I am going to go position by position on the top 10 prospects for the 2010 NFL Draft. First, the QB's....

2010 NFL Draft QB Prospects

1.) Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
2.) Colt Mccoy, Texas
3.) Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan
4.) Tim Tebow, Florida
5.) Jevan Snead, Ole Miss
6.) Zac Robinson, Oklahoma State
7.) Juice Williams, Illinois
8.) Max Hall, BYU
9.) Tim Hiller, Western Michigan
10.) Jake Locker, Washington

In my opinion Snead should be #2, Hiller should be higher and Tebow shouldn't even be on the list.

Here would be my top ten

1. Sam Bradford Oklahoma
2. Jevon Snead Mississippi
3. Colt McCoy Texas
4. Tim Hiller Western Michigan
5. Dan LeFevour Central Michigan
6. Pat Devlin Deleware State
7. Max Hall BYU
8. Rusty Smith Florida Atlantic
9. Zach Robinson Oklahoma State
10. Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame

Here's Mine:
1. Jevon Snead Mississippi
2. Colt McCoy Texas
3. Sam Bradford Oklahoma
4. Colin Kaepernick, Nevada
5. Dan LeFevour Central Michigan
6. Tim Hiller Western Michigan
7. Tony Pike, QB, Cincinnati
8. Ryan Perrilloux, QB, Jacksonville State
9. Zach Robinson Oklahoma State
10. Max Hall BYU
11. Rusty Smith Florida Atlantic
12. Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame
13. Pat Devlin Deleware State
14. Case Keenum, Houston
15. Jarrett Brown WVU
16. Tim Tebow U. Florida
17. Daryll Clark, QB, Penn State
18. Isiah Williams, Illinois
19. Jake Locker, Washington
20. Mitch Mustain, Southern Cal [even if he never starts a game there are 2 teams that have him slotted as a 5th rounder.]

My list:

1 - Colt McCoy
2 - Jevan Snead
3 - Sam Bradford
4 - Tim Tebow
5 - Zac Robinson
6 - Jake Locker
7 - Dan LeFevour
8 - Jimmy Clausen
9 - Joe Webb
10 - Jarrett Brown
11 - Colin Kaepernick
12 - Tony Pike
13 - Daryll Clark
14 - Todd Reesing
15 - Chris Turner
16 - Ryan Perrilloux
17 - Tim Hiller
18 - Zach Frazer
19 - John Skelton
20 - Rusty Smith

Dang you dislike Tebow, BC.

I like him just fine, I'd take him anywhere from the late 3rd on, I just like the others more, but I bet you Tebow will not be a bust, he just won't be a bigger version of Steve Young as some projected out of HS.

Here's my cut:

1. Sam Bradford, OK
2. Jevan Snead Mississippi
3. Colt McCoy Texas
4. Zach Robinson, Ok St
5. Tim Tebow, Florida
6. Dan LeFevour, CMU
7. Jake Locker, Washington
8. Tony Pike, Cincinnati
9. Tim Hiller, WMU
10. Rusty Smith, Florida Atl
11. Colin Kaepernick, Nevada
12. Daryll Clark, PSU
13. Billy Cundiff, Ashland
14. Max Hall, BYU
15. “Juice” Williams, Illinois
16. Pat Devlin, Delaware St
17. Ryan Perriloux, J’ville State
18. Jimmy Clausen, ND
19. Jarrett Brown, WVU
20. Todd Reesing, Kansas

Very solid! I'd like to see some film on Cundiff!

I actually think of him as a slightly more athletic Roethlisberger but not quite as NFL ready. I just don't understand Robinson being that high up and Tebow that far down especially under Perriloux and Jarrett Brown. I mean Zach Robinson is smaller than Tebow, skinnier, plays in a spread and hasn't been as good of a passer...what's his pull? Is it his speed? He just doesn't seem like any better of a QB than Tebow and he doesn't have Tebow's intangibles.(at least it doesn't seem that way)

Though Robinson's Mechanics aren't as pretty as Jim Hart's, Dan Fout's, Peyton's or Matt Ryan's, but he does not have the hitch that Tebow does, Tebow has a chance to be a bigger, stronger version or Rich Gannon, but It'll take a while. Robinson is like a bigger version of Stafon LeFors though he has a stronger arm, actually Eric Ward of UR is a more NFL ready than either IMHO. Perriloux is like a taller, more mobile Jeff Blake and has a chance to very, very good, he has a plus arm, 4.6 speed and has matured a great deal in the last 2 years. Look only a handful of these guys have played in an NFL-type offense, Ward and Smith are among the few that take a good number of snaps under center.

Take Perriloux off my list - he just got suspended for the first game against Georgia Tech for "violating team rules." The report I saw said "it wasn't criminal."

Coach Crowe says the infraction was during the spring and he will start against Florida State in week two.

After his dismissal from LSU he really needed to clean up his act - this does not show him headed in the "right direction."

Here's a YouTube link to watch the first half of AU vs Saginaw Valley in 2008 (there are several other games on YouTube of AU from 2008 - SVSU, Wayne State, and Findlay are there).

At the end of the half, Cundiff directs a 25-second or so drive covering 60+ yards to score that is pretty well done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B3ybEbHxf0

E-E my understanding is that it was a relatively minor infraction in the form of a heat of the moment mouthing off, I called coach Crowe and though he won't discuss details he made it clear that he still think Ryan is a very good leader and praised his attitude and work ethic.

That kid needs a mentor or something he is literally throwing his future away. it's like he doesn't know when to stop. he has gone from texas to lsu now your at jacksonville st and you can't just shut up and play ball and he is so talented easily one of the most talented prospects in the past few years. just a shame

You say that that Robinson hasn't been as good of a passer than Tebow, so lets look at the stats.

Last year
Robinson 314 attempts for 3064 yards and 25 touchdowns
Tebow 298 attempts for 2764 yards and 30 touchdowns

I know its only one year, but Tebow has more touchdowns, but Robinson has more yards. I'd say its about even. So you can't say defenetively that Tebow is a better passer.

And by the way, Tebow plays in the Spread also.

I like Tebow WAY more than many "experts" who project him to the 4th-5th as a fullback, H-Back/SS or ILB, however his mechanics need a pretty extensive reworking, I was taken to task for still liking Woodson despite the hitch in his motion and Tebow has farther to go than Woodson mechanically speaking. Woodson is a 3rd stringer, Tebow could do that while contributing in 'Wild Christian' package situations. Robinson is still an unfinished product, but his mechanics are cleaner.

I drafted him high in the IMD. I think he will show he can throw just fine to "get 'er done" this season.

I guess the 'git 'r done thing' is why I keep thinking Tebow will go fairly high in the draft - when you compare him to others who might be 'more technicaly' advanced you are still left asking, does QB X bring the leadership, the 'want to,' and just the experience of living so well in the spotlight, as Tebow? - he has shown he can manage his life, his mouth and his team while still competing at the highest level (immediate contrast with Perriloux!) ... will be interesting to see how this year pans out for him and UF.

You nailed it E-E. I think that QBs who have certain intangibles (character, work ethic, moxie, leadership skills, clutchness, etc.) will often succeed where more talented/polished/athletic/stronger/etc. QBs will fail.

Because of this, I think that Tebow, even if he is unable to correct his hitch, will still be a successful NFL QB. He's got every single intangible I want in a QB. He's going to be the first one in the building and the last to leave. He'll never be an issue off the field. He'll do everything possible to win the game on the field. If I was picking a QB #1 overall next spring, I'd have to think long and hard about him. I don't know that he'd be my pick, but he'd garner some very strong consideration.

Didn't they say the same thing about Vince Young? His athletic ability/clutchness, talent, work ethic?

Umm... No.

I think most of what was said about Young focused on his talent, athleticism, and BCS win over Leinart and USC. There was no doubting any of the physical attributes (except for pass accuracy), nor his competitive nature, but I think the rest of it was up for debate.

I know I was on record stating that Jay Cutler was the best of the bunch that year. One of the things I liked best about Cutler was his moxie and his leadership. He played on some very bad Vandy teams and kept taking his beatings and kept working harder and harder each week to improve.

I think the problem with Tebow is he is so good as a person and a coachable player it actually overshadows his skill. which is the exact opposite if most football players. take away the discipline the work ethic the mentality. he is athletic but not nfl athletic. he doesn't have a francise arm. and e plays in a option style offense. and he plays on a team that could win a NC with a mediocre QB. he will have to learn to win with his arm and he'll be a project meaning he won't come in and contribute immediately to a nfl team so i can't risk a first round pick on him

Colt Brennan was a great college, QB, smart, quick and coachable, he is struggling to hold onto the 3rd spot in DC, Tebow is much bigger and a better athlete, David Carr was nearly perfect coming into the Draft, mentally ready, a great kid, 4.7 flat 40, strong arm, accurate and had played in a pro-style offense but was nearly killed by playing on an expansion team, Tim Tebow is very like Bobby Douglass and has underrated and underdeveloped passing skills but he lacks the things you look for in a 1st round QB, I could see a contender taking him late in the 2nd.

Leadership? Cutler? Take a look at his finger pointing during last year's season finale vs. the Chargers...I don't think that demonstrates "Leadership." He's a "ME" player, and spoiled to boot. Will be an improvement in Chitown, but I think at some point he self destructs again. I just don't see him as a big time player. When he's not under pressure, he performs well. When he HAS to, he fails.

As far as Tebow is concerned, there are a lot more problems with his potential to transfer his college skills to the NFL than the "hitch" in his throw or playing in a spread offense You can add to that his average at best throwing arm...throws with a pretty much sidearm motion (although many a very good to great NFL QB has done this also, but it is not the ideal motion)...can't read defenses very well...and has a "kick" that he finishes every pass with. Still, he does have potential, but Snead, if he comes out is the class of all these QBs as it pertains to transferring their skills to the NFL...a healthy Bradford included...and it's not even close, IMO.

As I have stated before Snead is the QB I think has the best pro potential in this class, McCoy narrowly edges Bradford for #2, LeFevour, Rusty Smith, Tim Hiller, Zac Robinson, Colin Kaepernick, and Tony Pike all could be solid starters down the line, IMHO.

After one week of the season, here is my revised list.

1. Jevon Snead Mississippi
2. Sam Bradford Oklahoma
3. Colt McCoy Texas
4. Tim Hiller Western Michigan
5. Max Hall BYU
6. Dan LeFevour Central Michigan
7. Zach Robinson Oklahoma State
8. Jimmy Clausen Notre Dame
9. Tony Pike Cincinatti
10. Pat Devlin Delaware

I slide Bradford down one spot because of his injury to his throwing shoulder. It will be interesting to see how it heals up and if it affects me. Tony Pike had a moster game and is going to be getting some much deserved attention now. And Rusty Smith falls out. After watching him play against Nebraska he did not impress me at all. Has a good arm, but made pooer decision after poor decision and the back up looked much better than him.

I know one game doesn't make a career, but Hiller was not that impressive against Michigan this weekend (I didn't get to see it, but listened to it on the radio). He was only 22-38 with 2 INTs and just 1 TD for 259 yards (and the TD and many completions came at the end of the game when the Wolverines were subbing alot of players). I think he is a solid prospect, just surprised he didn't have a better game.

I didn't see the game either, but I did hear a couple of people say that he played pretty well. I can't remember who I read it from or heard it from. I've been pretty impressed with Hiller in the games that I've watched and think he is going to be a very solid prospect.

Sam talked to Eli Manning Sunday. Eli had the same injury during his Super Bowl winning season. Eli said he was back throwing within a few days and was back playing quickly. Eli also told Sam it would have no effect on him long term.

Bradford started rehabbing Sunday, getting his throwing motion back.

I did hear that about Eli calling him. Hopefully Sam is able to bounce back from this injury. I really like watching him and that offense last year.

We are in agreement here, bc...I too like Snead, then McCoy, then Bradford...(although I like McCoy over Bradford by more than just narrowly). I see McCoy as one of those players with unmeasurable intangibles, including his leadership ability and toughness, which I think allows him to be one of those players who makes those around him believe in him that I just don't see or feel when watching Bradford.

John Skelton is my Top Senior QB and really needs to get some looks. The kid is a serious talent.

You'll certainly get no argument on that score here. We're high on him.

But, you guys don't even have him as a Top 10 Senior QB

Perhaps not, but I'll wager we have him higher than most.

But, pretty much every other site has him Top 10. Draft Countdown, Gil Brandt (nfl.com), CBS, etc. You acutally seem to be much lower on him then most. Others have him rated as draftable whereas you don't.

You've named three of hundreds. I said "most."

If you check back you will see we were one of the very first sites to begin talking about him as a pro prospect--during his sophomore season in '07 to be precise. These johnnie-come-lately, band-wagon writers you have cited have him slightly over-rated. Still, he is certainly draftable.

Did some searching at a few sites from my bookmarks and this is what I found on Skelton...

Draft Ace - lists him #14 and says he plays for Furman
DraftBoardInsider - doesn't list him at all (only lists top 10 and then 5 "players to watch")
Draft Daddy - lists him at #9
Football's Future - only list top 10, and he's not there
GreatBlueNorth - lists him at #19
NFL Draft Bible - still has 2009 rankings up, so he's not there
NFL Draft Blitz - lists only THREE players and then asks you to PAY to see more???
NFL Draft Countdown - has him #8
CBS Sports/NFL Draft Scout - have him #6
TFY Draft - don't have rankings up
ESPN - Has him 24th on their list, with a grade of 30/100 (other grades - Bradford 95, Locker 94, McCoy 92, etc.)
Scout.com - doesn't list him among their top 24 seniors


We have him just outside the top 10 seniors, which I think is about right. He currently has 6 INTs on the season, and 9 of his 15 TDs have come against two Ivy teams in the bottom half of the league (Columbia and Cornell). So I think we'll need to continue to monitor him throughout the season and see him perform in all-star games and post-season workouts/combine before we really start to get a handle on him. That said, we have been talking about him since his sophomore year (before almost all of the other sites) and are still very high on him.

I know right now its a little off topic for the thread at the moment, but....here is my top 10 at the mid point of the season

1. Jake Locker
2. Tony Pike
3. Jimmy Clausen
4. Sam Bradford
5. Case Keenum
6. Dan LeFevour
7. Colt McCoy
8. Jevon Snead
9. Tim Hiller
10. Zach Robinson

What about Ryan Mallet?

oh yeah....

1. Jake Locker
2. Tony Pike
3. Jimmy Clausen
4. Sam Bradford
5. Ryan Mallett
6. Case Keenum
7. Dan LeFevour
8. Colt McCoy
9. Jevon Snead
10. Zach Robinson

Not impressed by this class i'd take clausen number one out of this group. i like locker but i believe he has injury concerns same with bradford. I like Mallet but i think he needs at least another year but he has a cannon arm. probably number 1 when he comes out. i think christian ponder should be on there too. if FSU was a contender this year he would be on the short list for the heisman

Yeah I'm going to agree with you on this class. I'm never been too impressed with Bradford. Seems to benefit from a good system and last year having a great oline and weapons. His injuries to his shoulder are not a good sign either. I'm not a big fan of Clausen either, but I do think he could be the first one gone. I really like Locker, but believe he could use another year at Washington.

towards the end of last season i actually got caught up in the tebow excitement but after watching a few games this year i have been unimpressed the throws have been off the big play is not there as much and it brings me back to my conclusion i had two year ago and that is that without percy harvin , tebow as well as florida's whole offense has been exposed. it looks like USC after reggie bush left, strong defense with a adequate but lacking offense.