2009 Full Round 1 Mock NFL DraftOriginally Submitted:
03/31/2009 - 10:35AM CDT
Last Updated: 11/01/2009 - 4:54PM CST Posted By: timb2 Round 1
Lions need a franchise QB.Stafford over Sanchez because Stafford has more expierence,but I believe Sanchez has more talent ,but Stafford is more ready to start. Rams were 26th in passing offense,Bulger was benched at one point last season,Bulger is going to be 33 when the season starts.They draft the franchise QB and foul up all those teams wanting to trade up for Sanchez.Last point, if Seahawks or Niners want Sanchez and Rams are in the same division.They will sabotage those teams from getting that QB. Monroe teamed with Albert will make great bookends. Julian Peterson trade leaves an opening.Walter Jones faded some,but still was very good and no reason to draft a RT this high. Browns will have no weapons on offense after Braylon Edwards is traded to the Giants.Mangini is in complete overhaul mode of this team.He needs to calm the fans nerves and one way is to take the homestate kid.Also Crabtree is not ready and not sure surgery will not effect him.Is he more prone to another injury of this foot?Browns were last in rushing. Bengals have no pass rush.The Bengals DEs were pitiful.Orakpo is a upgrade over Geathers or Odom. Al Davis has always drafted combine studs.The Raiders need pass rushers and Johnson is similar to the tall lanky types from years past that Davis favors.Sean Jones,Ted Hendricks,Scott Davis,etc. Jaguars have no threats at WR.Matt Jones was cut.Reggie Williams has never lived up to his billing.They gamble Crabtree will be healthy. Both Clifton & Tausher are over 30.The Packers are elated to see Jason Smith slide.More likely a team trades up before this pick here,but since I don't have trades.He is slotted here.Also don't be surprise Packers trade up for him with the Seahawks or Browns. Niners would have the best young LBs in the league if they draft Cushing to pair with Willis & Lawson.Niners have not had consistent performers on defense besides Willis and Singletary will change that by bringing in tough active players. Bills need a pass rush.Playing in the Great Blue North is tough and they need a kid who can play in the cold.Maybin is the choice over Everette Brown. Broncos want to switch to 3-4 defense.Raji is the anchor for the switch.Josh McDaniels is in full fear of his job after the Cutler fiasco and he needs to succeed quick before Bowlen pulls the plug on him.Broncos defense was horrible last year. Starts at SLB from Day 1 and if bloodlines are true, for the next 20 years.Does not get enough credit overshadowed by Cushing and Malauga,but his numbers do not lie.He might become the best of the bunch. Josh Bullocks is gone which Saints fans are relieved and Jenkins is going to play safety here. Jenkins is a good tackler,but his lack of speed hurt him.Luckily the Saints need a safety and he is the pick. Starts from Day 1 opposite Andre Johnson.Texans problem has been no offense.Andre Johnson can't do it all.Slaton helped last year,but more offense is needed. Jerome Clary gave up 6.5 sacks as the RT.Andre Smith might save his fate of being a bust by getting a chance to play RT. Jets have lots of holes , but Coles leaving is a big one.Jets GM drafted Kellen Clemons and I feel he would not want to admit he made a mistake so no Josh Freeman here.Robiske is the selection because he is the sure non-bust pick.His NFL WR coach Dad(Terry Robiske) has him ready for the Pros.Knows how to run routes,good hands,good size,decent speed,and good kid. Jets fans will scream on Draft Day,but he will shut them up during the season. Building that 3-4 defense.McDaniels lucks out and grabs Jackson.This allows Jarvis Moss & Tim Crowder to both play the OLBs spots.270 lbs OLBs Bucs need an edge rusher to go with Gaines Adams.Brown can only succeed with a guy like Adams on the other side.Also like Buffalo in the cold,Bucs need someone for the heat. Lion gave up over 40 sacks last season.Lions have to grab O-lineman in this draft and solid OL players.Oher easily could beat out Jeff Backus who is struggling at LT with age catching up to him. The way Eagles blitz their defense ,Maualuga is their man.Eagles also need a charismatic leader after Dawkins left.Stewart Bradley is good,but Maualuga would be great and a star in Philly.Bradley would slide to OLB to compete with Gocong. Rosenfels & Jackson are not the answer.Vikes coach needs to save his job and maybe not want to draft a QB,but the sure thing is to get their franchise's future. LBs are a big key to their success.Teddy Brushci is 36 years old.Patriots are fazing out their old dinosaur players. Falcons were 25th vs the rush and have no names at DT..Falcons got lucky last year and under the radar and stole some wins.Teams are aware of them and Falcons needs to hide secondary problem with rushers. Phins CBs are average.Just like the Falcons got by with smoke and mirrors. With the best corner on the board.Butler is the pick. Ravens WRs do not scare anyone.Nicks could have been the drafted higher in the draft,but he gained over 14 lbs in 2 months and his pro day acted disinterested.Concerns are that he will not care once that signing bonus money is in his hands. Colts are very light at DT.Colts got blindsided by Johnson & Pittcock last year and they suffered on defense.Will not happen this year.They will make sure Freeney & Mathis are able to run roughshod at the ends Jason Peters trade makes LT a priority.Beatty is a solid OT and would probably have gone higher than having to compete with the other OTs in this draft in previous years. Browns are rebuilding their offense.Have to get players ready to play and speed can equalize inexpierence until they are seasoned. Titans WRs are slow.Williams ran faster than Percy Harvin and does not have the baggage Harvin does.Titans also could use a good PR and Williams fits the bill. Edgerrin James will be gone and not 100% Tim Hightower is their longterm answer. With so many teams switching to 3-4 defense need an upgrade over journeyman Justin Hartwig.Hartwig almost cost the Steelers with his holding penalty for a safety the Superbowl. Just doing a review from last year. |
Submit Comment: You must Log In to post comments.Viewer Comments: Posted by showtime390 on 4/9/09 - 1:28PM The giants draft is ok, a couple picks should be changed though. The DT postion is fine and has very good depth. The back-up QB situation is fine with Carr and Woodson, and the giants have a perfect fullback for how they play, another one isn't needed. A position of need that isn't in this draft is offensive tackle. They could also add a DE and a RB in the later rounds. Posted by timb2 on 4/9/09 - 1:43PM Appreciate the info showtime.Still moving guys around. Posted by Cheeba on 4/9/09 - 2:06PM Bears will NOT be taking a WR with there 2 first day picks they got other needs and and will get 1 but not 2.. got kevin jones as fortes back up so RB is not a pressing need..OL(protect cutler!),CB,DE,OLB,S woulda been a better pick..nice draft though Posted by eagleman992 on 4/9/09 - 2:15PM I dont think he will switch to guard because he is a good tackle the Eagles wont pass him up regardless they could move Herremans to LT and put him at guard if anything Posted by cat9 on 4/9/09 - 3:04PM How you managed to mock an entire draft and not find one starter for an 0-16 Lions team I'll never know. Posted by Norvnice on 4/9/09 - 4:39PM Barwin is not going in the first round!! He doesn't have a position and is outrageously raw dog! Chill! 2nd round, someone will bite!! Posted by broncolaw on 4/9/09 - 10:18PM That second round pick for the Broncos makes no sense. In case you didn't hear, Denver had one of the best, if not the best, o-line in the NFL. Posted by broncolaw on 4/9/09 - 10:20PM No way Andre Smith falls that far. I'll be shocked if he drops out of the top 10. Posted by eagleman992 on 4/9/09 - 10:55PM Broncoclaw yes Broncos have a good line no way it is top yes they have a great tackle in Clady and he the guy from ND they took in the 3rd round last year i believe and the rest of the line is like 30 and aboce no young guys.I may be exagerating but they arent a youthful line.They will defiantly addrees the need in their 3rd or 4th pick i think because they need it Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 7:15AM I know for a fact that Ozzie Smith would not pass on Andre Smith. If he falls past 10 (which is HIGHLY unlikely), we'll probably trade up for him. Also that Ravens first round has no chance of happening after signing Samari Rolle. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 7:16AM The Texans arent starting Anthony Weaver, they signed Antonio Smith in FA. They will certainly not be going DE now with pressing needs at S, OLB, RB. Posted by jwitosky on 4/10/09 - 9:56AM I don't know what character concerns Jenkins has but there is absolutely no way he falls out of round 1. Hands down he's just a better overall athlete than Butler. You must not know too much about football, because you barely ever run 40 yard sprints all game long, so you take butler I would stick with Jenkins. Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 10:11AM Jenkins was slow .Vontae Davis has the character concerns.Jenkins barely broke 4.6 and he will tested long all the time.Yeah Ohio State has had some very good CBs come out,but this one is going to be a safety by year 3 because he will be toasted. Darius Butler will be the best corner in this draft 2 years from now.I promise you. Youtube both Butler & Jenkins and all you will see on Jenkins is a good tackler.Butler you will see coverage & tackling.Butler will be man to man and Jenkins will have to be zone. Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 11:02AM Cat,it's the Lions would you expect anything different?LOL! Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 11:05AM My last say on Andre Smith,when he gets his signing bonus ,do you think he is going to get in shape or go to the buffet line? Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 11:07AM Aaron Curry didn't get to the QB alot.The Chiefs have a similar guy in Derrick Johnson to Curry.They need a sack artist. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 11:21AM Your Texans pick's are god awful still. They have HUGE needs at S and OLB, and you have them taking a backup safety and backup tight end with their first 2 picks? That's simply not going to happen. Andre Smith can get in as many buffet lines as he wants, he is getting drafted in the top 10 no question. Derrick Johnson is NOT Aaron Curry, Curry was not asked to rsuh the passer at Wake...therefor did not generate many sacks. Orakpo was a sack artist but who knows how he will do in a 3-4 in the NFL, he's one sided, Curry can play his position OR inside...the pick makes no sense. Chris Wells at 5 is way too high, he'll be a great running back...but running backs arent valued as much as other positions and the Browns have much bigger needs. This draft gets worse and worse every time I look at it, and you are too stubborn to take any suggestions. I am all for differing opinions but some of these picks are just ridiculous...like you just slotted random names...do some serious research and try again... Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 11:24AM Oh and your Ravens draft is among the worst I have ever seen. Thank god Ozzie Newsome is drafting instead of you...are you seriously suggesting we would take Vontae Davis with Fabian Washington, Samari Rolle, Domonique Foxworth and Chris Carr...haha no way! Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 12:02PM I have the Texans taking Zach Follett OLB California in the 2nd. Texans have so many holes. Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 12:03PM Shawn Nelson would start and Daniels would be the 2nd TE by seasons end. Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 12:04PM OK you convinced me on the Ravens.I still thought Foxworth was in ATA and Rolle being resigned. Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 1:05PM OK Rich who is the Browns offense?Braylon Edwards who says Browns hold a grudge on him because he played at Michigan?He is history traded.Donte Stallworth?Maybe in 15 years.Kellen Winslow is in Tampa and Jamaal Lewis is slow and couldn't break a run if he was taking ex-lax. The Browns have no one on offense.No weapons. Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 1:08PM Texans have Antonio Smith and his 3.5 sacks.Shaun Cody who couldn't even be a bagboy because he couldn't get a sack. Texans have needs everywhere and Eugene Wilson,Demps,Ferguson are not great,but what the Texans have so many holes,they will do. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 1:39PM Shawn Nelson would not start over Owen Daniels and it's a ridiculous argument to hold anyway because the Texans wouldnt use a second round pick on a tight end when they already have one of the most productive in the league. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 1:41PM No one is expecting Antonio Smith to get double digit sacks but he can definitely provide enough of a pass rush to make Mario Williams even better. Shaun Cody doesnt have to get sacks, he's a defensive tackle. As long as he can take up some blocks Mario can do the rest, Everette Brown will not be drafted by the Texans...it's absurd. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 1:44PM The Browns do not have any play makers on offense, your right, but they're also looking pretty weak on defense and this has NOTHING TO DO WITH VALUE. Why waste pick 5 on a player that many mocks have going at the bottom of the first round? The value pick there would be Michael Crabtree or Eugene Monroe. Again Chris Wells is great, but he does not warrant a top 5 pick. The Browns can get a running back like Donald Brown with their first second round pick. Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 11:58PM You guys need to wake up about Crabtree.He is getting over a surgery.He may never be the same player.Who is going to know? He could be running 4.9s...Texans need someone besides just Mario Williams bringing pressure. You say it is absurd.How is it absurd? Another good bookend then another free agent scrub.Just change the name Anthony Weaver-Antonio Smith. Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 12:05AM OK I will give you a Texans safety and get rid of Shawne Nelson.Owen Daniels is not the prototype but he is productive. Posted by eagleman992 on 4/11/09 - 1:12AM i dont think 40 times mean that much at all.they are just a number Boldin ran his 40 in 4,72 Jerry Rice ran very slow look what happened greatest WR in the game dont base someone off their 40 time.And Texans wont take a DE in round 1 with all the CBs avaliable.Why would the Broncos still take a RB tell me why they would take one.Also why the Eagles are still passing Andre Smith no doubt they will take him if he is avaliable i dont care how much his syocked may have dropped he is going to be an Eagle if he was avaliable at that spot.Wells is not going at 5.Im just going to end up saying the same thing so just change things for the most part Posted by eagleman992 on 4/11/09 - 11:35AM So what he didnt start he still gives them decent numbers and all the backs they did have before they got injured did pretty good and now they want to take a 7th back no dont even go there Posted by t-dazzle on 4/11/09 - 12:36PM Wow, at least 10 players that have no business being in the first round! Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/11/09 - 1:05PM haha the Derrick Williams to Tennessee in round 1 pick is priceless. You give them a round 3-4 receiver at pick 30, claiming that their wide outs are slow...when Derrick Williams ran a 4.6 hahaha...I have officially lost what little respect I had for this mock, it useless to argue with you and these terrible picks. Posted by jpiz on 4/11/09 - 1:16PM Horrible Rams draft Safety is probably the rams strongest defensive position and you got 2 for no reason when we already have Craig Dahl and Todd Johnson for depth Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 1:53PM Ha HA the laugh is on you Rich.Derrick Williams had bronchitus at the combine on his Pro Day he ran a low 4.4. Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 1:56PM I disagree ipiz,Rams safeties need an upgrade. Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 1:58PM Derrick Williams had one time at 4.37 Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 2:12PM Come on back Rich. I proved you are wrong on Derrick Williams and you have to eat your words,but we all have too.I had to eat them on the Ravens CBs you are right,but I'm not trying to be your rival. Why can't you and me just agree to disagree on theories for the draft? Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/11/09 - 3:04PM Fine I didnt know that, but he still isnt round one worthy by any means. Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 3:44PM Oh yeah he is.He has better hands and runs routes better than Darrius Heyward-Bey.He also is returner. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/11/09 - 5:01PM I guess we'll see guy. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/12/09 - 9:00AM I see you changed the Texans pick, finally come to your senses? Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/12/09 - 5:30PM Orakpo is not worth the third overall pick. In a 3-4, Orakpo would be a hybrid/rushing LB. That's pretty high to take a rushing LB. Curry makes a little more sense because he's a three down LB. Even then, Curry seems a little much because quality LBs can be found later in the draft. Monroe makes sense because Monroe and Albert as bookends make that terrible O-line, half way decent. Not to mention if the Chiefs are going to keep LJ, they need people who will open up holes for him. Heck, even Crabtree makes more sense than Orakpo because at least it gives the Chiefs a threat to go alongside Bowe. But the top 10 looks terrible anyway. Wells and Johnson should not be there. They are both bottom first rounders, possibly 2nd rounders. Jags will not drat a QB because they just gave Garrard an extension last season. So change around a few picks and this will look pretty good. Hopefully. Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/12/09 - 5:33PM And you should give the Chiefs Antoine Caldwell because they need a good Center and he does well against big NTs. They need that with SD and Denver running 3-4s. And the Chiefs do not need CBs, unless they are a fast CB. They don't really have one of those. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/12/09 - 7:46PM yuck...Heyward-Bey? Posted by saints#12 on 4/13/09 - 8:41AM Derek Pegues S Mississippi, Shon Greene RB Iowa,GIVE THESE 2 TO THE Saints in the 4TH..how in the world do you having GREENE falling to the 7th rd? Posted by timb2 on 4/13/09 - 12:57PM Shonn Greene has a bad work ethic and possible learning problems.Had to sit out a year just to improve his grades Posted by timb2 on 4/13/09 - 1:02PM I do like Derek Pegues because he is a good player,but he is short and his speed is average.......... Posted by timb2 on 4/13/09 - 1:09PM I still don't get the hate Wells crowd.Big back who runs a 4.4? ....Johnson goes to the Raiders because he is Al Davis type of player.Workout stud,tall(6'-7"),and fast(4.6) I believe clocked at 4.59 at Ga Tech.Davis could easily take a player like BJ Raji,but Davis has only ever taken one DT 1st round in Darrell Russell at 320 lbs who ran a 4.8 fastest at DT that year....Davis has taken a DE 1st round I believe 9 times in the last 25 years. He took a guy like Tyler Brayton a few years ago because he had the 3rd fastest time at DE that year and 6'-6"...Davis wants basketball players at DE and world class sprinters at WR & CB. Posted by timb2 on 4/13/09 - 1:10PM Rich,Heyward-Bey fast WR,big and a homestate kid. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/14/09 - 10:27AM Why do you always tell me things that I al;ready know? What does Heyward-Bey being a hometown kid have to do with the Ravens drafting him? And Michael Johnson to the Raiders??? Maybe in round 2... Posted by Johanns21 on 4/14/09 - 10:29AM Wow....anybody that does a full seven round draft gets a lot of respect in my book. I do have some disagreements. I don't think DJ Moore falls to the third round but if the Bears got him I would be extatic. Posted by timb2 on 4/14/09 - 10:42AM Appreciate it Johann!!!! Posted by timb2 on 4/14/09 - 10:46AM Rich,it's Al Davis and he does weird stuff in the 1st round drafting kicker/punters.Al Davis always love some guy like Michael Johnson.Davis needs a WR so that is why Johnny Knox in the 3rd round.I even threw in Jared Cook in the 2nd because even though they have Zach Miller.It's Al Davis Posted by JETSARE#1 on 4/14/09 - 11:21AM u know what i know the combine is where we get player analysis, but what really counts, is what they do on the field, watchin their , games tapes scrimmages,all star games, to me determine what type of player u are gonna get, the combine is 4 showcasing,not saying it is worthless ,but itz doesnt guarantee u what u are gonna get Posted by JETSARE#1 on 4/14/09 - 11:23AM and itz the draft so u can expect the unexpected, so quit complaining about how horrible someone's picks cuz u never know how its gonna go down no one can be so sure even the professional draft anaylists Posted by R_M_Light on 4/14/09 - 11:40AM first off....Michael Johnson?! wtf thats a huge reach the guy is a late 1st. also the Raiders have Zach Miller; he will be a stud! why are they drafting another TE?! they wont pass on barden in round 3 they absolutely love him and they wont draft 2 receivers; wheres the round 3/4 safety pick?? Posted by timb2 on 4/14/09 - 1:03PM Thank you Jets!!! ..This is just for fun Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/14/09 - 3:47PM It is for fun, but some mocks can certainly be more likely or more in depth and well thought out than others. If it was truely "just for fun" I could put Pat White to Detroit at pick one, or have the Titans taking Lesean McCoy in round one, but what sense would that make? And why would any one even do a mock if it wasn't realistic? Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/14/09 - 3:52PM The feedback is the fun part for me. I love making the predictions and discussing it with others that are more knowledgable about a certain team then myself. Or maybe someone has seen a certain prospect more often than I have and has some new information to offer. That's the fun part, the debate of why a player would go to a team in a certain round. Figuring something out collectively or in a "census" format. It's the people on this site that can't take the criticism or get offended whenever some one proves one of their picks wrong that are the ones that claim "relax it's just for fun." Grant it sometimes people really should tone it down a bit, but I sure to love a good debate. Posted by DenverBroncosfan_7 on 4/14/09 - 3:58PM great denver draft! i love the mccoy pick, he would be a huge playmaker for denver. but i think mcdaniels will take a system qb in the later rds, like g harrell or c daniel. and 1 more thing, wells at 5? mike johnson at 7? crabtree 10?!?! maybin 23?? are you f***ing sh*tin me Posted by Johanns21 on 4/15/09 - 11:02AM I understand what you are saying about Al Davis, but lets give him a little credit. He isn't that big of an idiot. Yeah he values speed, but he probably won't take a tight end high because he's Al Davis. I could see him going after a defensive end and Johnson could be the guy, but they desperately need a wide receiver and if Crabtree or Maclin is available I would bet that is where they are probably thinking. Posted by Johanns21 on 4/15/09 - 11:02AM Oh and he did take Janakowski in the first round, but when has he taken a punter in the first round? Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/15/09 - 1:26PM He has never taken a punter, a kicker was absurd enough. Posted by eagleman992 on 4/15/09 - 5:08PM Davis did take a punter in the 1st round i think his name was Rey Guy but he did take a punter in the 1st Posted by Cowboysdraft09#1 on 4/17/09 - 3:45PM Roy Miller for the cowboys in the third round?!? Dallas could probaly get him in the fith round. And we need a safety more than a g or dt. Also stephen hodge in the fourth that is such a reach Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/18/09 - 6:28PM I like Monroe and Wood for the Chiefs. I would like some more LBs and DEs for the Chiefs, but as long as they get those two players, it'll be a successful draft for them. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 8:06AM Robiske's dad IS an NFL wide receivers coach, present tense. But that doesn't mean we will reach for him in round 1. I guess it is possible, and honestly I wouldnt mind it at all, but I think we'd take Britt or Nicks first. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 8:07AM oh and why do we need 2 wide outs in the first 3 rounds? we dont. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 9:41AM Jason Smith makes it to pick 9....yeah ok... Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/19/09 - 11:29AM You should switch picks 102 and 103. The Chiefs would take Cody Brown before Bradley Fletcher because they need a DE/OLB hybrid for their 3-4. And the Rams need help in that secondary, so it wouldn't be a bad choice for them. Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/19/09 - 11:37AM And the Eagles draft is a little odd. Why draft 3 linebackers (1 MLB, 2 OLB)? Maualuga could happen and Bradley could move back outside, but I do not see that as a need. I could see the Eagles taking Matthews to play outside if he falls that far. But the question comes to why you do not have them taking at least one big running back? That is where they need the most help. Everything else is good enough, but they need quality depth at running back and a back that is big to compliment Westbrook. And you also have them taking 2 centers, even though they already have a good center in Jackson. The O-line is set and if you are saying those picks are for depth, they need depth at OT. Posted by chiefsfan27 on 4/19/09 - 2:12PM never heard of the last 4 Chiefs picks. Passing on Cody Brown for who? Posted by BraylonChamp#17 on 4/19/09 - 2:39PM 2 wide receivers for the browns?! they have so many other needs man. No tight end, give em a safety or runningback with that pick. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:12PM Cheifsfan,I got you guys an ILB,but most these players are located under the position rankings. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:13PM Axe got the eagles a RB Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:14PM Braylonchamp ,got rid of the 3rd WR ,but had Pettigrew in the 2nd round to you guys already. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:16PM Rich, Ravens WRs I don't think highly of.Mason is old and I really think Clayton has been a flop. Posted by B_rent87 on 4/19/09 - 6:26PM Great pick at 118. Smart man you are Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:28PM OK Rich, if Sanchez goes 2nd,Monroe 3rd,Curry 4th where does Jason Smith go? Bengals who have no pass rushers.Raiders who Al Davis would grab a WR before OT and in Davis's mind Khalif Barnes was a free agent steal. Davis who believes Tommy Kelly was great and paid him big.Browns have Joe Thomas.Jags just signed Tra Thomas.So someone falls to 9. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 6:30PM So what if Mason is old? His production has not declined at all and Clayton could be considered a flop for where he was drafted but has flourished under Flacco. We'll take one receiver, but definitely not too. Do you really think Mike Wallace would be an upgrade over any one of our receivers? Absolutely not, he's a return man at best and we already have a guy that runs faster than Wallace in Yamon Figurs. Hakeem Nicks could be the pick but probably won't produce in Baltimore for a few years. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:30PM b-rent,Shockey had zero TDs and less than 500 yards receiving.Maybe Giants snookered the Saints Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:31PM Rich you are such a homer!LOL! Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 7:31PM Mason had 80 catches for over 1,000 yards last season...how am I being a homer? And Sanchez isn't going 2, Jason Smith is so that's where it leaves him. On the .01% chance that the Rams go in a different direction Smith probably wouldn't get past Seattle at 4, and no chance in hell he gets past Cincinnati at 6. Posted by bengalrugby on 4/19/09 - 8:05PM Bengals need a starting punter and FB. They also have heavy interest in Andre Smith and a lot of money tied up in DE already. Looking for a 3 down DE so Geathers and Odom can rotate in and stay fresh, as they were productive situational pass rushers in the past and need to get back to being situational to find success rushing the passer. Hodge is too one dimensional as a safety, since they believe in just safeties, not free and strong. Likely to draft a slower, physical corner to fill the safety gap. No DT's needed since the Bengals drafted 2 last year and like what they've seen so far, plus they just signed Tank Johnson. They also need a return man, since no one is currently reliable. Posted by eagleman992 on 4/19/09 - 8:42PM Eagles should draft Barden in round 3.the guy is big decent speed and nice hands he should do well in Philly.Wells and MJD are almost the same back but MJD is a small bowling ball.I dont get Jets pick they wont take him at 17 maybe in round 2 they can take him if avaliable but no need to reach there.I hate the Eagles pick you have to really explain yourself on that pick.As much as i love USC i dont want Rey in Philly.Williams in 1st also. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 8:53PM Rashad Jennings FB Liberty? Dude...Jennings is a running back that could get drafted in round 2, probably won't get out of round 3. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 8:59PM Eagleman,the eagles defense has not been the same since Jermiah Trotter left.His presence and blitzing from the middle was a real weapon.Bradley is a stiff and Gaither really is a WLB.You guys lost your emotional leader and fan favorite Brian Dawkins. Youtube "Introducing Rey Maualuga" and tell me Philly would not go crazy for this guy.Philly fans are upset about Dawkins and your team has to calm the fans down before a mutiny. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 9:09PM Benglrugby,still switching around.Not sure on Bengals ends.Geather really seems to me he should be a reserve and Antwan Odom I know because I live near TN.Odom is a loafer and only turned it on when his contract was up. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 9:13PM Rich,not sure on Jennings.Big back but combine was a 4.6.Small college and he ran a bunch already.Pro game is just faster.Reminds me of DJ Dozier,Curtis Enis,etc.Big back with the same stuff before the draft.He doesn't need to be that fast.They needed to be. Posted by eagleman992 on 4/19/09 - 9:47PM I know its been different since Trotter left he was like Dawkins hard to replace.But last year the LBs did really good and if you rewatch games Bradly is uprising.He is a good blitzer and not bad at covering.He can stop the run and he has the potential of becoming a great LB.Also Gaither doesnt start anymore its Akeem Jordan who is an animal.This guy is fast and he is not a big guy but can definatly deliver a hit.And at the same time do you think the Eagles are going to address LB 1st.I dont thats not until 5th round at least. Posted by jasonpeters71 on 4/19/09 - 9:51PM There is no way the Bills pass up Pettigrew for Cook and dont get Eric Wood Posted by cat9 on 4/19/09 - 9:55PM timb2, your working real hard at this. Do you care what the Lions want. I wont be the one to tell you. I'll just point you in the right direction. If you want. Again, I'm not offering my opinion, just some reading material and you can take it for what it's worth. Posted by Cheeba on 4/19/09 - 10:12PM u talk about the titans WRs bein slow but u have em drafting derrick williams instead of harvin????!! makes no sense to me Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 11:15PM Eagleman,would you really rather have Maualuga or Bradley?Bradley is decent,but Maualuga could be All-Pro. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 11:18PM Cat,I know Lions have lots of needs.Their defense was last againist the rush.They hate their MLBs.No real sure 2nd WR.OT &OGs & C's.A strong safety. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 11:20PM Cheeba,Derrick Williams was sick during the combine.He ran a 4.37 on his pro day.Harvin ran a 4.41 and also has the drug problem over his head.Jeff Fisher will not have anymore problem children after Pacman.That is why GM Floyd Reese was fired. Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 11:22PM Cook vs Pettigrew is just an opinion and different view.I wouldn't pass on a TE running 4.4s Posted by Cheeba on 4/19/09 - 11:30PM it looks to me like u put too much emphazis on the combine..look at the tape!! put pads on em and i guarantee u harvin is faster!! Posted by Cheeba on 4/19/09 - 11:32PM and knowshon, 45th?? Posted by Cheeba on 4/19/09 - 11:36PM if the Chiefs draft Monroe they would not move Albert to guard!!! That would be ridiculous!..They both would play OT Posted by eagleman992 on 4/19/09 - 11:57PM Maualuga isnt established yet we dont know if he will be god or bad.Bradley is already a good player.thats all im saying he isnt established as a NFL player thats spectaculor Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/20/09 - 12:03AM Chiefs still need defense. Rushing LBs and 3-4 DEs. And possibly one ILB. Posted by timb2 on 4/20/09 - 1:25AM The Chiefs have Damen McIntosh at RT.Check the database on Tyrone McKenzie and Rhyan Anderson and maybe they can do for OLB & DE. Posted by timb2 on 4/20/09 - 1:28AM Knowshown can't break a 4.6 and he has nice moves but pros will eat him up. Posted by timb2 on 4/20/09 - 1:29AM Harvin is a druggie!!!!! Why would anyone want to put up with his nonsense? Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/20/09 - 2:03AM Damion McIntosh's nickname is Sackintosh. He is slow and does not block. Trust me timb2, he'll be replaced this season. Goff was picked up in the off-season and he'll be starting at RG and Albert would be moved to RT. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/20/09 - 10:00AM So you think Willis, Manny Lawson who has been a complete bust, and an unproven rokie in Brian Cushing will be the best LB core in the NFL? Don't know about that one champ... Posted by timb2 on 4/20/09 - 1:33PM I meant youthful group of LBs with talent to be the best.My mistake. Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/21/09 - 12:50PM yeah well i guess theyd have an upside, I think Cush is great but I think all the questions about steroids and can he play 3 downs may drop him a bit to the mid-teens or even to NE at 23. Still think there's no chance in hell for Sanchez, Wells, and Johnson to go that high. Posted by timb2 on 4/21/09 - 1:27PM Rich,going to be fun see what happens. Posted by Cheeba on 4/21/09 - 2:08PM JASON SMITH AT 9????????????? Posted by Johanns21 on 4/21/09 - 2:58PM Robiskie at 17? I know many may feel is is very polished, but still. Ahead of Hakeem Nicks and Darius Heyward-Bey. Derek Williams in the first round? Let alone to the Titans who don't like taking WR's in the first round? I don't know dude. Posted by Johanns21 on 4/21/09 - 2:59PM Bears taking a TE when they already have Greg Olsen, Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, and Fontell Mines. Posted by B_rent87 on 11/2/09 - 1:54PM
If Denver was able to get this draft I would have been very happy |