What do you guys think of him? I was very skeptical of him before the year since he wasn't even in the top 25 in Division 1-A in passer rating in the one good year that he had in college. But he really proved how efficient he can be in the Dallas game. Of course, Brett will try o keep playing until he drops dead, but I now believe tha Rodgers is good enough to be a strter for a long time. Especially on a team with as much talent as we have. What do you guys think?

I completely agree. He started to win me over in preseason, but after the Dallas game I am completely confident he has what it takes to be a quarterback in this league. He even outperformed Brett Favre in the Dallas game.

Let's not try to trick ourselves into thinking that he can outperform Brett on a regular basis, but he definitely proved something. As of now, I'm cautiously optimistic.

Give him time he is like a low key J.P Losman, mobile with a good arm, he'll need reps.

I'm not saying that Aaron Rodgers can outperform Brett on a regular basis, but in that game he looked very good against the same defense that Brett stunk it up.

I'm not saying he will by no means come to the level of Brett Favre, but I do think he can be a good NFL quarterback.

I'm not saying he will by no means come to the level of Brett Favre, but I do think he can be a good NFL quarterback.

I don't think he is good at all. He had one good game against a shaky dallas secondary. Did you see him at all when they packers were up big? He has the worst feet I've ever seen and a stupid beard!

I think that Losman is a solid QB to be honest. He doesn't make the big mistakes that cost his team the game.

How many interceptions did Brett throw against that same shaky secondary?

I definitely think Aaron Rodgers has potential to be good in the NFL I just believe he needs to get some time in there for a little while. I do to think that JP Losman is not a bad qb but I think Rodgers is and will be better with time and reps in the league.

2, if I recall correctly. But every QB has a bad game, even the great ones. Brett has been prone to these multi-interception games, especially late in his career. But I do agree that Rodgers will be very solid.

Well we will find out now since Favre retired so now its time for Rodgers to shine

I too think he could be a better than average NFL QB. Fortunately for him, he's had time to sit and learn for a while now, so he knows the offense. The problem is lack of experience, and game playing rust. In their quest to get Brett all those records, they failed, IMO, to get Rodgers game playing experience when they were blowing people out...or being blown out. I don't see him stepping in an being consistent for at least the first 8-10 games, and by then the Pack could be out of the playoff picture. They will likely get a much tougher schedule this year than they had last year because of their record, so if I were a Packers fan, I wouldn't get too excited about returning to the NFC Championship game, much less the SB this year. By the end of the year, everyone will have a much better handle on the Green Bay QB situation.

Brett Favre f***ed us over! Thanks.

Now this topic is more relevant.

this is a thought now brett is gone what do u think our record will be wen we finish next yrs season i say round 8 at the best ny1 else wat yall think?

That is one of the most asinine statements I've ever seen posted.

I must be drunk on the coffee I'm drinking, because I don't remember you having all that great a team before he arrived as your QB. He gave Green Bay fans something to finally cheer about once he arrived, won a SB, and went to the playoffs a bunch. What more can you ask of a QB...not only that, but one that's going to Canton on the first ballot?

I believe if anyone screwed the Packers, it was the coaching staff/Front office. There should have been more of a priority of getting Rodgers some game experience. Farve has played what, 17 years? That's a long...long...long time in the NFL. I don't blame him for wanting to retire.

You say you're a big Packer fan...then tell me this...how many winning seasons did the Packers have between the day Vince Lombardi left, and Brett Farve arrived? Go ahead...Google that, Mr. Packer fan.

I'm still waiting.

Okay...you finally got that? Now, how many winning seasons have the Packers had since Brett Farve arrived in 1992? I'll wait while you Google that too.

Got your answer?

Good. Case closed.

BTW...it was about 24 years between the two...are you in for another 24 years? Too bad you don't even realize how good you had it there

gotta agree with this guy

I didn't mean he screwed us in the past but now. I mean I thought he would at least give us a heads up before so we could've started grooming rodgers before. I thought for sure that he was going to come back after the season the Packers had. Personally, I thought the management knew that Rodgers wasn't going to be the QB of the future for the Packers, so they were counting on Favre letting them know that he was going to retire so they were going to trade Rodgers and a pick to move up and draft another QB to be the guy.. guess i was wrong. And NY, im not going to google anything to show im a packer fan dumba**

I like you packfan but don;t go calling someone who Has YEARS of more knowledge then you and I a dumbass. Jones is very opininated does it make him right or wrong? Its up to you to decide but he is a Good guy and a very reasonable person. Case CLosed Brett Favre was a great QB and fun to watch Rogers will DO FINE!

You thought he would give you a "heads up?" Let me ask you this...if the the Packers didn't make the playoffs, and he wanted to play another year...do you think the Packers would have given him a "heads up" if they wanted to go with Rodgers and cut him? If so, how much of a "heads up" would that have been? The day after they had their end of season meeting? Give me a break.

Let me tell you this, pakfan36450, this is a business, but Farve was like a little kid amongst a bunch of ME people. He would have played for a lot less if the economic circumstances were different in the NFL. I'm not going to sit here and anoint him the greatest QB ever, because he isn't, despite the records. However, he may be the most fun QB I've ever watched, and that's what attracted millions of fans across America to him, even fans who disliked the Pack. He didn't owe the Packers a "heads up," as you so eloquently put it...ha ha...they already drafted his heir apparent in Rodgers. What did he owe them a "heads up" for? If I remember right, they didn't give him a "heads up" when they drafted Rodgers to begin with. What I see, is an old QB who saw the writing on the wall a few years ago...written, I might add, by the very folks who you claim he owed a "heads up" to. Hogwash.

As for your last statement, I won't dignify that with an answer. I'll just let other people read your post, and read my answer, and be satisfied by the result of that. Have a great day...and "heads up," packfan36450.

Packers changing more than QB

Dan Pompei | On the NFL
March 16, 2008



The last time someone other than Brett Favre started a game at quarterback for the Packers, the Clinton who was a presidential candidate was Bill, not Hillary. The Blackhawks had just played in the Stanley Cup finals. And Paula Abdul was famous because she had a No. 1 record, not because she was on a No. 1 TV show.

It's difficult to remember when Favre was not there for the Packers. So it will seem very strange to see Aaron Rodgers lined up under center in September.

Of course the Packers' offense won't be the same. There never has been a player like Favre in the history of the NFL. Rodgers, the team's first-round pick from the 2005 draft, certainly has a different skill set.


Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin acknowledges a "tweaking" of the offense is in order. But he also says the coaching staff still is learning about Rodgers, who has thrown only 59 NFL passes, so they aren't quite sure how the offense will adapt.

Rodgers has impressed his teammates and his coaches up to this point. Philbin praised Rodgers for his work ethic, intelligence and his grasp of the offense.

Against the Cowboys last season, Rodgers came off the bench in the second quarter and led the team to 17 points. He completed 69.2 percent of his passes and had a 104.8 passer rating. And most impressive, according to Philbin, is he knew what he was doing.

"He made protection adjustments like he had been playing for years," Philbin said.

Rodgers came from a strict system at the University of California and should be better at playing within the boundaries of the offense than Favre was for most of his career.

Though Rodgers has plenty of arm strength, his arm is not as strong as Favre's. Whose is? So the Packers might not ask Rodgers to make some of the throws they asked Favre to make. Certainly, the coaches will want to minimize risk with an inexperienced passer.

Running the ball more would take some of the burden off Rodgers. Only six teams had a higher ratio of passes to runs than the Packers did last season. They clearly were a team that passed to set up the run, and many of their runs were out of passing formations.

They began to run the ball more as the season wore on, and the trend will have to continue for the sake of Rodgers' development.

"We want to have a better run game to help his transition," Philbin says.

Whether or not the Packers are capable of becoming a more physical running offense remains to be seen.

The 24-year-old Rodgers has more mobility than the 37-year-old Favre did. So the Packers may incorporate more quarterback movement into their offense.

Favre never suffered an injury of consequence in 275 straight starts, including playoffs. Rodgers already has suffered two significant injuries despite never starting a game. He broke his foot during a game in 2006 and pulled his hamstring in a practice last season.

So the Packers need to be careful about how much punishment they expose Rodgers to.

As much as anything, Rodgers has to show he is tough enough. And it's more than just staying on the field.

"He needs to get in some tough situations—rally his team from behind, get backed up in the end zone on the road where he can't hear and he has to communicate with the guys, he has to take a couple of shots under the chin, bounce back up and make the next throw," Philbin says. "He needs to display a lot of those things he hasn't had an opportunity to do yet."

Rodgers' opportunities begin Monday when he reports to Green Bay for the start of the team's off-season program.

Hey everyone,

I wanted to put in my two cents about Aaron Rodgers. Personally, I remember scouting Aaron out of California and thinking that he was one of the best mechanical QB's I'd ever seen. Huge upside was the report on him back in 2004. He's not had a lot of starts in GB, but that was never the intended purpose for him, as he was drafted to back up Favre and eventually succeed him. I'm excited to see how he performs this year, and I'm willing to bet that he's going to surprise a lot of critics.

Then again, he is a Jeff Tedford project. And as we all know, Tedford has been responsible for some of the biggest busts throughout the years at the QB position. I wish him the best, but I'm a little concerned about his ability to run an NFL Style offense. I don't think he's the headcase that Joey Harrington was/is, but at the same time, I'm not sure if he's the natural born leader that Favre was.

There is a new thought by NFL analyst: "A draft analyst at NFL.com says there's a good chance the Packers will take another quarterback in the first round of the draft.

Pat Kirwan predicts Green Bay will come away with Brian Brohm of Louisville with the 30th overall pick. Kirwan would be tapped to serve as a backup to Aaron Rodgers, if he came to Green Bay." If i am correct he also predicted Harrel. What effect if any will this have on A-Rod if it happens?

hudsonstarobserver.com/articles/index.cfm?id=28461&section=homepage

I remember espn gave Rodgers was given a 99 grade. Only people since then to get a 99 are Calvin and Mario I believe......

he would not be a 99 now with his injury concerns

That's assuming that Brian Brohm falls to 30. If he's there, I don't see how the Packers CAN'T take him. He's got all the tools to develop into a franchise QB, while Aaron Rodgers still gets his chance to prove himself (i.e. the situation in Cleveland last season). Now, if Brohm is gone, I have to assume that the Packers will be in the hunt for something else. I can't see them taking a reach on the 3rd best QB prospect in the draft.

True, but I see the Pack waiting later to get a develpmental type:Ainge, Booty, O'Connell or Dixon.

i don't see the packers waiting past their first 3 picks to draft a Quarterback. They know what is at stake. They may be looking for a developmental guy later, but they are also going to look for a developed guy like Henne or Woodson, even Flacco if feasible. They know of Rodgers injury history. They know what happens to good teams with bad quarterbacks. it is the position with the least depth, and also the greatest importance. Everyone this year is thinking Cornerback, and calling everyone else with a different opinion crazy. The corners are not bad, but had 2 bad games out of 18. The thought that 5-7 of the best corners could be off the board eliminates a corner as BPA. Guard would fill 2 needs, as taking filling a starting guard spot, and develop a future starting Tackle. That would also be a stretch because of all the young prospects they have on the line. Running back would be the next spot they could draft. They may get a good prospect, though they may not see a prospect worth taking at 30, and may address it in the second. then there is TE. there are a few good TE prospects worth taking at 30. Martellus Bennett and Fred Davis. I think this could be a strong possibility, though may be a stretch this early. That leaves only a few positions available. With a run on defensive players early and often this year, BPA may again be a QB. I see them trying to move down, though no one wants to pay first round dollars. if they are stuck, then they may want to improve their weakest position, which happens to be QB

Packers are in a funny spot.

They have the talent to win now. I agree that they will wait to take a QB until later.

That being said, I think Rodgers is a bum and they should go QB in the 1st, thats just me.

As a bears fan, I have seen my fair share of bum QBs!

Turnoverasaurous Rex

HEY NOW!!!!! I like going from the super bowl until pre-season without reading, hearing or saying any Bear QB names!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apparently the nfl doesnt care that its Aaron Rodgers first game schedulin his first game under the bright lights of monday nite against the rival vikings...at least its a home game though lol

And I definitely also think the Packers believe that Rodgers can develop into the qb they want n need wit a lil time so i dont see them taking a qb in the draft till later on

I was right then, and I am right now, the packers are not waiting till later on. The packers said they will not be afraid to take a qb in the first. Take that with a grain of salt in essence it means that the packers want good trade value from a team willing to move up or they will take one of the QBs off the board from a team that need him more. I think QB may be BPA, Henne is a steal in the second. Flacco has the strongest arm of the group. Matt Ryan may not be the best QB in the group, and some one will get a heeck of a QB at a discount. Sounds like BPA to me.

They said there not afraid to take a QB early, but that doesn't mean they will, and they doesn't mean their afraid to wait. I think they wait until the 3rd to 5th.

yea thas pretty much what I was saying definitely dont think 1st could c 2nd but 3-5 sounds like a good time that they would call a qbs name out

Okay first lets stop calling people busts before they even hit the field that is getting played out. Rodgers was a good player in college who made alot happen with a very average group of WRs. his mechanics are about as good as you get and in the dallas game he showed a live arm with balls that had good velocity what more do you want? HE IS NOT BRETT FAVRE!!! But he won't get a fair shot because people are already ripping him apart and have seen nothing bad from him. he was in the worst position a QB in the nfl could have, sitting behind brett. look at matt hassleback he rode the pine and GB and he turned out pretty darn good right?if Green Bay Drafts a QB in the first round they are idiots they have an aging secondary and an emerging running game that culd use another mauler up front to worry about look for antoine cason/aqib talib in the first then chilo rachal/oniel cousins in the second

would definitely love for them to get cason and cousins def would be an awesome start to the draft for them with those picks

They also mite sign Daunte Culpepper as the backup Qb to Aaron Rodgers, he visited them on wednesday and so far is his only visit. Another sign prolly that they wont pick a QB in the 1st rd and would later on maybe if they do. The question as Packers fans would be would we want Culpepper as a backup or a qb in the 3-5 rd range? Culpepper does bring veteran leadership but injuries as well. A young gun would have no experience and if there is an injury id rather having Culpepper come in than a rookie. I do think tho if they sign Culpepper they should take another qb in the draft jus 4-6 rd range prolly for me. wat do yall think?

I told everyone tha the packers wouyld be taking a QB in the first 3 picks, and Brohm goes at 56 to the pack, my next prediction;; a Fullback 3-5th rounds