PackersPwnage
Jan 23 2008, 12:07:05 AM
The Packers made a lot of good mid-round picks in the '07 draft, but some early ones left a little to be desired. Here are my grades for the spot that they were picked:
Pick #16-Justin Harrell
The worst pick for the Packers in the whole draft, IMO. Currently the 5th STRING DT right now! Behind 3 young ones as well. Terrible pick.
Grade: D-
Pick #63-Brandon Jackson
Before the year started, I thought that this guy would be ok. But after watching his running and receiving skills, I've seen much that I don't like.
Grade: D
Pick #78-James Jones
Finally! A pick that worked out! And it worked out very well. Jones displayed good hands throughout the year, except in his 2 fumble game against the Seahawks. Will be a good slot receiver for years to come. Best pick of the draft for us.
Grade: A
Pick #89-Aaron Rouse
He's been pretty solid in the few minutes he's played. Haven't seen enough of him though.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #119-Allen Barbre
Has only appeared on special teams.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #157-David Clowney
Didn't make the team.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #191-Korey Hall
Hasn't looked too bad for a 6th round pick.
Grade: C+
Pick #192-Desmond Bishop
Has only appeared in a few games, for only a few plays at a time.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #193-Mason Crosby
Steal in the 6th. Better than Medlock, and will be one of the top 15 Ks in the NFL for years to come.
Grade: A
Pick #228-DeShawn Wynn
Looked pretty good for a 7th round pick. Was receiving plenty of carries before landing on IR. More than Jackson up to that point.
Grade: B+
Pick #243-Clark Harris
Didn't make the team.
Grade: Unclear
Overall grade: C, only 2 productive players
packerfan
Jan 25 2008, 10:50:07 PM
It's very dissapointing our top two picks turned out like that. I still can't figure out why they took Justin Harrell in the first round.
nyyjones
Jan 26 2008, 12:30:05 AM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Jan 23 2008, 12:07:05 AM)

The Packers made a lot of good mid-round picks in the '07 draft, but some early ones left a little to be desired. Here are my grades for the spot that they were picked:
Pick #16-Justin Harrell
The worst pick for the Packers in the whole draft, IMO. Currently the 5th STRING DT right now! Behind 3 young ones as well. Terrible pick.
Grade: D-
Pick #63-Brandon Jackson
Before the year started, I thought that this guy would be ok. But after watching his running and receiving skills, I've seen much that I don't like.
Grade: D
Pick #78-James Jones
Finally! A pick that worked out! And it worked out very well. Jones displayed good hands throughout the year, except in his 2 fumble game against the Seahawks. Will be a good slot receiver for years to come. Best pick of the draft for us.
Grade: A
Pick #89-Aaron Rouse
He's been pretty solid in the few minutes he's played. Haven't seen enough of him though.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #119-Allen Barbre
Has only appeared on special teams.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #157-David Clowney
Didn't make the team.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #191-Korey Hall
Hasn't looked too bad for a 6th round pick.
Grade: C+
Pick #192-Desmond Bishop
Has only appeared in a few games, for only a few plays at a time.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #193-Mason Crosby
Steal in the 6th. Better than Medlock, and will be one of the top 15 Ks in the NFL for years to come.
Grade: A
Pick #228-DeShawn Wynn
Looked pretty good for a 7th round pick. Was receiving plenty of carries before landing on IR. More than Jackson up to that point.
Grade: B+
Pick #243-Clark Harris
Didn't make the team.
Grade: Unclear
Overall grade: C, only 2 productive players
I have to agree with your assessment, especially with the No1, whom I personally had graded out no better than a 3rd rounder at best. I know they had a need there, which is why they made the pick...just too big of a reach, IMO.
adavis
Jan 26 2008, 11:31:44 AM
Didn't they move Korey Hall to full back?
packfan36450
Jan 26 2008, 2:25:44 PM
QUOTE (adavis @ Jan 26 2008, 10:31:44 AM)

Didn't they move Korey Hall to full back?
yeah and he has actually been pretty good. i new harrell was going to suck. i even started a thread about it!! Should have picked Leon Hall and then they could take another position besides corner in this draft!
PackersPwnage
Jan 26 2008, 5:51:35 PM
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Jan 25 2008, 9:30:05 PM)

I have to agree with your assessment, especially with the No1, whom I personally had graded out no better than a 3rd rounder at best. I know they had a need there, which is why they made the pick...just too big of a reach, IMO.
Yeah, Harrell isn't that good. He was out for almost all of his senior year, yet we decided to take a chance on him. And I don't even regard DT as a need with all the young talent we have at that position, such as Corey Williams, Johnny Jolly, and Colin Cole. Those 3 DTs, along with Pickett, are all ahead of Harrell on the depth chart.
PackersPwnage
Jan 26 2008, 5:59:57 PM
QUOTE (adavis @ Jan 26 2008, 8:31:44 AM)

Didn't they move Korey Hall to full back?
Yes, and he's played very well for a 6th rounder. A LB in college, he's been a very good blocker.
PackersPwnage
Jan 26 2008, 6:11:05 PM
QUOTE (packerfan @ Jan 25 2008, 7:50:07 PM)

It's very dissapointing our top two picks turned out like that. I still can't figure out why they took Justin Harrell in the first round.
Yeah, I know. I loved Lynch coming out of Cal, and I was hoping he'd fall all the way to us. But when he didn't, I was hoping we'd take either Hall or Nelson. But that didn't happen.
packfan36450
Jan 26 2008, 6:30:44 PM
I wanted lynch too!! better than ryan "i dont show up in the playoffs" grant. the packers suck at drafting
packfan36450
Jan 26 2008, 6:30:58 PM
I wanted lynch too!! better than ryan "i dont show up in the playoffs" grant. the packers suck at drafting
packfan36450
Jan 26 2008, 6:31:07 PM
I wanted lynch too!! better than ryan "i dont show up in the playoffs" grant. the packers suck at drafting
ubernoob
Jan 30 2008, 8:43:00 PM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Jan 27 2008, 12:30:58 AM)

I wanted lynch too!! better than ryan "i dont show up in the playoffs" grant. the packers suck at drafting
First off, the Packers didn't draft Ryan Grant. Also, Grant did not lose them that playoff game. Their inept playcalling helped them do that. I'd be scared to see what Grant could do if he actually DID show up in that Seahawks game

That's not to say I didn't want Lynch, because that is who I wanted us to get.
PackersPwnage
Jan 30 2008, 9:29:25 PM
QUOTE (ubernoob @ Jan 30 2008, 6:43:00 PM)

First off, the Packers didn't draft Ryan Grant. Also, Grant did not lose them that playoff game. Their inept playcalling helped them do that. I'd be scared to see what Grant could do if he actually DID show up in that Seahawks game

That's not to say I didn't want Lynch, because that is who I wanted us to get.
Playcalling was bad, Favre was bad, running game was bad, secondary was bad, etc. The only part of our game that I liked was the blocking, which held its own against a very good Giants D-Line. Special teams weren't too bad either.
packfan36450
Feb 4 2008, 11:55:51 AM
QUOTE (ubernoob @ Jan 30 2008, 8:43:00 PM)

First off, the Packers didn't draft Ryan Grant. Also, Grant did not lose them that playoff game. Their inept playcalling helped them do that. I'd be scared to see what Grant could do if he actually DID show up in that Seahawks game

That's not to say I didn't want Lynch, because that is who I wanted us to get.
I actually know the packers didn't draft grant, im not dumb. I was referring to Harrel. He's an idiot. The pack should have won that super bowl
PackersPwnage
Feb 4 2008, 11:57:57 AM
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Feb 4 2008, 8:55:51 AM)

I actually know the packers didn't draft grant, im not dumb. I was referring to Harrel. He's an idiot. The pack should have won that super bowl
Well, it wasn't Harrell's fault that we lost, but Harrell wasn't a good pick.
big_mack80
Feb 10 2008, 1:10:06 AM
the likely hood of Corey WIlliams coming back is slim, I beleive Jolly and Cole have both spent time on injury reports, causing them to miss games...Harrell was graded highly before going down with a triceps injury...Give him time before you through him under the bus...that said, i wouldnt have taken him either...later in the draft i would have been all for building dt depth, but not that high...I was rooting for Leon Hall first, then I wanted Reggie Nelson, and after that I was thinking Lynch... Hall will be a great CB, Nelson the next Ed Reed, and Lynch will be a good back for years.
Jackson started to look better at the end of the year, keep in mind, not all rookies are ready to come in and play right away, that is what they asked of Jackson. After being benched, he got the time he needed to adjust to the pro game, and it started to show in his game at the end of the year..he is a good WR, and showed good quickness when running, he still needs to work on blitz pickup and hittin the hole quicker, but he improved greatly from the start of the seasont o the end
Jones I agree with you 100%
Rouse came in at times and when he did played good, got some picks in his short time on the field, but gave things up, more of a mental thing though, learnign where he should be, positioning himself to make the play, that sort of stuff, when he figures that out, WR's acrosss the league will need to be on guard.
Clowney was just a flat out bad pick...
Korey Hall is turning out to be a good FB,
Bishop is good depth, but I like Hodge better still
Mason Crosby will replace Ryan Longwell as the best kicker to come through Green Bay...he's solidified the position...though wasn't as good in cold weather as he needs to be...
Wynn will be good depth, if ever puts all his physical tools on teh field, we could have the biggest draft steal ever...
PackersPwnage
Feb 12 2008, 5:43:31 PM
Lol, I didn't know that you were a GB fan. I think that Corey should be resigned, as I believe that he's much better than Jolly, Harrell, or Cole, and just as good as Pickett. He wouldn't cost that much either. Also, I agree with you. I wanted Hall first, then Nelson. I think that I wrote that earlier in this topic. Hall is a playmaker, and Nelson is a good, hard-hitting FS. He reminds me more of Sean Taylor than Reed.
Wolfpack
Mar 17 2008, 8:44:49 PM
Let me first last you need 3 years, to really judge a draft.
Pick #16-Justin Harrell- hasn't been healthy yet, if he ever gets healthy he might show something.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #63-Brandon Jackson He is not a power runer, and no power runners need a good line. The line was never good to him until every Grant got their. He tore up the Lions, because the O-line had a good day for once.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #78-James Jones
except in his 2 fumble game against the Bears (Grant fumbles against the seahawks) . Will be a good slot receiver for years to come. Best pick of the draft for us.
Grade: B+
Pick #89-Aaron Rouse
He's been pretty solid in the few minutes he's played. Haven't seen enough of him though. He was said to be a good tackler and could cover, when we drafted him, what I saw was he couldn't tackle and he could cover. If he be good at both at the same thing he'll be good.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #119-Allen Barbre
He didn't appeared on ST, and he did play against the Lions in week 17, and they OL had it's best day running the ball, but I'm not sure the Lions were really trying. But the OL and offense coaches clled him the most talented OG on the team, and said he just needs an offseason to catch up because he's coming from a small school.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #157-David Clowney
Didn't make the team. He could get off press coverage to save he's life, and when they weren't in press he still could run good routes, he could only run the deep ball. And on ST he could read his blocking.
Grade: F- (how can you give him any thing but an F if he could make the team?)
Pick #191-Korey Hall
For a 6th round pick, and a new position on the other side on the ball, and to start and be great in ST the second half of the season.
Grade: B (I would give him an A for the second half of the season when he wasn't hurt.)
Pick #192-Desmond Bishop
Has only appeared in a few games, for only a few plays at a time. But he has look like a stated when he was in. NO not as good as Barnett but he looked really good, I've seen other teams with worst starters.
Grade: Unclear (but from the little I saw, B-)
Pick #193-Mason Crosby
Steal in the 6th. Better than Medlock, and will be one of the top 15 Ks in the NFL for years to come. And lead the NFL in points
Grade: A
Pick #228-DeShawn Wynn
Looked pretty good for a 7th round pick. Was receiving plenty of carries before landing on IR. More than Jackson up to that point. But question about how much does he want this. He earn the starting job a couple of times, but he soon lose it every time. But according to MM, something has put the burning fire but into him, rumors is being put on the IR, and a mean talking too, from somebody.
Grade: C
Pick #243-Clark Harris
Didn't make the team.
Grade: F
Overall grade: B- Crosby and Hall are starters. Jones, Wynn, Barbre, Bishop, and Rouse could become starters, or great back-ups. The rule, I know of if you get two good stater from a draft it's good. If you get more it's very good. And I think when it all ends that there will be at least 3 good starters from this draft.
PackersPwnage
Mar 23 2008, 10:48:20 PM
QUOTE (Wolfpack @ Mar 17 2008, 6:44:49 PM)

Let me first last you need 3 years, to really judge a draft.
Pick #16-Justin Harrell- hasn't been healthy yet, if he ever gets healthy he might show something.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #63-Brandon Jackson He is not a power runer, and no power runners need a good line. The line was never good to him until every Grant got their. He tore up the Lions, because the O-line had a good day for once.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #78-James Jones
except in his 2 fumble game against the Bears (Grant fumbles against the seahawks) . Will be a good slot receiver for years to come. Best pick of the draft for us.
Grade: B+
Pick #89-Aaron Rouse
He's been pretty solid in the few minutes he's played. Haven't seen enough of him though. He was said to be a good tackler and could cover, when we drafted him, what I saw was he couldn't tackle and he could cover. If he be good at both at the same thing he'll be good.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #119-Allen Barbre
He didn't appeared on ST, and he did play against the Lions in week 17, and they OL had it's best day running the ball, but I'm not sure the Lions were really trying. But the OL and offense coaches clled him the most talented OG on the team, and said he just needs an offseason to catch up because he's coming from a small school.
Grade: Unclear
Pick #157-David Clowney
Didn't make the team. He could get off press coverage to save he's life, and when they weren't in press he still could run good routes, he could only run the deep ball. And on ST he could read his blocking.
Grade: F- (how can you give him any thing but an F if he could make the team?)
Pick #191-Korey Hall
For a 6th round pick, and a new position on the other side on the ball, and to start and be great in ST the second half of the season.
Grade: B (I would give him an A for the second half of the season when he wasn't hurt.)
Pick #192-Desmond Bishop
Has only appeared in a few games, for only a few plays at a time. But he has look like a stated when he was in. NO not as good as Barnett but he looked really good, I've seen other teams with worst starters.
Grade: Unclear (but from the little I saw, B-)
Pick #193-Mason Crosby
Steal in the 6th. Better than Medlock, and will be one of the top 15 Ks in the NFL for years to come. And lead the NFL in points
Grade: A
Pick #228-DeShawn Wynn
Looked pretty good for a 7th round pick. Was receiving plenty of carries before landing on IR. More than Jackson up to that point. But question about how much does he want this. He earn the starting job a couple of times, but he soon lose it every time. But according to MM, something has put the burning fire but into him, rumors is being put on the IR, and a mean talking too, from somebody.
Grade: C
Pick #243-Clark Harris
Didn't make the team.
Grade: F
Overall grade: B- Crosby and Hall are starters. Jones, Wynn, Barbre, Bishop, and Rouse could become starters, or great back-ups. The rule, I know of if you get two good stater from a draft it's good. If you get more it's very good. And I think when it all ends that there will be at least 3 good starters from this draft.
While I do agree that you need several years to judge a draft, I couldn't just gve them no grades, lol. Plus, in the case of some,(i.e Brandon Jackson) their ability was shown. Jackson was given many carries at the beginning of the year, and he averaged a tad under 3 yards per carry during that time. That's horrendous for a 2nd round pick with high expectations.
Packdogs
Mar 24 2008, 2:34:25 PM
QUOTE (PackersPwnage @ Mar 23 2008, 11:48:20 PM)

While I do agree that you need several years to judge a draft, I couldn't just gve them no grades, lol. Plus, in the case of some,(i.e Brandon Jackson) their ability was shown. Jackson was given many carries at the beginning of the year, and he averaged a tad under 3 yards per carry during that time. That's horrendous for a 2nd round pick with high expectations.
Yes just like that QB Brett Faver or was it Favra turn out to be a bust. In Favre first year, he didn't get one comp. and he threw two pick, I think I've heard both went for TD the other way, I know one did. Also Jackson, looked great at the end, and the OL looked horrible in at the start. Look players grow. Heck what did Favre, Driver, Kampman, Harris, Bigby, Ahman Green do their first years in the NFL? All of them didn't look good, other than maybe Driver and Kampman. Players grow, give them a chance.
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