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PatriotofMaine
This should be cool...
Asteinebach
So far? Kansas City grabbing up Glenn Dorsey and Brendon Albert. No doubt about it.
RedRaider80
DUmbest taking Ryan over Dorsey...
Broncosfan713
Denver taking Eddie Royal over DeSean Jackson... wacko.gif

Mike Shanahan might be the worst personnel man in the league.
Asteinebach
No, no, no. I got you all beat.

Gosder Cherilus over Rashard Mendenhall and Jeff Otah

THEN

Jordon Dizon over Dan Connor, Calais Campbell, Chad Henne, and Jamaal Charles
jwest
Dumbest:
-The Chiefs not taking the trade offer from the Saints at the #5 pick. They certainly got a great player in Dorsey, but they could have done much better with the extra picks.

-The Panthers giving up a 2nd, 4th, and their 2009 1st rounder for Jeff Otah. Think John Fox and Co. feel like they've got to win now or find themselves jobless after this season?

Smartest:
-Miami getting the franchise LT at #1 and then grabbing a top DE and QB in the second round. They're reloading nicely.
ramsdraft1029
Dumbest: Titians drafting Chris Johnson

Smartest: Kenny Phillips going to the giants
Asteinebach
How about Jerod Mayo to New England at 10? Simply brilliant.
yerckson3420
Dumbest by far to me is Green Bay taking a wideout when they have; Driver, Jones and Jennings

Pitt just took to BPA's argueably with Mendenhal and Sweed.

Close to dumbest is bears not trading back into the 2nd before GB and MIA took Brohm and Henne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
t_HOG33
I got you all beat......

Ravens taking Flacco at 18

ORRRRRRRR

Ravens taking a running back period, none the less Ray Rice in Round two....I don't think I could be more dissapointed
yerckson3420
As fans of other teams, what do you think of the bears draft? Not sexy or exciting. But looking back at all the OT that went too early, my buddy pointed out that it was a good thing we skipped Mandenhall and took an o-line man, there may have been none by our pick in the 2nd.

As far as the Forte pick, only time will tell. Detroit would have likely taken him next, so if Angelo wanted him he would have to get him then.

I don't have a problem with the draft, drafting Williams (a guy who some think will be the best pass blocking tackle in this draft) means we can move Tait to the right side. Our line is already better now than last season. I hope Forte turns out to be as good as CDS reported a while back. I believe they said Jamal Lewis "potential".
PatriotofMaine
QUOTE (yerckson3420 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:26:19 PM) *
As fans of other teams, what do you think of the bears draft? Not sexy or exciting. But looking back at all the OT that went too early, my buddy pointed out that it was a good thing we skipped Mandenhall and took an o-line man, there may have been none by our pick in the 2nd.

As far as the Forte pick, only time will tell. Detroit would have likely taken him next, so if Angelo wanted him he would have to get him then.

I don't have a problem with the draft, drafting Williams (a guy who some think will be the best pass blocking tackle in this draft) means we can move Tait to the right side. Our line is already better now than last season. I hope Forte turns out to be as good as CDS reported a while back. I believe they said Jamal Lewis "potential".



Not bad. Rumors had Williams sliding, but I guess the Bears feel he'll be OK, even with the health issue and the 21 reps. He'll never be a killer in the run game, but his feet are among the best of all the LOT candidates.

Forte was a GREAT choice. He's got a lot of tread on the tires, but he is as good a power back as Mendenhall. Very nice value pick at a position of need.
NinerFan85
Dumbest move: Detroit taking RT Gosder Cherilus over RB Rashard Mendenhall.

This one takes the cake and its not even all that close. I like Cherilus but to pass on a need and the most talented player left on the board is just...I don't even know what words to use.

Side Note: +1 to jwest, I agree that KC gets a player in Dorsey but to turn down that offer was ballsy. I would have taken an 08/09 1st and a 08 2nd, especially in a situation like KC's. Other than that, they had a good draft. Albert at 15 is solid value.

Smartest: Give it up to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Mendenhall and Sweed were excellent, excellent value picks.
Johanns21
I liked the Bears draft. Williams was the best available at 13. In my opinion I don't think Albert will be as good at LT as Williams. I've thought all along that it would be smart for the Bears to get a tackle in round one and then look for a runningback in round two or three because there will be better runningbacks in round two or three than there will be offensive lineman. I would have liked them to draft Henne in round two, but I am happy with Forte. He should provide some compition with Bensen and hopefully he steps up. I just don't know who the Bears should take as a quarterback in the later rounds. I really hope they dont' draft Woodson. Booty would be ok, but I kinda hope they take Johnson and let him develop for at least a year, then depending on how Grossman or Orton do this next year he might be able to sit another year or come in and take over.
Johanns21
I think that the Eagles got a pretty good trade when they moved down. I can't remember off the top of my head, but they got quite a bit for moving down.
B_rent87
I liked this Pick after all, but I will say Denver Drafting Clady was "the Dumbest Move" Because he was the Dumbest Player HAHA!
nyjetsfan94
I think those Lions picks of Gosder Cherilus and Jordon Dizon are why the Lions are horrible drafters. They should've taken Mendenhall and Connor when they were there. I also don't like the Titans pick of Chris Johnson either, neither do I like Jason Jones. Limas Sweed was still there both times and I really though they were after him all along.
bwalker
QUOTE (nyjetsfan94 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:12:30 PM) *
I think those Lions picks of Gosder Cherilus and Jordon Dizon are why the Lions are horrible drafters. They should've taken Mendenhall and Connor when they were there. As some Steeler fans may not like the pick of Mendenhall, I don't think it is a bad pick at all. I sure hope Dan Connor falls to US at Round 4 lol



I think most Steeler fans are stoked with the Mendenhall pick. Steeler fans knew if Jonathan Stewart was on the board we'd nab him. The thinking was Mendenhall would be long gone. Fast Willie has taken on too big of a load and is coming off a broken fibula. It may not be need #1 but when someone like that is slips down you have to pounce. Plus the Steelers couldn't grind out the 4th Qtr like in the days of Bettis. This will help keep an aging D off the field. Steeler fans are fired up with this pick and the Limas Sweed pick. They had Sweed in their top 25.
B_rent87
EDDIE ROYAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!
ramsdraft1029
I liked the rice pick because you need a 2nd back in this league and their were not many options left at that pick. I am starting to like the rams picking avery.
nyjetsfan94
QUOTE (t_HOG33 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:11:47 PM) *
I got you all beat......

Ravens taking Flacco at 18

ORRRRRRRR

Ravens taking a running back period, none the less Ray Rice in Round two....I don't think I could be more dissapointed


Yo t_HOG33, I like the pick of Ray Rice for you guys and I know him very well. I still think you didn't have to trade up anyway for Flacco after you made the deal with the Jags to reach for him at 18 but all along I knew you were going to get him at 26 if the Bucs didn't snag him. Back to Rice, I lived near him and my friend went to high school with him. He's had a very productive college career, great character, and he is going to do well with you guys. I think with your third you can get a great cornerback (Maybe Justin King or Tyvon Branch if they are there or even Charles Godfrey).
PatriotofMaine
QUOTE (nyjetsfan94 @ Apr 27 2008, 7:40:52 AM) *
Yo t_HOG33, I like the pick of Ray Rice for you guys and I know him very well. I still think you didn't have to trade up anyway for Flacco after you made the deal with the Jags to reach for him at 18 but all along I knew you were going to get him at 26 if the Bucs didn't snag him. Back to Rice, I lived near him and my friend went to high school with him. He's had a very productive college career, great character, and he is going to do well with you guys. I think with your third you can get a great cornerback (Maybe Justin King or Tyvon Branch if they are there or even Charles Godfrey).



How was my prediction of Terrence Wheatley to NE at #69? Yea, they got him at #62 instead, but hey...Nobody else probably even thought he'd go before Round 4.
t_HOG33
QUOTE (nyjetsfan94 @ Apr 27 2008, 8:40:52 AM) *
Yo t_HOG33, I like the pick of Ray Rice for you guys and I know him very well. I still think you didn't have to trade up anyway for Flacco after you made the deal with the Jags to reach for him at 18 but all along I knew you were going to get him at 26 if the Bucs didn't snag him. Back to Rice, I lived near him and my friend went to high school with him. He's had a very productive college career, great character, and he is going to do well with you guys. I think with your third you can get a great cornerback (Maybe Justin King or Tyvon Branch if they are there or even Charles Godfrey).



No I mean I think Rice is dirty, I just think we could have got him with one of our round threes and I don't see runningback as a need at all. I was really excited to see Corey Ross next season get some PT but I guess that ain't happenin'....

As for Flacco I wanted Ryan, but wouldnt have been even more disapointed if we picked up Brohm or Henne so I guess I cant complain too much....

In Round three I hope we go oline OR DEFENSE!!!!!

Has Cliff Avril been taken yet?????
COLTSFAN21
How bout chargers taking a cb???????????????they have jammer cromartie and paul oliver????????

way overdone on tackles

this is biased but i LOVE the colts pickup of pollack....will be a solid player foor years to come..

what the helll are the packers doing???r the gonna run 6 wide with rodgers/brohm
packfan36450
QUOTE (COLTSFAN21 @ Apr 27 2008, 9:23:11 AM) *
How bout chargers taking a cb???????????????they have jammer cromartie and paul oliver????????

way overdone on tackles

this is biased but i LOVE the colts pickup of pollack....will be a solid player foor years to come..

what the helll are the packers doing???r the gonna run 6 wide with rodgers/brohm


pollack sucks. they are going to release robinson and run the 5 WR package like last year.. Driver Jennings Jones Nelson and Martin... driver is getting older and jones and jennings are still unproven so i get the pick. Are you serious? they need brohm you might have missed it but Favre retired.. That was a huge steal..
t_HOG33
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Apr 27 2008, 9:31:22 AM) *
pollack sucks. they are going to release robinson and run the 5 WR package like last year.. Driver Jennings Jones Nelson and Martin... driver is getting older and jones and jennings are still unproven so i get the pick. Are you serious? they need brohm you might have missed it but Favre retired.. That was a huge steal..



LOL

How about Baltimore passing up Cliff Avril? Makes no sense to me....
packfan36450
QUOTE (t_HOG33 @ Apr 27 2008, 8:32:49 AM) *
LOL

How about Baltimore passing up Cliff Avril? Makes no sense to me....


I think the Ravens are having a pretty good draft. They moved up a little to far for Flacco but they desperately need a QB. Also, Ray rice was a steal. If he would've ran a 4.4 he would be a first rounder for sure
Johanns21
I think the chargers took a corner cause they are probably going to move Oliver to saftey.
t_HOG33
QUOTE (packfan36450 @ Apr 27 2008, 10:34:34 AM) *
I think the Ravens are having a pretty good draft. They moved up a little to far for Flacco but they desperately need a QB. Also, Ray rice was a steal. If he would've ran a 4.4 he would be a first rounder for sure



Yeah but we dont need a runningback and we sure as hell dont need a safety and just passed Avril AGAIN! to take a special teams player! I could NOT be more dissapointed in John Harbaugh right now......Zbikowski is great but in round 3? With Avril and Manningham on the board still? and Nicks and Collins???? I dont get it and I dont think its going to pan out
chiefsfan27
Cherilus was one of the stupidest move. But what about Duane Brown. Did anyone even have him in the top half of the second. Texans reached like balls on that pick.
Packdogs
Dumb:

(18) Baltimore Ravens (From Texans) Flacco, Joe QB 6'7" 236 Delaware
(26) Houston Texans (From Jaguars through Ravens) Brown, Duane OT 6'4" 315 Virginia Tech
(45) Detroit Lions Dizon, Jordon OLB 6'0" 229 Colorado
Good player but trade up to #8??? (8) Jacksonville Jaguars (From Ravens) Harvey, Derrick DE 6'5" 252 Florida

????:

The trade up for (19) Carolina Panthers (From Eagles) Otah, Jeff OT 6'6" 340 Pittsburgh
I didn't know this name (80) Philadelphia Eagles Smith, Bryan OLB 6'2" 228 McNeese State
These WR before DeSean Jackson (they must of not liked Jackson outside the game aka practice and off the field (46) Cincinnati Bengals Simpson, Jerome WR 6'2" 190 Coastal Carolina and (42) Denver Broncos Royal, Eddie WR 5'10" 184 Virginia Tech

Good:

Chiefs Round 1, Pick 5 (5) Glenn Dorsey DT 6'2" 316 LSU
Chiefs Round 1, Pick 15 (15) (From Lions) Branden Albert OG 6'6" 309 Virginia
12 (43) Minnesota Vikings (From Panthers through Eagles) Johnson, Tyrell FS 6'0" 207 Arkansas State

[+] 13 (44) Chicago Bears Forte, Matt RB 6'2" 222 Tulane
Panthers Round 3, Pick 4 (67) (From Jets) Charles Godfrey FS 6'0" 207 Iowa
Panthers Round 3, Pick 11 (74) Dan Connor OLB 6'3" 233 Penn State
Packdogs
QUOTE (chiefsfan27 @ Apr 29 2008, 7:34:20 PM) *
Cherilus was one of the stupidest move. But what about Duane Brown. Did anyone even have him in the top half of the second. Texans reached like balls on that pick.


Some people had him in their 1st. I didn't have him until the 3rd... He has talent but he's a huge project IMO... also he was said to be in the 4th (by most mock drafters) until he gain 25 pounds, at his pro day...which he hasn't every played with, and then he shot up the boards, because he had weight to go with the talent (or that what people said)

nyyjones
QUOTE (nyjetsfan94 @ Apr 26 2008, 10:12:30 PM) *
I think those Lions picks of Gosder Cherilus and Jordon Dizon are why the Lions are horrible drafters. They should've taken Mendenhall and Connor when they were there. I also don't like the Titans pick of Chris Johnson either, neither do I like Jason Jones. Limas Sweed was still there both times and I really though they were after him all along.



QUOTE (bwalker @ Apr 26 2008, 10:24:06 PM) *
I think most Steeler fans are stoked with the Mendenhall pick. Steeler fans knew if Jonathan Stewart was on the board we'd nab him. The thinking was Mendenhall would be long gone. Fast Willie has taken on too big of a load and is coming off a broken fibula. It may not be need #1 but when someone like that is slips down you have to pounce. Plus the Steelers couldn't grind out the 4th Qtr like in the days of Bettis. This will help keep an aging D off the field. Steeler fans are fired up with this pick and the Limas Sweed pick. They had Sweed in their top 25.

I too disagree with the selection of Dizon at the slot he was selected, but I don't think Cherilus is such a bad pick. He really was out of position last year at OLT for BC, and should make a very good ORT in the pros. If Detroit is set on becoming more of a power team, as they've stated, the ORT is a valuable weapon.

There are a few reasons I think Mendenhall fell, not the least of which is his lack of speed and shiftiness. If the Lions had selected him, Matt Millen would likely have been hunted down and stoned. Playing indoors on Detroit's artificial turf it's likely he would have been exposed for what he essentially is...a plodder. It's okay to have a power back on your team to get the tough yards when you need them, but not as a feature back, where you need either speed or elusiveness, or both. Detroit also plays in the same division as the Vikings, which is another indoor stadium where you need a more elusive and fast RB. In Pittsburgh, he has a much better chance to succeed at the pro level since they play in the elements, as do their division rivals. IMO, he'll never beat out Willie Parker, who has true game breaking speed but has a hard time getting into the end zone. This, is where I believe you'll see Mendenhall's biggest contributions along with Davenport, if they keep Davenport. I personally don't have a problem with the Cherilus selection at all, and do not look at it as a dumb move.
Mr. Knowitall
QUOTE (Packdogs @ May 17 2008, 8:13:51 PM) *
Dumb:

(18) Baltimore Ravens (From Texans) Flacco, Joe QB 6'7" 236 Delaware
(26) Houston Texans (From Jaguars through Ravens) Brown, Duane OT 6'4" 315 Virginia Tech
(45) Detroit Lions Dizon, Jordon OLB 6'0" 229 Colorado
Good player but trade up to #8??? (8) Jacksonville Jaguars (From Ravens) Harvey, Derrick DE 6'5" 252 Florida

????:

The trade up for (19) Carolina Panthers (From Eagles) Otah, Jeff OT 6'6" 340 Pittsburgh
I didn't know this name (80) Philadelphia Eagles Smith, Bryan OLB 6'2" 228 McNeese State
These WR before DeSean Jackson (they must of not liked Jackson outside the game aka practice and off the field (46) Cincinnati Bengals Simpson, Jerome WR 6'2" 190 Coastal Carolina and (42) Denver Broncos Royal, Eddie WR 5'10" 184 Virginia Tech

Good:

Chiefs Round 1, Pick 5 (5) Glenn Dorsey DT 6'2" 316 LSU
Chiefs Round 1, Pick 15 (15) (From Lions) Branden Albert OG 6'6" 309 Virginia
12 (43) Minnesota Vikings (From Panthers through Eagles) Johnson, Tyrell FS 6'0" 207 Arkansas State

[+] 13 (44) Chicago Bears Forte, Matt RB 6'2" 222 Tulane
Panthers Round 3, Pick 4 (67) (From Jets) Charles Godfrey FS 6'0" 207 Iowa
Panthers Round 3, Pick 11 (74) Dan Connor OLB 6'3" 233 Penn State

I think the Duane Brown pick was NOT a bad move, this guy could be the best LT in the draft.
cjs206
QUOTE (Mr. Knowitall @ May 19 2008, 6:28:52 PM) *
I think the Duane Brown pick was NOT a bad move, this guy could be the best LT in the draft.


Yes, but David Vobora COULD be the best LB in the draft. The key word in there is could, but the fact of the matter is that Duane Brown quite simply at this stage of his playing career and development was not worth a 1st round pick. To be honest, I'm not even sure he was worth a 2nd round pick. Anyone in this draft COULD turn out to be a ProBowl player (see Brady, Tom; 6th round), but you have to base draft picks by their current ability and development. Brown needs a fair bit of work if he's going to become a reasonable LT and I don't think he will be a starting quality LT until at least 2010. He may start before then, as the Texans O-Line has more holes than swiss cheese, but he will struggle.
bwalker
Yeah potential means you haven't done it yet.
Brown was never that impressive on tape so it was a reach. At least he didn't look like a first rounder should look on tape.
PatriotofMaine
QUOTE (cjs206 @ May 20 2008, 7:38:38 AM) *
Yes, but David Vobora COULD be the best LB in the draft. The key word in there is could, but the fact of the matter is that Duane Brown quite simply at this stage of his playing career and development was not worth a 1st round pick. To be honest, I'm not even sure he was worth a 2nd round pick. Anyone in this draft COULD turn out to be a ProBowl player (see Brady, Tom; 6th round), but you have to base draft picks by their current ability and development. Brown needs a fair bit of work if he's going to become a reasonable LT and I don't think he will be a starting quality LT until at least 2010. He may start before then, as the Texans O-Line has more holes than swiss cheese, but he will struggle.



I agree with cjs. Had Vobora played at a big time school, he would have likely been drafted by the end of round 4. The kid can play. He has it all. Smarts, toughness, diagnostics, decent size.
Guest_Packdogs_*
QUOTE (Mr. Knowitall @ May 19 2008, 11:28:52 AM) *
I think the Duane Brown pick was NOT a bad move, this guy could be the best LT in the draft.


Yeah, but so could

Round 5, Pick 29 (164) (From Patriots) Carl Nicks OT 6'5" 341 Nebraska

And he wasn't trade up for in the 1st round.
Mr. Knowitall
QUOTE (cjs206 @ May 20 2008, 6:38:38 AM) *
Yes, but David Vobora COULD be the best LB in the draft. The key word in there is could, but the fact of the matter is that Duane Brown quite simply at this stage of his playing career and development was not worth a 1st round pick. To be honest, I'm not even sure he was worth a 2nd round pick. Anyone in this draft COULD turn out to be a ProBowl player (see Brady, Tom; 6th round), but you have to base draft picks by their current ability and development. Brown needs a fair bit of work if he's going to become a reasonable LT and I don't think he will be a starting quality LT until at least 2010. He may start before then, as the Texans O-Line has more holes than swiss cheese, but he will struggle.

I think he will be a great LT before you expect it, I think he will be like Tony Ugoh and Marcus McNeil where he will not be expected to come in and be great but he will come in and take a couple of games to adjust but by the end of the season be an excellent player. There also is another guy to watch out for named Charles Spencer who is coming off of a broken leg but could contributes greatly for Houston at OG or RT.

QUOTE (Guest_Packdogs_* @ May 20 2008, 11:41:36 AM) *
Yeah, but so could

Round 5, Pick 29 (164) (From Patriots) Carl Nicks OT 6'5" 341 Nebraska

And he wasn't trade up for in the 1st round.

There was a reason Nicks dropped that far, actually there were quite a few:
1. Character issues
2. Deemed uncoachable by Nebraska Coaches
3. Deemed a Bad teammate
nyyjones
QUOTE (RedRaider80 @ Apr 26 2008, 7:11:13 PM) *
DUmbest taking Ryan over Dorsey...

I'm wondering how you feel today?
nyyjones
QUOTE (jwest @ Apr 26 2008, 8:31:11 PM) *
Dumbest:
-The Chiefs not taking the trade offer from the Saints at the #5 pick. They certainly got a great player in Dorsey, but they could have done much better with the extra picks.

-The Panthers giving up a 2nd, 4th, and their 2009 1st rounder for Jeff Otah. Think John Fox and Co. feel like they've got to win now or find themselves jobless after this season?

Smartest:
-Miami getting the franchise LT at #1 and then grabbing a top DE and QB in the second round. They're reloading nicely.

After a careful review of everyone's reply to Steve's post here, your's, jwest, is the only one that truly makes sense...IMO. Good job.
B_rent87
QUOTE (Broncosfan713 @ Apr 27 2008, 12:31:17 AM) *
Denver taking Eddie Royal over DeSean Jackson... wacko.gif

Mike Shanahan might be the worst personnel man in the league.

HAHAHA
B_rent87
QUOTE (ramsdraft1029 @ Apr 27 2008, 2:00:14 AM) *
Dumbest: Titians drafting Chris Johnson

Smartest: Kenny Phillips going to the giants

HAHAHA
B_rent87
QUOTE (B_rent87 @ Apr 27 2008, 4:02:13 AM) *
I liked this Pick after all, but I will say Denver Drafting Clady was "the Dumbest Move" Because he was the Dumbest Player HAHA!

HAHAHA
B_rent87
QUOTE (t_HOG33 @ Apr 27 2008, 3:11:47 AM) *
I got you all beat......

Ravens taking Flacco at 18

ORRRRRRRR

Ravens taking a running back period, none the less Ray Rice in Round two....I don't think I could be more dissapointed

HAHAHAHA
B_rent87
QUOTE (B_rent87 @ Apr 27 2008, 4:26:25 AM) *
EDDIE ROYAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!

GEEEZ I'm Sexy for this one!
Johanns21
Yeah it is pretty interesting to see what everybody's thoughts where the day after the draft.
yerckson3420
its funny some of the gut reactions of hating or loving a pick on that day. Only coming to find out later how wrong we could be.

I try not to get to high or low on draft day because you can't truely judge a draft until a few years later.

I personally love the Chris Johnson and Joe Flacco being voted as bad. The Eddie Royal over Desean Jackson blunder is funnty too.

I like this thread, it can be a reminder to chill out on draft day.

I am guilty of liking (not loving) every pick my team makes on draft day.
RedRaider80
You should go to the 18 page one or wahtevr and see what I say about Ryan over Dorsey lmao. Man was I wrong lol
bcdrama
Some of us do look like prophets-
QUOTE
Dumbest:
-The Chiefs not taking the trade offer from the Saints at the #5 pick. They certainly got a great player in Dorsey, but they could have done much better with the extra picks.

-The Panthers giving up a 2nd, 4th, and their 2009 1st rounder for Jeff Otah. Think John Fox and Co. feel like they've got to win now or find themselves jobless after this season?

Smartest:
-Miami getting the franchise LT at #1 and then grabbing a top DE and QB in the second round. They're reloading nicely.

QUOTE
Jordon Dizon over Dan Connor, Calais Campbell, Chad Henne, and Jamaal Charles

QUOTE (Mr. Knowitall @ May 21 2008, 2:28:31 AM) *
I think he will be a great LT before you expect it, I think he will be like Tony Ugoh and Marcus McNeil where he will not be expected to come in and be great but he will come in and take a couple of games to adjust but by the end of the season be an excellent player. There also is another guy to watch out for named Charles Spencer who is coming off of a broken leg but could contributes greatly for Houston at OG or RT.


There was a reason Nicks dropped that far, actually there were quite a few:
1. Character issues
2. Deemed uncoachable by Nebraska Coaches
3. Deemed a Bad teammate

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