OK then boys, voting is now open on the #1 pick. Feel free to comment on why you chose a certain player to a certain team.

1. Detroit Lions - Matt Stafford
2. St Louis Rams - Jason Smith
3. Kansas City Chiefs - Aaron Curry
4. Seattle Seahawks - Eugene Monroe
5. Cleveland Browns - Brian Orakpo
6. Cincinnati Bengals - Andre Smith
7. Oakland Raiders - ?

Sweet, thanks!

jason smith. what good is a QB unless you can offer him at least some protection? besides, the lions will be in position to have another high pick next year, where both bradford and mccoy (and tebow......) will be available to them. you build your lines this year, get your QB next.

Matt Stafford. The Lions can get their left tackle with pick 20, similar to atlanta last year. They won't have to go after Bradford next year if Matt Stafford has protection and can establish a connection with Calvin Johnson. Maybe they'll actually win some games and the Lions will have something to beleive in. You can't take Jason Smith and then a quarterback with pick 20, there won't be an left. If you follow daddy woz's logic, you would simply be announcing that your content with loosing for another season. The Lions have nothing to loose, why not take a risk?

the lions have so many holes to fill anyway that they'll have a losing season regardless, in my opinion. they won't finish any higher than last in the NFC North. why not take the picks, build your team, and THEN get the QB, rather than get the QB first, and hope he stays on his feet?

and, the lions have a LOT to lose if they screw this pick up. you would pay big money to a player who busts? i'm not saying stafford would bust, or that he's even a terrible pick here. i'm just a believer that you build a team from the lines out. sure, they could get a tackle at 20. again, though, there are a bunch of holes to fill, so why not go OT, then maybe defense with the other 2 early picks (20 and 33)?

if you follow your own logic, then you could potentially set up stafford to have a david carr-esque year in detroit, where he'll spend more time looking at the roof of the dome than at coverages.

plus, nobody said that anybody was "content" with a losing season. but, think longer term. you're not going to compete for anything this year, if you're the lions. so, while you obviously aren't striving for a poor season, you have to be a realist, and get on a 3 - 5 year plan, and go based on that. gotta take steps. do you think that the chiefs are happy about having a few bad seasons? of course not. however, they're able to look at the bigger picture, and that they don't have the pieces they needed. now, they have some things. not saying that they'll be great, but they *should* be better this season than last, and that's because the brass in KC knew they'd have to rebuild. that stuff doesn't happen overnight.

last, you have to remember that this team went 0-16 last year. if they win 3-4 games, there would be hope that the team is heading in the right direction. plus, don't they still have culpepper under contract this year? he's obviously not the answer, but he buys you some time, which is what this team needs to get back to being able to compete.

Stafford. Thats what they need and thats what they want.

0-16? So what, it's the NFL, it's not baseball. Teams go from worst to first all the time. Should be all the more managable in a very weak NFC North.

And yes, you did claim they'd be content with loosing when you stated that they can go after Bradford next year. Bradford, being a likely number one pick, would mean that they would be picking first again by picking Jason Smith.

The fact of the matter is that Matt Stafford is the only player at one that gives them a chance to win, and they will take it.

Sue he comes with a bust factor, but so does Jason Smith. I think you just answered the question for us when you claimed that they'll be picking first again next year if they take Jason Smith....thanks for proving my point.

Didn't they say that about the Falcons this time last year?

Remember, the lions have another 1st round pick. They can still get a pretty good OT or OG but Stafford and Sanchez could be gone by 20.

Plus the Falcons took a QB last year and with a little bit of magic turned into a playoff team

My point entirely.

Agreed.

is five votes a winner?

Probally we should do 1 a day, 2 on weekends till we have a full 32 by draft day

I would personally take Smith or Monroe. Then you have your book end young OTs and stud WR. But I wouldn't be shocked if Det took Stafford.

Its tuff to compare year to year drafts.

First of all Atlanta was a much better team than detroit is going into last years draft. Secondly they sign an incredible RB in turner who made a huge difference. (lions have done no such thing)

I think its completely fair to asume detroit will be really bad next year. Someone noted that every year teams go from worst to first. That is a true point. BUT, do any of you really get a feeling that will happen with this lion team? Be honest now, don't use it to support your point. Just be honest and say if you logically think the lions can win the NFC north this year.

Comparing Detroit to Atlanta as far as OT tackle goes is a little off too. When Atlanta drafted the first tackle was off the board and the next tackle didn't go til the 12th pick, would have been a bit of a reach for tackle then. Detroit can take the number one tackle if they so wished.


Not to mention the most important issue is, I personally think Ryan was a better prospect than Stafford on top of it. Kinda important.

So as I always say, none of us know crap about whats going to happen on draft day. We have vague ideas, experts we like, trends we cling to and our own take on the draft. If I would have told you guys in this thread last year that Mayo would go 10, the jags would sell out for harvey at 9, Brandon Albert (the flavor of the month) would have fallen to 15, Cherilus, Sam Baker and Chris Johnson would go as high as they did. I would have caught a crap load of flack.

The lions will likely take Stafford.
I personally wouldn't. (and yes, if I were GM of the worst team ever I would totally look at next at next years class when I drafted this year too)

yerckson said what i wanted to say, just in a much better, milder manner.

Not enough time. The selection should just be made once a player hits a certain number of votes or by midnight if that number isn't hit.

We can create a schedule, like 1 every 10 hours or something. Or till they reach or 5. An odd number, win by two


On Stafford, the lions havent shown as much interest in any other prospect. Monroe and Smith even Curry would be safer but unless this is a giant smokescreen. Lions WILL take Stafford and nobody should be surprised

again, i wouldn't be surprised. i just don't think it's the smartest pick.

OK, the Lions get Stafford.

Voting is now open for the Rams!

I would've guessed Michael Crabtree for Detroit.
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St. Louis Rams select Jason Smith

Hah. Matt Millen would have thought about it...

J. Smith. NO question the right pick for the rams .

Yeah, time to declare Smith the winner here and move on.

Jason smith is a home run I would think if stafford goes to detroit

yeah but CJ wont be on till morn yonder. For KC, i would think Curry.

draft jason smith #2 and address the interior of the line later in the draft. jacob bell is capable. alex barron has been a disapointment but has upside. they need to establish a running game with steven jackson and even get antonio pittman some more carries

A probably pick yes, but I wouldn't call it a slam dunk. Apparently they're set on Alex Barron moving to LT, which means Crabtree or Curry is an option at 2, and maybe get a RT later, or trade back up into late round one for Eben Britton...

Again I think they'll settle on Smith but I would not be shocked to see Crabtree or Curry there.

Is there a daytime mod who can help run this thing so we can try and get a vote in every 12 hours?

When this is done you guys should post it with the official mock, like make a whole page for it showing the results. After it would truly be a "consensus mock."

Just an idea that I think would be pretty cool.

I havent been really paying attention, but if Craig gives me a heads up, I'm on at least everyother other during the afternoon...

CJ how do we change this and I'll help out when I can?

I think Smith is the pick, BUT as mentioned, Curry and Crabtree are legitimate options... And that is why as of now I am the only to vote Curry... Curry is regarded by many as the safest pick. He is almost as sure a thing as there could be in the draft, and while when thinking of the Rams needs, Oline is probably the 1st to jump out, but off the top of your head how many of the Rams LB's can you name? Or defensive members for that matter? I could think of Witherspoon and the Hawaiian guy, Tinoasomo? Regardless, they certainly don't have household names there. Curry is a stud, and with other young building blocks there like Long, Atogwe, Tye Hill. Curry would fill a need, and I can't think of many worthy linebackers that will be around when the pick in the 2nd, excepth maybe Lauranitis. They can look to grap one of the top lineman that will surely end up slipping just out of the 1st round with there second pick.

And lets not for get who their head coach is, a defensive mind. If the Lions pass on Curry, the Rams had better consider long and hard before passing on him.

RR, Brett...you guys can change this thing whenever you want. Just "full edit" my original post and delete the current poll and save the post. Then go back in to edit and set up the new one. If you don't do it that way, people won't be able to vote again.

RichEisen - I'll see what we can do on that front, nice idea!

And you can all now vote on #3

KC selects Curry (....or someone else...lol)

Thanks CJ.

Completely agree with you here, every mock I've seen in the past few weeks have Smith going to STL. When you think about it, Curry really does make the most sense. Phil Loadholt and Jamon Meredith will certainly be available when they pick in round 2 and are capable of playing RT.

The only thing that makes me think Smith is the consensus and "experts" claiming it's all but a lock, and the fact that I don't think Barron can play LT. Also Mike Smith was "Mr. Defense" last year as well and wound up taking Matt Ryan over Dorsey.

CJ,

I'm not sure even another admin can edit an admin's post, let alone a mod. But, we shall see...

Hey guys! I moved the draft on because it was overwhelming for Curry. In the meantime I somehow delelted the vote buttons. Sorry guys. Vote in posts down here for now and maybe CJ can unbutcher what I did.

You know guys, this really should be the way we devise our final mock draft--the one we submit to THR. Talk about a TRUE consensus!

Like the floor of the Roman Senate, who brought the daggers?

Fixed...y'all can vote again!

who voted raji? jw.

Yeppers, i think Raji could do great things in Seattle

Dammit, clicked the wrong button and my vote didn't count.

Cj,

Can we get a Michael Crabtree option for Cleveland? I want to vote for him.

Bit of truth, bit of sarcasm, but only said in fun. NOT A GRIPE!

After reading post #45, I just realized I've been doing it all wrong. My bad...lol.

I was just writing my picks. I didn't try the optional voting thing at the top of the page. Simply because after the top few picks or so, then my choices probably won't be available at the top, like many other voters. (That's like a presidential election, whereas there's 350 million people in this country, but we only get to choose from the two that they've chosen for us to choose from...lol. Oh well.)

But I'll try and just go with the ones given at the top, I guess, whether I like those choices or not.

ANGEL McCOUGHTRY RULES!!! (#1 overall selection in the WNBA Draft.) Just thought I'd throw that in there.

Well the first 4 picks were so one sided anyway that one vote wouldn't have swayed them. But I agree that some more options should be thrown in there...especially as we approach the end of the first round.

That's my point, the further we go into the round then the more names (or options) there should be.

I voted Orakpo on Cleveland's pick, but if Crabtree had been an option, then I would've voted Crabtree on that pick.

I was just sharing my thoughts, that's all.

Well I agree with you.

Looks like some idiot forgot to put Crabtree as an option...oh wait...that would have been me!