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baywest
I had a lot of respect for the opinions of this site, until I saw in your new mock you had
William Beatty at number 32. If you have him there what are the combines for. He did better in the 40 , board jump, bench press, 3 cone drill ,then britton, oher,and moroe. He out did J smith in the 40, board jump, 3 cone drill. Moroe only beat him in the vertical and Jason smith only beat him in the bench and vertical. The rest of the sites don't see it your way. Are you saying the combines don't stay for anything? He was already at 32 in a lot of sites before combine. I have been following this kid and he has shown character. He needed to gain weight and he did, he needed to show up at the combine he did. He is a good example in what hard work can do and you don't give him the credit. He is the best pass and run blocker in the draft. Get it right , Call it fair. William is at least the number three line man in this draft.



NHFalcon
QUOTE (baywest @ Feb 23 2009, 2:19:25 AM) *
I had a lot of respect for the opinions of this site, until I saw in your new mock you had
William Beatty at number 32. If you have him there what are the combines for. He did better in the 40 , board jump, bench press, 3 cone drill ,then britton, oher,and moroe. He out did J smith in the 40, board jump, 3 cone drill. Moroe only beat him in the vertical and Jason smith only beat him in the bench and vertical. The rest of the sites don't see it your way. Are you saying the combines don't stay for anything? He was already at 32 in a lot of sites before combine. I have been following this kid and he has shown character. He needed to gain weight and he did, he needed to show up at the combine he did. He is a good example in what hard work can do and you don't give him the credit. He is the best pass and run blocker in the draft. Get it right , Call it fair. William is at least the number three line man in this draft.


Easy,baywest, easy. Everbody's entitled to their own opinion. The Combine is one of many measuring sticks for draft prospects, not the only one. Sure, impressive numbers will likely raise a player's chances of going higher, but it is not the only evaluation tool out there. There's the player's collegiate career as a whole, his performance in any all-star games he may have participated in, his interviews during the combine, his injury history, his Wonderlic score, whether or not his style of play fits a particular NFL team's scheme, his school's Pro Day (if he elects to participate in that), etc., etc., etc...

You may very well be right - he may go higher, perhaps much higher - in the first round, and if he does, kudos to you for calling it.

But it's also possible that we may be right. We''l see on April 25 - 26.

P. S. - remember every scout's mantra when it comes to Combine numbers: "Remember Mike Mamula?"
RichEisenIsGod
QUOTE (baywest @ Feb 23 2009, 2:19:25 AM) *
I had a lot of respect for the opinions of this site, until I saw in your new mock you had
William Beatty at number 32. If you have him there what are the combines for. He did better in the 40 , board jump, bench press, 3 cone drill ,then britton, oher,and moroe. He out did J smith in the 40, board jump, 3 cone drill. Moroe only beat him in the vertical and Jason smith only beat him in the bench and vertical. The rest of the sites don't see it your way. Are you saying the combines don't stay for anything? He was already at 32 in a lot of sites before combine. I have been following this kid and he has shown character. He needed to gain weight and he did, he needed to show up at the combine he did. He is a good example in what hard work can do and you don't give him the credit. He is the best pass and run blocker in the draft. Get it right , Call it fair. William is at least the number three line man in this draft.



1. Are you William Beatty?

2. Chill out, the combine isn't over, CDS has not updated yet.

3. The combine does count for something but it isn't everything, Beatty will most likely be the 5th OT off the board now after Smith, Smith, Monroe, and Oher. Those guys had great colegiate careers where as Beatty had one good year, and no one would even know who he was if Donald Brown didn't blow up this year.

4. Learn how to spell.
yerckson3420
How about Vernon Gholston putting up eye popping "workout numbers" in the combine getting drafted 6th and not even compiling as many tackles as he has fingers??


Don't let numbers at the combine full you!!!
daddy woz
QUOTE (yerckson3420 @ Feb 23 2009, 9:26:13 AM) *
How about Vernon Gholston putting up eye popping "workout numbers" in the combine getting drafted 6th and not even compiling as many tackles as he has fingers??


Don't let numbers at the combine full you!!!



this. there are so many combine giants that end up going on to not do well at all in the NFL. so, let's just calm down, and see how it all plays out.
RichEisenIsGod
QUOTE (daddy woz @ Feb 23 2009, 11:05:37 AM) *
this. there are so many combine giants that end up going on to not do well at all in the NFL. so, let's just calm down, and see how it all plays out.



Agreed, this kid is either William Beatty himself or a HUGE UCONN fan. Let's not forget that Beatty kind of came out of no where this season, he's lucky he's in first round discussions!
bcdrama
I have 4 of Beatty's game tapes, including UC, he is talented, but a project, he looked great against Buffalo in the Bowl game but if unless he can face those guys every week he'll struggle at 1st he'll go from 29-32 in round one most likely. wink.gif

QUOTE (RichEisenIsGod @ Feb 23 2009, 4:31:51 PM) *
Agreed, this kid is either William Beatty himself or a HUGE UCONN fan. Let's not forget that Beatty kind of came out of no where this season, he's lucky he's in first round discussions!

Vikeswookie
Connor Barwin=Mike Mamula?
PatriotofMaine
QUOTE (Vikeswookie @ Feb 25 2009, 9:57:11 AM) *
Connor Barwin=Mike Mamula?



Connor Barwin=Mike Vrabel
cjs206
QUOTE (Vikeswookie @ Feb 25 2009, 2:57:11 PM) *
Connor Barwin=Mike Mamula?

QUOTE (PatriotofMaine @ Feb 25 2009, 3:05:56 PM) *
Connor Barwin=Mike Vrabel


Connor Barwin = Connor Barwin

oh, and E = mc2
nyyjones
Are the Jets tipping their draft hand? Today, their OC Brian Schottenheimer worked out Kansas State QB Josh Freeman...tomorrow, new HC Rex Ryan is working him out according to Gil Brandt.
yerckson3420
QUOTE (nyyjones @ Mar 16 2009, 8:25:38 PM) *
Are the Jets tipping their draft hand? Today, their OC Brian Schottenheimer worked out Kansas State QB Josh Freeman...tomorrow, new HC Rex Ryan is working him out according to Gil Brandt.



If they aren't trying to throw people of then the question would be will they take him at 17? Seems early to me but you never know.
nyyjones
QUOTE (yerckson3420 @ Mar 16 2009, 11:48:08 PM) *
If they aren't trying to throw people of then the question would be will they take him at 17? Seems early to me but you never know.

Actually, he is flying up many teams boards right now...and if the Lions don't take Stafford, he could well be their target with Dallas' pick.
RichEisenIsGod
QUOTE (yerckson3420 @ Mar 16 2009, 10:48:08 PM) *
If they aren't trying to throw people of then the question would be will they take him at 17? Seems early to me but you never know.



Seems early to me as well, "flying up boards" or not. Don't get me wrong I think the kid is great and has a huge upside, but he seems like he'll need a lot of time to develop. If I were the Jets I'd trade up for Sanchez, who also needs time to develop but may be able to handle starting as a rookie.
nyyjones
QUOTE (RichEisenIsGod @ Mar 17 2009, 8:03:13 PM) *
Seems early to me as well, "flying up boards" or not. Don't get me wrong I think the kid is great and has a huge upside, but he seems like he'll need a lot of time to develop. If I were the Jets I'd trade up for Sanchez, who also needs time to develop but may be able to handle starting as a rookie.

I think the reason the Jets are very interested in him is his stature. I think he reminds Ryan of the kid Flacco in Baltimore, and he's thinking maybe lightening can strike twice on a big, strong armed QB. I'm not saying this is going to happen, but there has been a lot of speculation lately of the Jets going in this direction. Whether or not it''s a smokescreen, I can't say, but I could see him going at 17, if say the Stafford goes before the 49ers pick, and they jump on Sanchez, which is not out of the question either.
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