The most nauseating story of the summer may finally be winding down. ESPFavre is reporting #4 will be headed to New York in exchange for a singular conditional draft pick.
I'll give a more in depth look at this at training camp when I can find a day to get over to Hofstra.
Full Version: Brett Favre traded to the Jets
QUOTE (gpngc @ Aug 7 2008, 1:08:41 AM) 
The most nauseating story of the summer may finally be winding down. ESPFavre is reporting #4 will be headed to New York in exchange for a singular conditional draft pick.
I'll give a more in depth look at this at training camp when I can find a day to get over to Hofstra.
I'll give a more in depth look at this at training camp when I can find a day to get over to Hofstra.
Could this move come back to haunt the Packers...if Pennington signed with the Bears?
Better hope the Jets don't trade him to the Vikes, gpngc 
Adam Schefter of NFL Network has said if the Jets trade Favre to the Vikings, the Jets would owe the Packers three first-round picks...the ol' "poison pill" clause.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network has said if the Jets trade Favre to the Vikings, the Jets would owe the Packers three first-round picks...the ol' "poison pill" clause.
This trade causes a whole lot of repercussions and intrigue which I'm going to blog about a bit later, but IMO this has to be the wrong decision by the Packers.
For those with any interest, the blog item is now available.
Bottom line...that's the reasoning the Jets used to make this trade. They are moving, along with the Giants into a brand new stadium, and have to fill some seats...seats that season ticket holders need to pay a "tax or fee" on that averages around $5000.00+ per seat, besides the cost of the tickets. How many tickets do you think they sell without Favre, vs. with Favre? Whether or not Favre is a success on the field or not does not matter in the least bit to them. He is already paying off in the way they envisioned when it comes to...the bottom line. Sure, Mangini, the other coaches and player want to win and make the playoffs, but even with Favre, it's more likely they don't make it to the playoffs than it is they make the playoffs.
Here's my view of the reality of the situation facing Favre in NY.
The system is different, and the terminology is different that Favre will be playing in for the Jets, vs. what he's grown accustomed to in Green Bay for 16 years. He is a veteran, but it's not like Favre has ever been accused of being one of the more cerebral QBs...gunslinger, yes...great reader of defenses...never. He's a gambler, and in NY, in Giants stadium, that's likely to work against him...more on that in a minute. He's only been adequate in his ability to read a defense at best. Add to that getting on the same page as his new WRs, and the season could be over before it starts. Favre also throws a hard ball that the Jet WRs need to learn how to catch, meaning there will likely be a lot of dropped balls this year in NY. There's also a high turnover on the OL, so if that unit does not come together quickly, Favre's consecutive game streak could end quickly. This is a veteran unit though, so that may not be as much as a factor as the QB/WR synchronization. Another likely scenario, although Favre has played in the cold, he has not played in a stadium where the wind, usually swirling and unpredictable, is nearly the factor it likely will be in NY on his passes...this was likely a factor as to why Eli played so well on the road. If he remains the Favre of old...the gambling gunslinger trying to thread the needle...and tries to force a ball into coverage in those winds, he'll likely set a personal interception record.
More reality. Looking at the Jets' schedule, I could not come up with anymore than 9 wins at best, and 8 is a more likely result. In their own division, I still like NE to win, and IMO, Buffalo is a better team too. Add in Indy, Jacksonville, and Tennessee, and I think all 3 of those teams are more likely to make the playoffs than the Jets. You also have Denver and Oakland (I'm less sold on the Raiders than most, and for many reasons, but since they are being touted in the pre-season as a playoff dark horse, I'll mention them).
So, at some point during the season, when reality sinks into the brains of the now euphorias Jets fans...ol' No. 4...the future Hall of Famer...is likely to hear some boos when the winds of December get a hold of one of his "gambles," and it's run back for another TD.
The bottom line of the Jets dealing for Brett Favre...is the bottom line...and so is this.
Here's my view of the reality of the situation facing Favre in NY.
The system is different, and the terminology is different that Favre will be playing in for the Jets, vs. what he's grown accustomed to in Green Bay for 16 years. He is a veteran, but it's not like Favre has ever been accused of being one of the more cerebral QBs...gunslinger, yes...great reader of defenses...never. He's a gambler, and in NY, in Giants stadium, that's likely to work against him...more on that in a minute. He's only been adequate in his ability to read a defense at best. Add to that getting on the same page as his new WRs, and the season could be over before it starts. Favre also throws a hard ball that the Jet WRs need to learn how to catch, meaning there will likely be a lot of dropped balls this year in NY. There's also a high turnover on the OL, so if that unit does not come together quickly, Favre's consecutive game streak could end quickly. This is a veteran unit though, so that may not be as much as a factor as the QB/WR synchronization. Another likely scenario, although Favre has played in the cold, he has not played in a stadium where the wind, usually swirling and unpredictable, is nearly the factor it likely will be in NY on his passes...this was likely a factor as to why Eli played so well on the road. If he remains the Favre of old...the gambling gunslinger trying to thread the needle...and tries to force a ball into coverage in those winds, he'll likely set a personal interception record.
More reality. Looking at the Jets' schedule, I could not come up with anymore than 9 wins at best, and 8 is a more likely result. In their own division, I still like NE to win, and IMO, Buffalo is a better team too. Add in Indy, Jacksonville, and Tennessee, and I think all 3 of those teams are more likely to make the playoffs than the Jets. You also have Denver and Oakland (I'm less sold on the Raiders than most, and for many reasons, but since they are being touted in the pre-season as a playoff dark horse, I'll mention them).
So, at some point during the season, when reality sinks into the brains of the now euphorias Jets fans...ol' No. 4...the future Hall of Famer...is likely to hear some boos when the winds of December get a hold of one of his "gambles," and it's run back for another TD.
The bottom line of the Jets dealing for Brett Favre...is the bottom line...and so is this.
I agree that everyone is sick of this story. Anybody remember that late 1980s movie, "Everybody's All American" with Dennis Quaid and Jessica Lange? Anyways that's who Brett Favre reminds me of at this point. A guy who can't let go of the attention and is annoying everyone else.
This one of those situations that diminished all involved at least a little, but Thompson and Murphy have potentially the most to lose, a 5-11 or 6-10 year in GB means they'd better Kevlar up and have someone start their cars! 
QUOTE (bwalker @ Aug 8 2008, 2:42:42 PM)
I agree that everyone is sick of this story. Anybody remember that late 1980s movie, "Everybody's All American" with Dennis Quaid and Jessica Lange? Anyways that's who Brett Favre reminds me of at this point. A guy who can't let go of the attention and is annoying everyone else.
The things that made Favre look so much better the last season was: improvement of the teams general talent level, an increased level of trust and communication with the rapidly developing Greg Jennings and James Jones, lastly the emergence of Ryan Grant in the last 2/3 of the season a a bona fide ground threat. How many of those things will he find in NY [well New Jersey really]? 
The Jury is out on who really won or lost in this deal.
The Jury is out on who really won or lost in this deal.QUOTE (nyyjones @ Aug 8 2008, 1:44:16 AM)
Bottom line...that's the reasoning the Jets used to make this trade. They are moving, along with the Giants into a brand new stadium, and have to fill some seats...seats that season ticket holders need to pay a "tax or fee" on that averages around $5000.00+ per seat, besides the cost of the tickets. How many tickets do you think they sell without Favre, vs. with Favre? Whether or not Favre is a success on the field or not does not matter in the least bit to them. He is already paying off in the way they envisioned when it comes to...the bottom line. Sure, Mangini, the other coaches and player want to win and make the playoffs, but even with Favre, it's more likely they don't make it to the playoffs than it is they make the playoffs.
Here's my view of the reality of the situation facing Favre in NY.
The system is different, and the terminology is different that Favre will be playing in for the Jets, vs. what he's grown accustomed to in Green Bay for 16 years. He is a veteran, but it's not like Favre has ever been accused of being one of the more cerebral QBs...gunslinger, yes...great reader of defenses...never. He's a gambler, and in NY, in Giants stadium, that's likely to work against him...more on that in a minute. He's only been adequate in his ability to read a defense at best. Add to that getting on the same page as his new WRs, and the season could be over before it starts. Favre also throws a hard ball that the Jet WRs need to learn how to catch, meaning there will likely be a lot of dropped balls this year in NY. There's also a high turnover on the OL, so if that unit does not come together quickly, Favre's consecutive game streak could end quickly. This is a veteran unit though, so that may not be as much as a factor as the QB/WR synchronization. Another likely scenario, although Favre has played in the cold, he has not played in a stadium where the wind, usually swirling and unpredictable, is nearly the factor it likely will be in NY on his passes...this was likely a factor as to why Eli played so well on the road. If he remains the Favre of old...the gambling gunslinger trying to thread the needle...and tries to force a ball into coverage in those winds, he'll likely set a personal interception record.
More reality. Looking at the Jets' schedule, I could not come up with anymore than 9 wins at best, and 8 is a more likely result. In their own division, I still like NE to win, and IMO, Buffalo is a better team too. Add in Indy, Jacksonville, and Tennessee, and I think all 3 of those teams are more likely to make the playoffs than the Jets. You also have Denver and Oakland (I'm less sold on the Raiders than most, and for many reasons, but since they are being touted in the pre-season as a playoff dark horse, I'll mention them).
So, at some point during the season, when reality sinks into the brains of the now euphorias Jets fans...ol' No. 4...the future Hall of Famer...is likely to hear some boos when the winds of December get a hold of one of his "gambles," and it's run back for another TD.
The bottom line of the Jets dealing for Brett Favre...is the bottom line...and so is this.
Here's my view of the reality of the situation facing Favre in NY.
The system is different, and the terminology is different that Favre will be playing in for the Jets, vs. what he's grown accustomed to in Green Bay for 16 years. He is a veteran, but it's not like Favre has ever been accused of being one of the more cerebral QBs...gunslinger, yes...great reader of defenses...never. He's a gambler, and in NY, in Giants stadium, that's likely to work against him...more on that in a minute. He's only been adequate in his ability to read a defense at best. Add to that getting on the same page as his new WRs, and the season could be over before it starts. Favre also throws a hard ball that the Jet WRs need to learn how to catch, meaning there will likely be a lot of dropped balls this year in NY. There's also a high turnover on the OL, so if that unit does not come together quickly, Favre's consecutive game streak could end quickly. This is a veteran unit though, so that may not be as much as a factor as the QB/WR synchronization. Another likely scenario, although Favre has played in the cold, he has not played in a stadium where the wind, usually swirling and unpredictable, is nearly the factor it likely will be in NY on his passes...this was likely a factor as to why Eli played so well on the road. If he remains the Favre of old...the gambling gunslinger trying to thread the needle...and tries to force a ball into coverage in those winds, he'll likely set a personal interception record.
More reality. Looking at the Jets' schedule, I could not come up with anymore than 9 wins at best, and 8 is a more likely result. In their own division, I still like NE to win, and IMO, Buffalo is a better team too. Add in Indy, Jacksonville, and Tennessee, and I think all 3 of those teams are more likely to make the playoffs than the Jets. You also have Denver and Oakland (I'm less sold on the Raiders than most, and for many reasons, but since they are being touted in the pre-season as a playoff dark horse, I'll mention them).
So, at some point during the season, when reality sinks into the brains of the now euphorias Jets fans...ol' No. 4...the future Hall of Famer...is likely to hear some boos when the winds of December get a hold of one of his "gambles," and it's run back for another TD.
The bottom line of the Jets dealing for Brett Favre...is the bottom line...and so is this.
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