Welcome Guest ( Login | Register )


2009 Full Round 1 Mock NFL Draft

Originally Submitted: 03/31/2009 - 10:35AM CDT
Last Updated: 11/01/2009 - 4:54PM CST
Posted By: timb2

Round 1
  1. Matt Stafford QB Georgia
  2. Lions need a franchise QB.Stafford over Sanchez because Stafford has more expierence,but I believe Sanchez has more talent ,but Stafford is more ready to start.
  3. Mark Sanchez QB USC
  4. Rams were 26th in passing offense,Bulger was benched at one point last season,Bulger is going to be 33 when the season starts.They draft the franchise QB and foul up all those teams wanting to trade up for Sanchez.Last point, if Seahawks or Niners want Sanchez and Rams are in the same division.They will sabotage those teams from getting that QB.
  5. Eugene Monroe OT Virginia
  6. Monroe teamed with Albert will make great bookends.
  7. Aaron Curry OLB Wake Forest
  8. Julian Peterson trade leaves an opening.Walter Jones faded some,but still was very good and no reason to draft a RT this high.
  9. Chris Wells RB Ohio State
  10. Browns will have no weapons on offense after Braylon Edwards is traded to the Giants.Mangini is in complete overhaul mode of this team.He needs to calm the fans nerves and one way is to take the homestate kid.Also Crabtree is not ready and not sure surgery will not effect him.Is he more prone to another injury of this foot?Browns were last in rushing.
  11. Brian Orakpo DE Texas
  12. Bengals have no pass rush.The Bengals DEs were pitiful.Orakpo is a upgrade over Geathers or Odom.
  13. Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech
  14. Al Davis has always drafted combine studs.The Raiders need pass rushers and Johnson is similar to the tall lanky types from years past that Davis favors.Sean Jones,Ted Hendricks,Scott Davis,etc.
  15. Michael Crabtree WR Texas Tech
  16. Jaguars have no threats at WR.Matt Jones was cut.Reggie Williams has never lived up to his billing.They gamble Crabtree will be healthy.
  17. Jason Smith OT Baylor
  18. Both Clifton & Tausher are over 30.The Packers are elated to see Jason Smith slide.More likely a team trades up before this pick here,but since I don't have trades.He is slotted here.Also don't be surprise Packers trade up for him with the Seahawks or Browns.
  19. Brian Cushing OLB USC
  20. Niners would have the best young LBs in the league if they draft Cushing to pair with Willis & Lawson.Niners have not had consistent performers on defense besides Willis and Singletary will change that by bringing in tough active players.
  21. Aaron Maybin DE Penn State
  22. Bills need a pass rush.Playing in the Great Blue North is tough and they need a kid who can play in the cold.Maybin is the choice over Everette Brown.
  23. B.J. Raji NT Boston College
  24. Broncos want to switch to 3-4 defense.Raji is the anchor for the switch.Josh McDaniels is in full fear of his job after the Cutler fiasco and he needs to succeed quick before Bowlen pulls the plug on him.Broncos defense was horrible last year.
  25. Clay Matthews OLB USC
  26. Starts at SLB from Day 1 and if bloodlines are true, for the next 20 years.Does not get enough credit overshadowed by Cushing and Malauga,but his numbers do not lie.He might become the best of the bunch.
  27. Malcolm Jenkins S Ohio State
  28. Josh Bullocks is gone which Saints fans are relieved and Jenkins is going to play safety here. Jenkins is a good tackler,but his lack of speed hurt him.Luckily the Saints need a safety and he is the pick.
  29. Jeremy Maclin WR Missouri
  30. Starts from Day 1 opposite Andre Johnson.Texans problem has been no offense.Andre Johnson can't do it all.Slaton helped last year,but more offense is needed.
  31. Andre Smith OT Alabama
  32. Jerome Clary gave up 6.5 sacks as the RT.Andre Smith might save his fate of being a bust by getting a chance to play RT.
  33. Brian Robiske WR Ohio State
  34. Jets have lots of holes , but Coles leaving is a big one.Jets GM drafted Kellen Clemons and I feel he would not want to admit he made a mistake so no Josh Freeman here.Robiske is the selection because he is the sure non-bust pick.His NFL WR coach Dad(Terry Robiske) has him ready for the Pros.Knows how to run routes,good hands,good size,decent speed,and good kid. Jets fans will scream on Draft Day,but he will shut them up during the season.
  35. Tyson Jackson DE LSU
  36. Building that 3-4 defense.McDaniels lucks out and grabs Jackson.This allows Jarvis Moss & Tim Crowder to both play the OLBs spots.270 lbs OLBs
  37. Everette Brown DE Florida State
  38. Bucs need an edge rusher to go with Gaines Adams.Brown can only succeed with a guy like Adams on the other side.Also like Buffalo in the cold,Bucs need someone for the heat.
  39. Michael Oher OT Mississippi
  40. Lion gave up over 40 sacks last season.Lions have to grab O-lineman in this draft and solid OL players.Oher easily could beat out Jeff Backus who is struggling at LT with age catching up to him.
  41. Rey Maualuga MLB USC
  42. The way Eagles blitz their defense ,Maualuga is their man.Eagles also need a charismatic leader after Dawkins left.Stewart Bradley is good,but Maualuga would be great and a star in Philly.Bradley would slide to OLB to compete with Gocong.
  43. Josh Freeman QB Kansas State
  44. Rosenfels & Jackson are not the answer.Vikes coach needs to save his job and maybe not want to draft a QB,but the sure thing is to get their franchise's future.
  45. James Laurinaitus ILB Ohio State
  46. LBs are a big key to their success.Teddy Brushci is 36 years old.Patriots are fazing out their old dinosaur players.
  47. Jarron Gilbert DT San Jose State
  48. Falcons were 25th vs the rush and have no names at DT..Falcons got lucky last year and under the radar and stole some wins.Teams are aware of them and Falcons needs to hide secondary problem with rushers.
  49. Darius Butler CB UConn
  50. Phins CBs are average.Just like the Falcons got by with smoke and mirrors. With the best corner on the board.Butler is the pick.
  51. Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
  52. Ravens WRs do not scare anyone.Nicks could have been the drafted higher in the draft,but he gained over 14 lbs in 2 months and his pro day acted disinterested.Concerns are that he will not care once that signing bonus money is in his hands.
  53. Evander Hood DT Missouri
  54. Colts are very light at DT.Colts got blindsided by Johnson & Pittcock last year and they suffered on defense.Will not happen this year.They will make sure Freeney & Mathis are able to run roughshod at the ends
  55. William Beatty OT UConn
  56. Jason Peters trade makes LT a priority.Beatty is a solid OT and would probably have gone higher than having to compete with the other OTs in this draft in previous years.
  57. Darrius Heyward-Bey WR Maryland
  58. Browns are rebuilding their offense.Have to get players ready to play and speed can equalize inexpierence until they are seasoned.
  59. Derrick Williams WR Penn State
  60. Titans WRs are slow.Williams ran faster than Percy Harvin and does not have the baggage Harvin does.Titans also could use a good PR and Williams fits the bill.
  61. Knowshown Moreno RB Georgia
  62. Edgerrin James will be gone and not 100% Tim Hightower is their longterm answer.
  63. Max Unger C Oregon
  64. With so many teams switching to 3-4 defense need an upgrade over journeyman Justin Hartwig.Hartwig almost cost the Steelers with his holding penalty for a safety the Superbowl.
  65. Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma
  66. Connor Barwin OLB Cincinnati
  67. Percy Harvin WR Florida
  68. Clint Sintim OLB Virginia
  69. Patrick Chung S Oregon
  70. Alex Mack C California
  71. William Moore S Missouri
  72. Vontae Davis CB Illinois
  73. Larry English OLB Northern Illinois
  74. Jared Cook TE South Carolina
  75. Rashad Johnson S Alabama
  76. Kenny Britt WR Rutgers
  77. Eben Britton OT Arizona
  78. Sean Smith S Utah
  79. Alphonso Smith CB Wake Forest
  80. Donald Brown RB UConn
  81. Robert Ayers DE Tennessee
  82. Brandon Pettigrew TE Oklahoma State
  83. Herman Johnson OG LSU
  84. Fili Moala DE USC
  85. LeSean McCoy RB Pittsburgh
  86. Gerald Cadigan OT Penn State
  87. Louis Delmas S Western Michigan
  88. Ron Brace NT Boston College
  89. Jasper Brinkley ILB South Carolina
  90. Demetrous Byrd WR LSU
  91. Shawne Nelson TE Southern Mississippi
  92. David Bruton S Notre Dame
  93. Peria Jerry DT Mississippi
  94. Asher Allen CB Georgia
  95. Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin
  96. Phil Loadholt OT Oklahoma
  97. Alex Magee DT Missouri
  98. Jamon Meridith OT South Carolina
  99. Eric Wood C Louisville
  100. Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State
  101. Chip Vaughn S Wake Forest
  102. Xavier Fulton OT Illinois
  103. Johnny Knox WR Abilene-Christian
  104. Marcus Freeman OLB Ohio State
  105. Lawrence Sidbury OLB Richmond
  106. Stryker Sulak OLB Missouri
  107. Andy Levitre OG Oregon State
  108. Andre Brown RB NC State
  109. Darcel McBath S Texas Tech
  110. Zach Potter DE Nebraska
  111. Kevin Barnes CB Maryland
  112. Henry Melton DE Texas
  113. Gerald McRath OLB Southern Mississippi
  114. Corneilus Ingram TE Florida
  115. Victor Harris CB Virginia Tech
  116. Lyndon Murtha OT Nebraska
  117. James Casey TE Rice
  118. Ramses Barden WR Cal-Poly
  119. Terrance Knighton NT Temple
  120. Mike Wallace WR Mississippi
  121. Patrick Turner WR USC
  122. Sherrod Martin S Troy
  123. Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati
  124. Juanquin Igilesias WR Oklahoma
  125. Kraig Urbik OG Wisconsin
  126. Steven Hodge S TCU
  127. Aaron Kelly WR Clemson
  128. Corneilus Lewis OG Tennessee State
  129. Chris Baker NT Hampton
  130. Chase Coffman TE Missouri
  131. D.J. Moore CB Vanderbilt
  132. Jason Williams OLB Western Illinois
  133. Roy Miller NT Texas
  134. Cody Brown OLB UConn
  135. Alex Boone OT Ohio State
  136. Khalif Mitchell DE East Carolina
  137. Louis Murphy WR Florida
  138. Paul Krueger DE Utah
  139. Nate Davis QB Ball State
  140. Tony Fiammetta FB Syracuse
  141. Javon Ringer RB Michigan State
  142. Julius Williams OLB UConn
  143. Clinton McDonald DE Memphis
  144. Johnathan Casillas OLB Wisconsin
  145. Johnathan Luigs C Arkansas
  146. Johnny Williams ILB Kentucky
  147. Deon Butler WR Penn State
  148. Jason McCourty CB Rutgers
  149. Zach Follet OLB California
  150. Cam Morrah TE California
  151. Sammie Stroughter WR Oregon State
  152. Manuel Johnson WR Oklahoma
  153. Bradley Fletcher CB Iowa
  154. Louis Vasquez OG Texas Tech
  155. Joel Bell OT Furman
  156. Tyronne Green OG Auburn
  157. Sammie Lee Hill DT Stillman
  158. Lance Louis OG San Diego State
  159. Ricky Francois OLB Boston College
  160. Bruce Johnson CB Miami
  161. Greg Isdaner OG West Virginia
  162. Terrance Taylor DT Michigan
  163. Mark Parson CB Ohio University
  164. Joe Burnett CB Central Florida
  165. Trevor Canfield OG Cincinnati
  166. Brannan Southerland FB Georgia
  167. Brandon Hughes CB Oregon State
  168. Keenan Lewis CB Oregon State
  169. Courtney Greene S Rutgers
  170. Jason Phillips MLB TCU
  171. Rashad Jennings RB Liberty
  172. Derek Pegues S Mississippi
  173. Mohammad Massaqoui WR Georgia
  174. Rashon Harris DT Oregon
  175. Chris Owens San Jose State
  176. James Davis RB Clemson
  177. Robbie Felix C UTEP
  178. Brandon Swain OLB West Texas A&M
  179. Curtis Painter QB Purdue
  180. Kenny McKinley WR South Carolina
  181. Captain Munnerlyn CB South Carolina
  182. Donald Washington CB Ohio tate
  183. Fenuki Tupou OT Oregon
  184. Pat White QB West Virginia
  185. Brooks Foster WR North Carolina
  186. Brandon Walker OG Oklahoma
  187. Cedric Peerman RB Virginia
  188. Dwayne Lewis CB Utah State
  189. Antoine Caldwell C Alabama
  190. Marko Mitchell WR Nevada
  191. Brian Williams S Akron
  192. T J Lang Eastern Michigan
  193. Mike Thomas WR Arizona
  194. Demonte Bolden DE Tennessee
  195. Cullen Harper QB Clemson
  196. John Phillips TE Virginia
  197. Domonique Johnson CB Jackson State
  198. Desmond Bishop DE Harvard
  199. Jason Watkins OT Florida
  200. Stephen McGee QB Texas A & M
  201. Antonio Appleby ILB Virginia
  202. Andrew Gardner OT Georgia Tech
  203. Corvey Irvin NT Georgia
  204. Tommy Breaux WR Townsend State
  205. Tom Brandstater QB Fresno State
  206. Darry Beckwith MLB LSU
  207. Frank Summers FB UNLV
  208. Sebastian Vollmer OT Houston
  209. Austin Collie WR BYU
  210. Mike Goodson RB Texas A&M
  211. LaDarius Webb CB Nicholls State
  212. Will Johnson OG Michigan
  213. Fred Roland OT Duke
  214. Marcus McClinton S Kentucky
  215. Vince Butler CB New Mexico State
  216. Tiquan Underwood WR Temple
  217. Tony Carter CB Florida State
  218. Dexter Manley Jr. DE West Texas A & M
  219. Tyler Lorenzen QB UConn
  220. Sean Sester OT Purdue
  221. Nader Abdullah DE Ohio State
  222. Derek Cox CB William & Mary
  223. DeAndre Levy OLB Wisconsin
  224. Mike Rivera OLB Kansas
  225. Brandon Long OLB Michigan State
  226. Jamaica Sanford S Mississippi
  227. Everette Pendestcleaux DE Northern Iowa
  228. Josh Mauga MLB Nevada
  229. Kirston Pittman OLB LSU
  230. Quinn Johnson FB LSU
  231. Antone Smith RB Florida State
  232. Jamar Chaney OLB Mississippi State
  233. Brandon Underwood CB Cincinnati
  234. Rob Bruggeman C Iowa
  235. Eron Riley WR Duke
  236. Brice McCain CB Utah
  237. Lee Robinson ILB Alcorn State
  238. Jerraud Powers CB Auburn
  239. Tyrone McKenzie OLB South Florida
  240. Devon Hall S Utah State
  241. Ian Johnson RB Boise State
  242. David Johnson QB Tulsa
  243. Troy Nolan S Arizona State
  244. Michael Reed OLB Central Oklahoma
  245. Sen Derrick Marks DT Auburn
  246. Rob Haynes CB Michigan Tech
  247. Phil Traughtwein OT Florida
  248. Andre Means WR Indiana
  249. Raphael Nguti OT Albany
  250. John Gill NT Northwestern
  251. CJ Spillman S Marshall
  252. Louis West OG Henderson State
  253. Kevin Brock TE Rutgers
  254. Jacob Lacey CB Oklahoma State
  255. Demario Willingham CB Tennessee
  256. Cecil Newton C Tennessee State
  257. Ray Feinga OG BYU
  258. Mitch King DE Iowa
  259. Cuyler Groth OT Brockport State
  260. Darrius Passmore WR Marshall
  261. Derek Walker DE Illinois
  262. Ryan Mouton CB Hawaii
  263. Chris Kemme OT Akron
  264. Emanuel Cook S South Carolina
  265. Ernest Mitchell DT Arkansas
  266. Jon Cooper C Oklahona
  267. Jeremy Navarre DE Maryland
  268. DeAndre Wright CB New Mexico
  269. Sam Allen OG Grand Valley State
  270. Dominic Edison WR Stephen F. Austin
  271. Lucas Taylor WR Tennessee
  272. Terrill Byrd DT Cincinnati
  273. Tyler Roehl FB North Dakota State
  274. Anthony Parker OG Tennessee
  275. Myron Pryor DT Kentucky
  276. Mike Teel QB Rutgers
  277. Brennan Marion WR Tulsa
  278. Zachary Miller TE Nebraska0Omaha
  279. Greg Toler CB St. Paul
  280. Dhana Deleston S UConn
  281. Kyle Moore DE USC
  282. Brad Jones OLB Colorado
  283. Rulon Davis DT California
  284. Lydell Sargent CB Penn State
  285. Russell Allen OLB San Diego State
  286. Whitman Reese CB Coastal Carolina
  287. Dudley Guice WR Northwestern State
  288. Rhyan Anderson DE New Mexico State
  289. Just doing a review from last year.
 

Submit Comment:

You must Log In to post comments.

Viewer Comments:

Posted by showtime390 on 4/9/09 - 1:28PM
The giants draft is ok, a couple picks should be changed though. The DT postion is fine and has very good depth. The back-up QB situation is fine with Carr and Woodson, and the giants have a perfect fullback for how they play, another one isn't needed. A position of need that isn't in this draft is offensive tackle. They could also add a DE and a RB in the later rounds.
Posted by timb2 on 4/9/09 - 1:43PM
Appreciate the info showtime.Still moving guys around.
Posted by Cheeba on 4/9/09 - 2:06PM
Bears will NOT be taking a WR with there 2 first day picks they got other needs and and will get 1 but not 2.. got kevin jones as fortes back up so RB is not a pressing need..OL(protect cutler!),CB,DE,OLB,S woulda been a better pick..nice draft though
Posted by eagleman992 on 4/9/09 - 2:15PM
I dont think he will switch to guard because he is a good tackle the Eagles wont pass him up regardless they could move Herremans to LT and put him at guard if anything
Posted by cat9 on 4/9/09 - 3:04PM
How you managed to mock an entire draft and not find one starter for an 0-16 Lions team I'll never know.
Posted by Norvnice on 4/9/09 - 4:39PM
Barwin is not going in the first round!! He doesn't have a position and is outrageously raw dog! Chill! 2nd round, someone will bite!!
Posted by broncolaw on 4/9/09 - 10:18PM
That second round pick for the Broncos makes no sense. In case you didn't hear, Denver had one of the best, if not the best, o-line in the NFL.
Posted by broncolaw on 4/9/09 - 10:20PM
No way Andre Smith falls that far. I'll be shocked if he drops out of the top 10.
Posted by eagleman992 on 4/9/09 - 10:55PM
Broncoclaw yes Broncos have a good line no way it is top yes they have a great tackle in Clady and he the guy from ND they took in the 3rd round last year i believe and the rest of the line is like 30 and aboce no young guys.I may be exagerating but they arent a youthful line.They will defiantly addrees the need in their 3rd or 4th pick i think because they need it
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 7:15AM
I know for a fact that Ozzie Smith would not pass on Andre Smith. If he falls past 10 (which is HIGHLY unlikely), we'll probably trade up for him. Also that Ravens first round has no chance of happening after signing Samari Rolle.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 7:16AM
The Texans arent starting Anthony Weaver, they signed Antonio Smith in FA. They will certainly not be going DE now with pressing needs at S, OLB, RB.
Posted by jwitosky on 4/10/09 - 9:56AM
I don't know what character concerns Jenkins has but there is absolutely no way he falls out of round 1. Hands down he's just a better overall athlete than Butler. You must not know too much about football, because you barely ever run 40 yard sprints all game long, so you take butler I would stick with Jenkins.
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 10:11AM
Jenkins was slow .Vontae Davis has the character concerns.Jenkins barely broke 4.6 and he will tested long all the time.Yeah Ohio State has had some very good CBs come out,but this one is going to be a safety by year 3 because he will be toasted. Darius Butler will be the best corner in this draft 2 years from now.I promise you. Youtube both Butler & Jenkins and all you will see on Jenkins is a good tackler.Butler you will see coverage & tackling.Butler will be man to man and Jenkins will have to be zone.
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 11:02AM
Cat,it's the Lions would you expect anything different?LOL!
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 11:05AM
My last say on Andre Smith,when he gets his signing bonus ,do you think he is going to get in shape or go to the buffet line?
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 11:07AM
Aaron Curry didn't get to the QB alot.The Chiefs have a similar guy in Derrick Johnson to Curry.They need a sack artist.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 11:21AM
Your Texans pick's are god awful still. They have HUGE needs at S and OLB, and you have them taking a backup safety and backup tight end with their first 2 picks? That's simply not going to happen. Andre Smith can get in as many buffet lines as he wants, he is getting drafted in the top 10 no question. Derrick Johnson is NOT Aaron Curry, Curry was not asked to rsuh the passer at Wake...therefor did not generate many sacks. Orakpo was a sack artist but who knows how he will do in a 3-4 in the NFL, he's one sided, Curry can play his position OR inside...the pick makes no sense. Chris Wells at 5 is way too high, he'll be a great running back...but running backs arent valued as much as other positions and the Browns have much bigger needs. This draft gets worse and worse every time I look at it, and you are too stubborn to take any suggestions. I am all for differing opinions but some of these picks are just ridiculous...like you just slotted random names...do some serious research and try again...
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 11:24AM
Oh and your Ravens draft is among the worst I have ever seen. Thank god Ozzie Newsome is drafting instead of you...are you seriously suggesting we would take Vontae Davis with Fabian Washington, Samari Rolle, Domonique Foxworth and Chris Carr...haha no way!
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 12:02PM
I have the Texans taking Zach Follett OLB California in the 2nd. Texans have so many holes.
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 12:03PM
Shawn Nelson would start and Daniels would be the 2nd TE by seasons end.
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 12:04PM
OK you convinced me on the Ravens.I still thought Foxworth was in ATA and Rolle being resigned.
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 1:05PM
OK Rich who is the Browns offense?Braylon Edwards who says Browns hold a grudge on him because he played at Michigan?He is history traded.Donte Stallworth?Maybe in 15 years.Kellen Winslow is in Tampa and Jamaal Lewis is slow and couldn't break a run if he was taking ex-lax. The Browns have no one on offense.No weapons.
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 1:08PM
Texans have Antonio Smith and his 3.5 sacks.Shaun Cody who couldn't even be a bagboy because he couldn't get a sack. Texans have needs everywhere and Eugene Wilson,Demps,Ferguson are not great,but what the Texans have so many holes,they will do.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 1:39PM
Shawn Nelson would not start over Owen Daniels and it's a ridiculous argument to hold anyway because the Texans wouldnt use a second round pick on a tight end when they already have one of the most productive in the league.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 1:41PM
No one is expecting Antonio Smith to get double digit sacks but he can definitely provide enough of a pass rush to make Mario Williams even better. Shaun Cody doesnt have to get sacks, he's a defensive tackle. As long as he can take up some blocks Mario can do the rest, Everette Brown will not be drafted by the Texans...it's absurd.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/10/09 - 1:44PM
The Browns do not have any play makers on offense, your right, but they're also looking pretty weak on defense and this has NOTHING TO DO WITH VALUE. Why waste pick 5 on a player that many mocks have going at the bottom of the first round? The value pick there would be Michael Crabtree or Eugene Monroe. Again Chris Wells is great, but he does not warrant a top 5 pick. The Browns can get a running back like Donald Brown with their first second round pick.
Posted by timb2 on 4/10/09 - 11:58PM
You guys need to wake up about Crabtree.He is getting over a surgery.He may never be the same player.Who is going to know? He could be running 4.9s...Texans need someone besides just Mario Williams bringing pressure. You say it is absurd.How is it absurd? Another good bookend then another free agent scrub.Just change the name Anthony Weaver-Antonio Smith.
Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 12:05AM
OK I will give you a Texans safety and get rid of Shawne Nelson.Owen Daniels is not the prototype but he is productive.
Posted by eagleman992 on 4/11/09 - 1:12AM
i dont think 40 times mean that much at all.they are just a number Boldin ran his 40 in 4,72 Jerry Rice ran very slow look what happened greatest WR in the game dont base someone off their 40 time.And Texans wont take a DE in round 1 with all the CBs avaliable.Why would the Broncos still take a RB tell me why they would take one.Also why the Eagles are still passing Andre Smith no doubt they will take him if he is avaliable i dont care how much his syocked may have dropped he is going to be an Eagle if he was avaliable at that spot.Wells is not going at 5.Im just going to end up saying the same thing so just change things for the most part
Posted by eagleman992 on 4/11/09 - 11:35AM
So what he didnt start he still gives them decent numbers and all the backs they did have before they got injured did pretty good and now they want to take a 7th back no dont even go there
Posted by t-dazzle on 4/11/09 - 12:36PM
Wow, at least 10 players that have no business being in the first round!
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/11/09 - 1:05PM
haha the Derrick Williams to Tennessee in round 1 pick is priceless. You give them a round 3-4 receiver at pick 30, claiming that their wide outs are slow...when Derrick Williams ran a 4.6 hahaha...I have officially lost what little respect I had for this mock, it useless to argue with you and these terrible picks.
Posted by jpiz on 4/11/09 - 1:16PM
Horrible Rams draft Safety is probably the rams strongest defensive position and you got 2 for no reason when we already have Craig Dahl and Todd Johnson for depth
Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 1:53PM
Ha HA the laugh is on you Rich.Derrick Williams had bronchitus at the combine on his Pro Day he ran a low 4.4.
Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 1:56PM
I disagree ipiz,Rams safeties need an upgrade.
Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 1:58PM
Derrick Williams had one time at 4.37
Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 2:12PM
Come on back Rich. I proved you are wrong on Derrick Williams and you have to eat your words,but we all have too.I had to eat them on the Ravens CBs you are right,but I'm not trying to be your rival. Why can't you and me just agree to disagree on theories for the draft?
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/11/09 - 3:04PM
Fine I didnt know that, but he still isnt round one worthy by any means.
Posted by timb2 on 4/11/09 - 3:44PM
Oh yeah he is.He has better hands and runs routes better than Darrius Heyward-Bey.He also is returner.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/11/09 - 5:01PM
I guess we'll see guy.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/12/09 - 9:00AM
I see you changed the Texans pick, finally come to your senses?
Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/12/09 - 5:30PM
Orakpo is not worth the third overall pick. In a 3-4, Orakpo would be a hybrid/rushing LB. That's pretty high to take a rushing LB. Curry makes a little more sense because he's a three down LB. Even then, Curry seems a little much because quality LBs can be found later in the draft. Monroe makes sense because Monroe and Albert as bookends make that terrible O-line, half way decent. Not to mention if the Chiefs are going to keep LJ, they need people who will open up holes for him. Heck, even Crabtree makes more sense than Orakpo because at least it gives the Chiefs a threat to go alongside Bowe. But the top 10 looks terrible anyway. Wells and Johnson should not be there. They are both bottom first rounders, possibly 2nd rounders. Jags will not drat a QB because they just gave Garrard an extension last season. So change around a few picks and this will look pretty good. Hopefully.
Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/12/09 - 5:33PM
And you should give the Chiefs Antoine Caldwell because they need a good Center and he does well against big NTs. They need that with SD and Denver running 3-4s. And the Chiefs do not need CBs, unless they are a fast CB. They don't really have one of those.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/12/09 - 7:46PM
yuck...Heyward-Bey?
Posted by saints#12 on 4/13/09 - 8:41AM
Derek Pegues S Mississippi, Shon Greene RB Iowa,GIVE THESE 2 TO THE Saints in the 4TH..how in the world do you having GREENE falling to the 7th rd?
Posted by timb2 on 4/13/09 - 12:57PM
Shonn Greene has a bad work ethic and possible learning problems.Had to sit out a year just to improve his grades
Posted by timb2 on 4/13/09 - 1:02PM
I do like Derek Pegues because he is a good player,but he is short and his speed is average..........
Posted by timb2 on 4/13/09 - 1:09PM
I still don't get the hate Wells crowd.Big back who runs a 4.4? ....Johnson goes to the Raiders because he is Al Davis type of player.Workout stud,tall(6'-7"),and fast(4.6) I believe clocked at 4.59 at Ga Tech.Davis could easily take a player like BJ Raji,but Davis has only ever taken one DT 1st round in Darrell Russell at 320 lbs who ran a 4.8 fastest at DT that year....Davis has taken a DE 1st round I believe 9 times in the last 25 years. He took a guy like Tyler Brayton a few years ago because he had the 3rd fastest time at DE that year and 6'-6"...Davis wants basketball players at DE and world class sprinters at WR & CB.
Posted by timb2 on 4/13/09 - 1:10PM
Rich,Heyward-Bey fast WR,big and a homestate kid.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/14/09 - 10:27AM
Why do you always tell me things that I al;ready know? What does Heyward-Bey being a hometown kid have to do with the Ravens drafting him? And Michael Johnson to the Raiders??? Maybe in round 2...
Posted by Johanns21 on 4/14/09 - 10:29AM
Wow....anybody that does a full seven round draft gets a lot of respect in my book. I do have some disagreements. I don't think DJ Moore falls to the third round but if the Bears got him I would be extatic.
Posted by timb2 on 4/14/09 - 10:42AM
Appreciate it Johann!!!!
Posted by timb2 on 4/14/09 - 10:46AM
Rich,it's Al Davis and he does weird stuff in the 1st round drafting kicker/punters.Al Davis always love some guy like Michael Johnson.Davis needs a WR so that is why Johnny Knox in the 3rd round.I even threw in Jared Cook in the 2nd because even though they have Zach Miller.It's Al Davis
Posted by JETSARE#1 on 4/14/09 - 11:21AM
u know what i know the combine is where we get player analysis, but what really counts, is what they do on the field, watchin their , games tapes scrimmages,all star games, to me determine what type of player u are gonna get, the combine is 4 showcasing,not saying it is worthless ,but itz doesnt guarantee u what u are gonna get
Posted by JETSARE#1 on 4/14/09 - 11:23AM
and itz the draft so u can expect the unexpected, so quit complaining about how horrible someone's picks cuz u never know how its gonna go down no one can be so sure even the professional draft anaylists
Posted by R_M_Light on 4/14/09 - 11:40AM
first off....Michael Johnson?! wtf thats a huge reach the guy is a late 1st. also the Raiders have Zach Miller; he will be a stud! why are they drafting another TE?! they wont pass on barden in round 3 they absolutely love him and they wont draft 2 receivers; wheres the round 3/4 safety pick??
Posted by timb2 on 4/14/09 - 1:03PM
Thank you Jets!!! ..This is just for fun
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/14/09 - 3:47PM
It is for fun, but some mocks can certainly be more likely or more in depth and well thought out than others. If it was truely "just for fun" I could put Pat White to Detroit at pick one, or have the Titans taking Lesean McCoy in round one, but what sense would that make? And why would any one even do a mock if it wasn't realistic?
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/14/09 - 3:52PM
The feedback is the fun part for me. I love making the predictions and discussing it with others that are more knowledgable about a certain team then myself. Or maybe someone has seen a certain prospect more often than I have and has some new information to offer. That's the fun part, the debate of why a player would go to a team in a certain round. Figuring something out collectively or in a "census" format. It's the people on this site that can't take the criticism or get offended whenever some one proves one of their picks wrong that are the ones that claim "relax it's just for fun." Grant it sometimes people really should tone it down a bit, but I sure to love a good debate.
Posted by DenverBroncosfan_7 on 4/14/09 - 3:58PM
great denver draft! i love the mccoy pick, he would be a huge playmaker for denver. but i think mcdaniels will take a system qb in the later rds, like g harrell or c daniel. and 1 more thing, wells at 5? mike johnson at 7? crabtree 10?!?! maybin 23?? are you f***ing sh*tin me
Posted by Johanns21 on 4/15/09 - 11:02AM
I understand what you are saying about Al Davis, but lets give him a little credit. He isn't that big of an idiot. Yeah he values speed, but he probably won't take a tight end high because he's Al Davis. I could see him going after a defensive end and Johnson could be the guy, but they desperately need a wide receiver and if Crabtree or Maclin is available I would bet that is where they are probably thinking.
Posted by Johanns21 on 4/15/09 - 11:02AM
Oh and he did take Janakowski in the first round, but when has he taken a punter in the first round?
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/15/09 - 1:26PM
He has never taken a punter, a kicker was absurd enough.
Posted by eagleman992 on 4/15/09 - 5:08PM
Davis did take a punter in the 1st round i think his name was Rey Guy but he did take a punter in the 1st
Posted by Cowboysdraft09#1 on 4/17/09 - 3:45PM
Roy Miller for the cowboys in the third round?!? Dallas could probaly get him in the fith round. And we need a safety more than a g or dt. Also stephen hodge in the fourth that is such a reach
Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/18/09 - 6:28PM
I like Monroe and Wood for the Chiefs. I would like some more LBs and DEs for the Chiefs, but as long as they get those two players, it'll be a successful draft for them.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 8:06AM
Robiske's dad IS an NFL wide receivers coach, present tense. But that doesn't mean we will reach for him in round 1. I guess it is possible, and honestly I wouldnt mind it at all, but I think we'd take Britt or Nicks first.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 8:07AM
oh and why do we need 2 wide outs in the first 3 rounds? we dont.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 9:41AM
Jason Smith makes it to pick 9....yeah ok...
Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/19/09 - 11:29AM
You should switch picks 102 and 103. The Chiefs would take Cody Brown before Bradley Fletcher because they need a DE/OLB hybrid for their 3-4. And the Rams need help in that secondary, so it wouldn't be a bad choice for them.
Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/19/09 - 11:37AM
And the Eagles draft is a little odd. Why draft 3 linebackers (1 MLB, 2 OLB)? Maualuga could happen and Bradley could move back outside, but I do not see that as a need. I could see the Eagles taking Matthews to play outside if he falls that far. But the question comes to why you do not have them taking at least one big running back? That is where they need the most help. Everything else is good enough, but they need quality depth at running back and a back that is big to compliment Westbrook. And you also have them taking 2 centers, even though they already have a good center in Jackson. The O-line is set and if you are saying those picks are for depth, they need depth at OT.
Posted by chiefsfan27 on 4/19/09 - 2:12PM
never heard of the last 4 Chiefs picks. Passing on Cody Brown for who?
Posted by BraylonChamp#17 on 4/19/09 - 2:39PM
2 wide receivers for the browns?! they have so many other needs man. No tight end, give em a safety or runningback with that pick.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:12PM
Cheifsfan,I got you guys an ILB,but most these players are located under the position rankings.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:13PM
Axe got the eagles a RB
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:14PM
Braylonchamp ,got rid of the 3rd WR ,but had Pettigrew in the 2nd round to you guys already.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:16PM
Rich, Ravens WRs I don't think highly of.Mason is old and I really think Clayton has been a flop.
Posted by B_rent87 on 4/19/09 - 6:26PM
Great pick at 118. Smart man you are
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:28PM
OK Rich, if Sanchez goes 2nd,Monroe 3rd,Curry 4th where does Jason Smith go? Bengals who have no pass rushers.Raiders who Al Davis would grab a WR before OT and in Davis's mind Khalif Barnes was a free agent steal. Davis who believes Tommy Kelly was great and paid him big.Browns have Joe Thomas.Jags just signed Tra Thomas.So someone falls to 9.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 6:30PM
So what if Mason is old? His production has not declined at all and Clayton could be considered a flop for where he was drafted but has flourished under Flacco. We'll take one receiver, but definitely not too. Do you really think Mike Wallace would be an upgrade over any one of our receivers? Absolutely not, he's a return man at best and we already have a guy that runs faster than Wallace in Yamon Figurs. Hakeem Nicks could be the pick but probably won't produce in Baltimore for a few years.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:30PM
b-rent,Shockey had zero TDs and less than 500 yards receiving.Maybe Giants snookered the Saints
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 6:31PM
Rich you are such a homer!LOL!
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 7:31PM
Mason had 80 catches for over 1,000 yards last season...how am I being a homer? And Sanchez isn't going 2, Jason Smith is so that's where it leaves him. On the .01% chance that the Rams go in a different direction Smith probably wouldn't get past Seattle at 4, and no chance in hell he gets past Cincinnati at 6.
Posted by bengalrugby on 4/19/09 - 8:05PM
Bengals need a starting punter and FB. They also have heavy interest in Andre Smith and a lot of money tied up in DE already. Looking for a 3 down DE so Geathers and Odom can rotate in and stay fresh, as they were productive situational pass rushers in the past and need to get back to being situational to find success rushing the passer. Hodge is too one dimensional as a safety, since they believe in just safeties, not free and strong. Likely to draft a slower, physical corner to fill the safety gap. No DT's needed since the Bengals drafted 2 last year and like what they've seen so far, plus they just signed Tank Johnson. They also need a return man, since no one is currently reliable.
Posted by eagleman992 on 4/19/09 - 8:42PM
Eagles should draft Barden in round 3.the guy is big decent speed and nice hands he should do well in Philly.Wells and MJD are almost the same back but MJD is a small bowling ball.I dont get Jets pick they wont take him at 17 maybe in round 2 they can take him if avaliable but no need to reach there.I hate the Eagles pick you have to really explain yourself on that pick.As much as i love USC i dont want Rey in Philly.Williams in 1st also.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/19/09 - 8:53PM
Rashad Jennings FB Liberty? Dude...Jennings is a running back that could get drafted in round 2, probably won't get out of round 3.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 8:59PM
Eagleman,the eagles defense has not been the same since Jermiah Trotter left.His presence and blitzing from the middle was a real weapon.Bradley is a stiff and Gaither really is a WLB.You guys lost your emotional leader and fan favorite Brian Dawkins. Youtube "Introducing Rey Maualuga" and tell me Philly would not go crazy for this guy.Philly fans are upset about Dawkins and your team has to calm the fans down before a mutiny.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 9:09PM
Benglrugby,still switching around.Not sure on Bengals ends.Geather really seems to me he should be a reserve and Antwan Odom I know because I live near TN.Odom is a loafer and only turned it on when his contract was up.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 9:13PM
Rich,not sure on Jennings.Big back but combine was a 4.6.Small college and he ran a bunch already.Pro game is just faster.Reminds me of DJ Dozier,Curtis Enis,etc.Big back with the same stuff before the draft.He doesn't need to be that fast.They needed to be.
Posted by eagleman992 on 4/19/09 - 9:47PM
I know its been different since Trotter left he was like Dawkins hard to replace.But last year the LBs did really good and if you rewatch games Bradly is uprising.He is a good blitzer and not bad at covering.He can stop the run and he has the potential of becoming a great LB.Also Gaither doesnt start anymore its Akeem Jordan who is an animal.This guy is fast and he is not a big guy but can definatly deliver a hit.And at the same time do you think the Eagles are going to address LB 1st.I dont thats not until 5th round at least.
Posted by jasonpeters71 on 4/19/09 - 9:51PM
There is no way the Bills pass up Pettigrew for Cook and dont get Eric Wood
Posted by cat9 on 4/19/09 - 9:55PM
timb2, your working real hard at this. Do you care what the Lions want. I wont be the one to tell you. I'll just point you in the right direction. If you want. Again, I'm not offering my opinion, just some reading material and you can take it for what it's worth.
Posted by Cheeba on 4/19/09 - 10:12PM
u talk about the titans WRs bein slow but u have em drafting derrick williams instead of harvin????!! makes no sense to me
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 11:15PM
Eagleman,would you really rather have Maualuga or Bradley?Bradley is decent,but Maualuga could be All-Pro.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 11:18PM
Cat,I know Lions have lots of needs.Their defense was last againist the rush.They hate their MLBs.No real sure 2nd WR.OT &OGs & C's.A strong safety.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 11:20PM
Cheeba,Derrick Williams was sick during the combine.He ran a 4.37 on his pro day.Harvin ran a 4.41 and also has the drug problem over his head.Jeff Fisher will not have anymore problem children after Pacman.That is why GM Floyd Reese was fired.
Posted by timb2 on 4/19/09 - 11:22PM
Cook vs Pettigrew is just an opinion and different view.I wouldn't pass on a TE running 4.4s
Posted by Cheeba on 4/19/09 - 11:30PM
it looks to me like u put too much emphazis on the combine..look at the tape!! put pads on em and i guarantee u harvin is faster!!
Posted by Cheeba on 4/19/09 - 11:32PM
and knowshon, 45th??
Posted by Cheeba on 4/19/09 - 11:36PM
if the Chiefs draft Monroe they would not move Albert to guard!!! That would be ridiculous!..They both would play OT
Posted by eagleman992 on 4/19/09 - 11:57PM
Maualuga isnt established yet we dont know if he will be god or bad.Bradley is already a good player.thats all im saying he isnt established as a NFL player thats spectaculor
Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/20/09 - 12:03AM
Chiefs still need defense. Rushing LBs and 3-4 DEs. And possibly one ILB.
Posted by timb2 on 4/20/09 - 1:25AM
The Chiefs have Damen McIntosh at RT.Check the database on Tyrone McKenzie and Rhyan Anderson and maybe they can do for OLB & DE.
Posted by timb2 on 4/20/09 - 1:28AM
Knowshown can't break a 4.6 and he has nice moves but pros will eat him up.
Posted by timb2 on 4/20/09 - 1:29AM
Harvin is a druggie!!!!! Why would anyone want to put up with his nonsense?
Posted by theaxeeffect4311 on 4/20/09 - 2:03AM
Damion McIntosh's nickname is Sackintosh. He is slow and does not block. Trust me timb2, he'll be replaced this season. Goff was picked up in the off-season and he'll be starting at RG and Albert would be moved to RT.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/20/09 - 10:00AM
So you think Willis, Manny Lawson who has been a complete bust, and an unproven rokie in Brian Cushing will be the best LB core in the NFL? Don't know about that one champ...
Posted by timb2 on 4/20/09 - 1:33PM
I meant youthful group of LBs with talent to be the best.My mistake.
Posted by RichEisenIsGod on 4/21/09 - 12:50PM
yeah well i guess theyd have an upside, I think Cush is great but I think all the questions about steroids and can he play 3 downs may drop him a bit to the mid-teens or even to NE at 23. Still think there's no chance in hell for Sanchez, Wells, and Johnson to go that high.
Posted by timb2 on 4/21/09 - 1:27PM
Rich,going to be fun see what happens.
Posted by Cheeba on 4/21/09 - 2:08PM
JASON SMITH AT 9?????????????
Posted by Johanns21 on 4/21/09 - 2:58PM
Robiskie at 17? I know many may feel is is very polished, but still. Ahead of Hakeem Nicks and Darius Heyward-Bey. Derek Williams in the first round? Let alone to the Titans who don't like taking WR's in the first round? I don't know dude.
Posted by Johanns21 on 4/21/09 - 2:59PM
Bears taking a TE when they already have Greg Olsen, Desmond Clark, Kellen Davis, and Fontell Mines.
Posted by B_rent87 on 11/2/09 - 1:54PM
If Denver was able to get this draft I would have been very happy