neither of these three guards pan out and we go and get 2 in the draft and a tackle....there is a guard/tackle from newberry i think that is very promising
TE is not a concern for me, Lee has played great an is improving, Bubba is still a good blocker and showed that he can still catch'em besides this years class isn't promising
LB is another need...but poppinga has improved every year, he still needs help in coverage though...if we can get a steal like Dan Conner or Kieth Rivers in the first I say go for it, otherwise guys like Xavier Abidi, Ali Highsmith, Ezra Butler are all great options in the second round and I think any of those guys could step in right away...
I would say Oline is number one
then CB
LB
then maybe another RB
unumsanctum
Jan 6 2008, 11:33:47 PM
The Pack need
S
Wlb
oL
Cb
PackersPwnage
Jan 6 2008, 11:52:33 PM
In my mind, Tramon is mostly all athleticism and not a whole lot of talent. He was a track star after all. Blackmon doesn't impress me. O-Line is pretty good IMO.
unumsanctum
Jan 7 2008, 12:02:07 AM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 6 2008, 10:52:33 PM)

In my mind, Tramon is mostly all athleticism and not a whole lot of talent. He was a track star after all. Blackmon doesn't impress me. O-Line is pretty good IMO.
ya i realy like the oline the run blocking is most impressive to me
packfan36450
Jan 7 2008, 4:19:54 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 6 2008, 10:52:33 PM)

In my mind, Tramon is mostly all athleticism and not a whole lot of talent. He was a track star after all. Blackmon doesn't impress me. O-Line is pretty good IMO.
they are both a hell of alot better than jarrett bush.
packfan36450
Jan 7 2008, 4:22:26 PM
QUOTE (unumsanctum @ Jan 6 2008, 10:33:47 PM)

The Pack need
S
Wlb
oL
Cb
are those the order in which needs to be filled the most?? just wondering. and i think TE. Donald Lee isn't all that great and bubba franks sucks. I don't think WLB is that big of a need because they have hawk and barnett at the other linebackign positions so it makes up for poppinga who isn't all that bad, just overshadowed.
PackersPwnage
Jan 7 2008, 10:17:12 PM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 7 2008, 1:22:26 PM)

are those the order in which needs to be filled the most?? just wondering. and i think TE. Donald Lee isn't all that great and bubba franks sucks. I don't think WLB is that big of a need because they have hawk and barnett at the other linebackign positions so it makes up for poppinga who isn't all that bad, just overshadowed.
Donald Lee is a good, young TE. Franks is still usable.
nyyjones
Jan 7 2008, 11:23:19 PM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 7 2008, 4:22:26 PM)

are those the order in which needs to be filled the most?? just wondering. and i think TE. Donald Lee isn't all that great and bubba franks sucks. I don't think WLB is that big of a need because they have hawk and barnett at the other linebackign positions so it makes up for poppinga who isn't all that bad, just overshadowed.
Poppinga was "just overshadowed? I'd say that is one of the biggest understatements I've heard in awhile. Poppingaa had 50 tackles, 1 pass defensed, and 1 int while playing in all 16 games, and starting 15 of them. Respectively, Barnett had 131 tackles and 2 sacks, while Hawk had 105 tackles, 1 sack, 4 passes defended, and 1 int. YES, you need a WLB.
PackersPwnage
Jan 8 2008, 12:11:50 AM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 7 2008, 8:23:19 PM)

Poppinga was "just overshadowed? I'd say that is one of the biggest understatements I've heard in awhile. Poppingaa had 50 tackles, 1 pass defensed, and 1 int while playing in all 16 games, and starting 15 of them. Respectively, Barnett had 131 tackles and 2 sacks, while Hawk had 105 tackles, 1 sack, 4 passes defended, and 1 int. YES, you need a WLB.
Lol, but look at those stats for Hawk and Barnett. Yes, we need an OLB. But Barnett and Hawk r really good.
packfan36450
Jan 8 2008, 7:44:41 AM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 7 2008, 10:23:19 PM)

Poppinga was "just overshadowed? I'd say that is one of the biggest understatements I've heard in awhile. Poppingaa had 50 tackles, 1 pass defensed, and 1 int while playing in all 16 games, and starting 15 of them. Respectively, Barnett had 131 tackles and 2 sacks, while Hawk had 105 tackles, 1 sack, 4 passes defended, and 1 int. YES, you need a WLB.
Wow. You must have never watched a Packers Game. He makes some very good plays that show he is improving. And exactly, if hawk and barnett putting up such gaudy numbers, where is he going to get his tackles with barnett swallowing them all up?
nyyjones
Jan 8 2008, 10:19:50 AM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 8 2008, 7:44:41 AM)

Wow. You must have never watched a Packers Game. He makes some very good plays that show he is improving. And exactly, if hawk and barnett putting up such gaudy numbers, where is he going to get his tackles with barnett swallowing them all up?
How many of Barnett's and Hawk's tackles were made on plays Poppinga should have made? Look, a starting OLB in a 4-3 should be making more than 50 tackles, I don't care what you say. You play 16 games...that's oh...3-1/8 tackles per game. Someone HAS to pick up his slack.
PackersPwnage
Jan 8 2008, 11:35:16 AM
I don't like Poppinga either. He should be replaced.
packfan36450
Jan 8 2008, 12:02:37 PM
Not saying he's good, but NYjones can't say he's horrible if all he goes by is stats.
nyyjones
Jan 8 2008, 12:13:14 PM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 8 2008, 12:02:37 PM)

Not saying he's good, but NYjones can't say he's horrible if all he goes by is stats.
I'm not saying he's horrible, but you could use an upgrade there. He'd be terrific, and very solid in a backup role.
PackersPwnage
Jan 8 2008, 1:01:36 PM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 8 2008, 9:13:14 AM)

I'm not saying he's horrible, but you could use an upgrade there. He'd be terrific, and very solid in a backup role.
Lol, y would he be terrific in a backup role?
nyyjones
Jan 8 2008, 1:19:47 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 8 2008, 1:01:36 PM)

Lol, y would he be terrific in a backup role?
Every team needs quality depth...this he would be.
Pack25
Jan 8 2008, 8:40:11 PM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 7 2008, 11:23:19 PM)

Poppinga was "just overshadowed? I'd say that is one of the biggest understatements I've heard in awhile. Poppingaa had 50 tackles, 1 pass defensed, and 1 int while playing in all 16 games, and starting 15 of them. Respectively, Barnett had 131 tackles and 2 sacks, while Hawk had 105 tackles, 1 sack, 4 passes defended, and 1 int. YES, you need a WLB.
Stats NEVER tell the whole truth. Poppinga plays about 50-60% of the defensive snap. because when the Nickel team comes in Popping goes out. So both hawk and Barnett play about 40-50% more time than Poppinga does. This year Poppinga has gotten a lot better than last year. He can still get better. I think people that don't like him are carrying it over from last year. No he's not great but this year he's getting the job done.
nyyjones
Jan 8 2008, 8:50:11 PM
QUOTE (Pack25 @ Jan 8 2008, 8:40:11 PM)

Stats NEVER tell the whole truth. Poppinga plays about 50-60% of the defensive snap. because when the Nickel team comes in Popping goes out. So both hawk and Barnett play about 40-50% more time than Poppinga does. This year Poppinga has gotten a lot better than last year. He can still get better. I think people that don't like him are carrying it over from last year. No he's not great but this year he's getting the job done.
I never said I don't like him, and I never said he wasn't a good player. He does play the WLB position, so he would generally have less tackles than the other two LBs anyhow. However, your better starting WLBs usually have upwards of 70 tackles. Poppinga is someone, that if you found another WLB who could attain those kinds of stats, would be invaluable over a 16 game schedule as a quality backup/rotation type player. The kind of player top defenses covet having.
PackersPwnage
Jan 8 2008, 11:12:05 PM
Considering that the Packers don't have a lot of needs, OLB should be 2nd on the list behind only CB.
Pack25
Jan 8 2008, 11:45:45 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 8 2008, 11:12:05 PM)

Considering that the Packers don't have a lot of needs, OLB should be 2nd on the list behind only CB.
I do not think so since WLB sometime doesn't even play 50% of the snaps on the defense because of the system the Packers use on defense. I think the Packers don't have a future RT. I think RT and CB are both higher than WLB. Maybe DE too. Jenkins hasn't been putting pressure on the QB, and Williams is most likely leave via FA.
Pack25
Jan 8 2008, 11:49:57 PM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 8 2008, 8:50:11 PM)

I never said I don't like him, and I never said he wasn't a good player. He does play the WLB position, so he would generally have less tackles than the other two LBs anyhow. However, your better starting WLBs usually have upwards of 70 tackles. Poppinga is someone, that if you found another WLB who could attain those kinds of stats, would be invaluable over a 16 game schedule as a quality backup/rotation type player. The kind of player top defenses covet having.
If you didn't say you dislike him, then the dislike part wasn't for you. A normal WLB may make 70 tackles, but i don't think many could in the system that the Packers run. The system the Packers run has poppinga out the field more than most Wlb. I don't think another Wlb could do much better than he has this season. Well other than another Hawk or something.
nyyjones
Jan 9 2008, 12:15:15 AM
QUOTE (Pack25 @ Jan 8 2008, 11:49:57 PM)

If you didn't say you dislike him, then the dislike part wasn't for you. A normal WLB may make 70 tackles, but i don't think many could in the system that the Packers run. The system the Packers run has poppinga out the field more than most Wlb. I don't think another Wlb could do much better than he has this season. Well other than another Hawk or something.
You're right, I don't see many Packers games, in fact, I probably only saw a half of one this year, so I am not so familiar with their player rotations for down/distance, etc., so yes, I was using what I consider normal statistics for the position to compare his with. If what you say is true, then he may be a good for your system.
Pack25
Jan 9 2008, 6:17:44 PM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 9 2008, 12:15:15 AM)

You're right, I don't see many Packers games, in fact, I probably only saw a half of one this year, so I am not so familiar with their player rotations for down/distance, etc., so yes, I was using what I consider normal statistics for the position to compare his with. If what you say is true, then he may be a good for your system.
I think he is almost to good. He keeps getting better each year. So next year I think he will be good. Don't get me wrong they could have better, but for the % he plays they shouldn't use a high draft pick or big FA money IMO.
PackersPwnage
Jan 9 2008, 7:48:31 PM
QUOTE (Pack25 @ Jan 8 2008, 8:45:45 PM)

I do not think so since WLB sometime doesn't even play 50% of the snaps on the defense because of the system the Packers use on defense. I think the Packers don't have a future RT. I think RT and CB are both higher than WLB. Maybe DE too. Jenkins hasn't been putting pressure on the QB, and Williams is most likely leave via FA.
WLB easily plays 50% of the time. We don't need a DE. We already have Kampman,Jenkins, and KGB. Jenkins is a good DE, but he may not put as much pressure on the QB as some others. That's y we have KGB, who specializes in pass rushing and comes in on passing plays.
PackersPwnage
Jan 9 2008, 7:50:28 PM
QUOTE (Pack25 @ Jan 9 2008, 3:17:44 PM)

I think he is almost to good. He keeps getting better each year. So next year I think he will be good. Don't get me wrong they could have better, but for the % he plays they shouldn't use a high draft pick or big FA money IMO.
Poppinga? Too good? Look he isn't getting any better from year to year. He's already about 30, I think. And there's no such thing as too good that I know of, and Poppinga certainly isn't there.
packfan36450
Jan 10 2008, 11:46:12 AM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 9 2008, 6:50:28 PM)

Poppinga? Too good? Look he isn't getting any better from year to year. He's already about 30, I think. And there's no such thing as too good that I know of, and Poppinga certainly isn't there.
28 rounds up to 30 haha. They need an upgrade, but not as bad as that one guy is saying
PackersPwnage
Jan 11 2008, 1:31:36 PM
If they can get a good replacement for Poppinga, we'd have the best LB core in the NFL.
packfan36450
Jan 11 2008, 4:51:24 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 11 2008, 12:31:36 PM)

If they can get a good replacement for Poppinga, we'd have the best LB core in the NFL.
ya pretty close. bears are good with urlacher and briggs.
PackersPwnage
Jan 11 2008, 6:23:31 PM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 11 2008, 1:51:24 PM)

ya pretty close. bears are good with urlacher and briggs.
Lol, yeah. But the Packers have the same problem as the Bears. A weak WLB.
Pack25
Jan 12 2008, 7:42:52 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 9 2008, 7:48:31 PM)

WLB easily plays 50% of the time. We don't need a DE. We already have Kampman,Jenkins, and KGB. Jenkins is a good DE, but he may not put as much pressure on the QB as some others. That's y we have KGB, who specializes in pass rushing and comes in on passing plays.
WLB does always play 50% of the snap. Like in the Seahawks game they used Nickel most of the game, so Poppinga wasn't in a lot.
Pack25
Jan 12 2008, 7:46:52 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 9 2008, 7:50:28 PM)

Poppinga? Too good? Look he isn't getting any better from year to year. He's already about 30, I think. And there's no such thing as too good that I know of, and Poppinga certainly isn't there.
I meant. Poppinga is getting to be good. Why does age matter? You can still can better even if your older. BTW he's 28. I didn't mean to put "too good"
Pack25
Jan 12 2008, 7:49:59 PM
QUOTE (Pack25 @ Jan 12 2008, 7:42:52 PM)

WLB does always play 50% of the snap. Like in the Seahawks game they used Nickel most of the game, so Poppinga wasn't in a lot.
I meant does NOT all way 50% of the defense snaps.
Pack25
Jan 12 2008, 7:53:46 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 11 2008, 6:23:31 PM)

Lol, yeah. But the Packers have the same problem as the Bears. A weak WLB.
WLB isn't the Packers problem. I mean Hawk is doing pretty good. Poppinga is the SLB. I was writing it wrong too, no big deal, i think everyone knew who ever one was talking about.
PackersPwnage
Jan 12 2008, 7:59:30 PM
Lol, I'm really not understanding half the stuff that ur posting. BTW, if ur gonna post this much, y not register?
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